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Mike Dennis Member From: Stevens Point WI. |
![]() Can The Allman Brothers Survive without Dicky Betts? More then likely the band will successfully trudge on, with some of the Betts material left in the repertoire. Last year it was rumored that Dicky Betts was let go from the Allman Brothers Band due to substance abuse. More then likely it was a political decision brought out over who is or was taking control of the band. A recent performance of the group on Austin City Limits revealed Dicky to be in topnotch performance with strong singing and guitar playing abilities and he appeared to be very much sober. (It was Greg Allman who looked as if he were still numb in the face, and a few of the other members should have politely sucked in their very large beer guts) Dicky pulled off some amazing guitar solos on the Austin City Limits performance. Maybe the high of finally getting to the show replaced that old competitive edge he had with Duane. Nonetheless, he looked and sounded very good. Hit songs like “Ramblin’ Man” sounded as fresh today as when first recorded. It can be said that The Allman Brothers Band were often imitated but never duplicated. Simply put, they developed the “Southern Rock” sound and were most likely THE influence for a string of 1970’s southern rock bands that followed. Bands such as Marshall Tucker, Lynard Skinard, Outlaws, Grinderswitch, Molly Hatchet and others who rambled down that southern pike. But where The Allman Brothers leaves the rest of them in the dust was in the strong song writing talents of both Greg Allman and Dicky Betts mixed with the musician skills of other members in the band, including some of the early dual guitar arrangements by the legendary Duane Allman. It was clear from the beginning that this was no ordinary rock band. Dicky Betts was a pioneer in developing this new sound and was also a major voice in The Allman Brothers Band. Songs like “Ramblin’ Man,” “Blue Skies,” and “ Lousiana Lou and Three Card Monty John” have left their mark on the American music scene. The lyrics reveal Betts' talents as a major story teller of the southern experience. His guitar instrumentals “In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed,” “ Jessica” and “High Falls” go on to reveal the best of his performing and songwriting talents... taking rock music to even further heights That sound can best be heard on his 1974 solo release “Highway Call”, which features John Hughey on the pedal steel guitar, Chuck Leavell on keyboards and Vassar Clements on fiddle. It was this recording that set him apart from The Allman Brothers Band revealing his own unique talents with country music infleunces. Simply put… it’s the direction I often wish Nashville had taken. It's also the direction I wish Richard himself would have put more energies into. Richard Betts has stood the test of time with a unique style all his own. |
John Steele Member From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada |
![]() I don't like to hang crepe, but since the question was asked.... I read an item in the paper about Dicky Betts being the subject of spousal abuse charges. I'm sure that figures into the equation. -John |
Pat Burns Member From: Branchville, N.J. USA |
![]() ...Mike, if you don't mind my saying so, that sounds kind of like it was quoted from a review somewhere... |
Jeff A. Smith Member From: Angola,Ind. U.S.A. |
![]() Nice piece, Mike. I noticed you included mention of a couple of songs from the "Win Lose or Draw" album, which a lot of people reject. I personally feel that Betts' lead and slide work on "Can't Lose What You Never Had" rates with anything in the band's history. It's one of my favorite songs of all time. Gregg sang his rear off, too. The way his playing and that of the band's play off each other and move as one in that song always deeply moves me when I listen to it. Yes, he has some personal demons to contend with. I guess I'll be happy If I don't pick up a newspaper within the next few years and read that he's died. I'd love to hear more great things from him musically, but I'll settle for knowing he's still around. |
Chris Walke Member From: St Charles, IL |
![]() I never owned any Allman Bros albums other than Eat a Peach. I've heard several of their albums, all their big hits on the radio, and always thought they were one of rock's greatest bands...now why aren't they represented in my collection? Don't know. What I DO know is that listening to "blue sky" was what taught me how to play a major scale-based solo on guitar. Up until then, all I knew was the pentatonic minor. That song, and "Melissa" helped to change my playing from typical, gerneric blues-influenced classic rock style to a country-inflected rock. Thanks to Betts' playing doors opened up for me, and suddenly there were more than five notes in my solos. Probably a big relief to anyone that ever listened to me play before this revelation. |
Mike Perlowin Member From: Los Angeles CA |
![]() quote: I recommend "Live at the Fillmore East" if you like the band's guitar work. It's mostly instrumental, and both Dicky nor Duane are playing their asses off. |
Jeff A. Smith Member From: Angola,Ind. U.S.A. |
![]() Yes, by all means get "Live At the Fillmore" if you've never heard it. One of rock music's greatest albums. I think that the live material on Eat A Peach was recorded around the same time, perhaps on the same dates. Although Dickey grew individually as a guitarist and musician after Duane's death, there really is a special fire that the band had when Duane was alive. Also, I read that the pickups on Betts' Les Paul went out at a certain time after they recorded the live records, and he lamented not being able to recapture that special tone he had on those albums. I think he found something unique and his own later, but the earlier sound is really special also. I always wondered how much of their music was structured, and how much was spontaneous. If one listens to the "Ludlow Garage" collection, it's possible to see an earlier stage of many of the tunes and solos that show up on "Live At The Fillmore" and "Eat A Peach" in more refined form. Mike D., I'm curious about The Austin City Limits show you saw. I saw one maybe a year and a half or two years ago that had Warren Haynes on it. Is that the one, or did you see one that had Derek Trucks on guitar? If so, I haven't seen that yet. |
Geoff Brown Member From: Nashvegas |
