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RC Antolina
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From: Newnan, Georgia, USA

posted 26 November 2001 09:38 AM     profile     
I don't believe all banjo players have no brains. Rude, inconsiderate, ego driven, step all over the band, ignore the fact there's a singer...? yes to all the above. I often wonder if they ever experiment with distance from the mic. I recently went to a Bluegrass event. Two things were apparent 1)After the 2nd set all the breaks sounded the same regardless of the song. 2) I never did hear the guitar or dobros. Reminds me of Mexican music where they really only have three songs. They just change keys.

Best way to tune a banjo?.....wire cutters

kyle reid
Member

From: Butte,Mt.usa

posted 26 November 2001 12:38 PM     profile     
R.C.! Youv'e got it all right! but unfortunately, there's some on here that must not like steel enough, to see the Forest for the Trees, Go figure?
Dave Burr
Member

From: Tyler, TX

posted 26 November 2001 01:19 PM     profile     
Not all b@njo players fall into this category... Some know when to lay back. And as far as all breaks sounding the same, have you ever listened to Bela Fleck?

Respectfully,
Dave Burr

Howard Parker
Member

From: Clarksburg,MD USA

posted 26 November 2001 02:05 PM     profile     
A wise man once said
quote:
80% of everything (music) is crap
.

Maybe you should educate yourself by listening to good (20%) bluegrass before slamming it.

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Howard Parker
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www.resoguit.com
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Gary Lee Gimble
Member

From: Gaithersburg, Maryland

posted 26 November 2001 05:04 PM     profile     
RC, I do believe you have ingested way too many peanuts and you are missing out on a lot of really good music, bluegrass included. Open up your ears and don't make a conclusion after listening to what sounded like a poor acoustic show. I don't suspect you will increase your acoustic music CD inventory nor do I feel you will be attending many more bluegrass shows. Bottom line, there are many banjo pickers that don't make all the "breaks sound the same." Many banjo pickers are able to articulate simplicity with dynamics and if your ear is capable of understanding music, you might find yourself sitting on the edge of your seat given the right circumstances. Unless of course you can do a better job pickin the old five yo' self!

Gary Lee..............the other banjo-steel picker

kyle reid
Member

From: Butte,Mt.usa

posted 26 November 2001 05:32 PM     profile     
RC! dont listen to these guys! the only time I listened to what they listen to, & was on the edge of my seat, was in the mens room! Also, todays music is 90% crap!
Donny Hinson
Member

From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.

posted 26 November 2001 08:12 PM     profile     
Many years ago, I tried to play one, but then I figured it was a good idea to adapt some of those techniques to pedal steel. That's what got me the fame I have today!

'Course, when I did have a b@nj0, somebody like Carl Sauceman would always come along and ruin my day.

Andy Volk
Member

From: Boston, MA

posted 26 November 2001 08:38 PM     profile     
Bill Keith ... Tony Trishca ... Bela Fleck ... Alison Brown ... nobody's going to convince me these folks aren't master musicians.
Myron Labelle
unregistered
posted 27 November 2001 06:53 AM           
Earl Scruggs who? As a b@njo once in a while picker I have heard some pedal steel players that make banjos sound great. In fact some of their Steels sounded like b@njos.Americas only truly invented instrument. Camptown races do da do da....

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Larry Miller
Member

From: Gladeville,TN.USA

posted 27 November 2001 07:05 AM     profile     
quote:
b@njos.Americas
only truly invented instrument.

Banjos were invented in Africa!!
Bill Crook
Member

From: Goodlettsville, TN , Spending my kid's inheritance

posted 27 November 2001 07:50 AM     profile     
I like to hear one ever now and then,but after playing a Bluegrass gig a time or two, I have figured out that I really don't wish to play another one.

My problem is:
After the second number,all of em' start sounding alike. Thats when I begin to let my mind wonder. The playing is automatic. I think of places and other things I could be doing. Most of the time, I feel that Im' only there to fill up the stage area. In most cases, I don't even have the volumne pedal on. In fact,on one gig,my amp wasen't even turned on during the first set. Nobody ever noticed. I play em' because the moneys there..... and I don't have to worry about train