![]() Dickey has certainly carved out his place among the finer musicians of our time. And like so many artists, it is unfortunate that a good portion of his career has been tainted by the abuse of alcohol, and to a lesser degree, other drugs. Sadly, he does have a history of spousal abuse as well. None of this is any secret, although I've never read or heard any of his comments regarding these issues. The live tracks on Eat A Peach are from the the Fillmore shows that produced the amazing Fillmore East lp. Win, Lose or Draw is probably their worst album. Recorded in bits and pieces, in different places. I don't believe the whole band was present for any of the recordings, and it shows. The band was immersed in their abusive ways. Betts' playing is terrible in my opinion...lackluster and uninspired. Some of the songs are good... they just weren't played very well. I have heard the ABB perform High Falls and Can't Lose What You Never Had live w/ Dickey, and those versions bore no resemblence to their lame LP tracks. Betts' dismissal from the ABB was the result of a rift that developed between himself and Butch Trucks, over management of the band's affairs. It's probably safe to say that Dickey's history was a factor as well. I think it's interesting to note that this band has always been a volatile bunch. Always lots of bickering and infighting about songs,arrangements,business,and so on. But the strong concept of family has always held them together. I read an interview with Gregg Allman a year ago. He noted that the ABB was in the "blood" of all it's members, and as much as they all sometimes hated the idea of getting together and working on songs, it was just something that they couldn't do without. The end result made it all worthwhile for them. Imitated, but never duplicated...absolutely. I have always felt uncomfortable catagorizing the ABB as a "southern rock" band, although I guess that the tag is pretty much unavoidable. To me, they (particularly the original band) bear little resemblence to the other bands that followed them. They were original. No arguement that their songwriting and playing chops were superior. But I think it was their roots that gave them such a distinctive sound.Here was a group of guys who were as much at home listening to Roland Kirk, Coltrane or Miles Davis as they were listening to Floyd Miles, T-bone Walker or Tampa Red. That's a pretty interesting group of influences. Ludlow Garage is great. I prefer that version of Mountain Jam to that of EAP. Just some really cool things going on on that record. Certainly the songs required arranging, but they were certainly able to step out and do whatever, whenever. Playing the Fillmore East until sun-up...I wish I could have been there for that ![]() The Fillmore Concerts is an excellent 2-cd set of the famous concert, but contains additional material from a couple of other Fillmore East shows from around the same time. The remixing by John Loudermilk is superb, and this represents the best available recording of the ABB's Fillmore shows. The cover is similar to the Live At Fillmore East LP/CD, but it is an alternate take photo, and is in color. |
Jeff A. Smith Member From: Angola,Ind. U.S.A. |
![]() A lot of what makes Betts an original stylist, in my opinion, has less to do with obvious emotional expression, and more to do with form and structure. The emotion is there, but it is behind a very pronounced compositional element. That is the primary thing I find so compelling about his work on "Can't Lose What You Never Had," and many other songs. Although the time when Chuck Leavell and Lamar Williams were in the band may not have been as intense and firey as the Duane period, I very much appreciate the many subtle aspects that their musicianship brought to the band, and the direction that Betts' playing took as a result. The piano is a very different instrument than the guitar, and its preferred avenues of expression in many ways exemplifies the difference between the Duane and Chuck periods of the band. I think the structural elements of Dickey Betts' playing were encouraged during this period, as they resonated with similar musical tendencies in Leavell and Williams. For the most part, I agree that "Win Lose or Draw" wasn't one of the band's best works, but my own musical leanings have found some gems on it, nevertheless. My personal subjective list of their albums would rate the later "Brothers of the Road" at the bottom, but probably we were focusing on the period before their first disbanding. I do think that for Betts as an individual, the post-Duane pre-first breakup period was A creative peak of sorts. To appreciate this, one would have to judge according to standards that differ from those that describe the strengths of the Duane period. But when I say that this time was "A" creative peak, I don't mean to say that it was "THE" creative peak. I myself would hesitate to put someone in a box like that. I guess Dickey is now about 57. I hope we will have some good new stuff of his to talk about one day soon. [This message was edited by Jeff A. Smith on 18 August 2001 at 12:20 PM.] |
Bill Hatcher Member From: Atlanta Ga. USA |
![]() Saw the original band with Duane in 1969. Saw what was left of the the band in 1999. No Duane, no Allman Brothers magic. D. Betts needed Duane REAL bad. Duane's playing forced him to play better. It was a nice balance. |
Richard Sinkler Member From: Fremont, California |
![]() NO! To me, Betts was the Allman Bros. band after Duane died. |
HowardR Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y. |
![]() I'll agree with Bill on this one. I too saw the original Allman Brothers and thereafter had seen them throughout the years. Just never the same without Duane. Although Dickey Betts did develope his own style and wrote some great songs, I find his lead work repetative. To answer the question of this topic, can they survive without Betts? I considered them a done deal a long time ago. [This message was edited by HowardR on 15 September 2001 at 09:33 PM.] |
Glenn Suchan Member From: Austin, Texas |
![]() Just a little note: Dicky Betts' album "Highway Call" is now available on CD and I highly recommend it (I have both vinyl and CD copies of it). "Highway Call" could be described as "The Allman Bros. go country". Check out the fine jam on the toon called "Hand Picked"...14 minutes of pure bliss. Keep on pickin'! |
Richard Sinkler Member From: Fremont, California |
![]() Highway Call... John Hughey justa kickin' butt! ![]() |
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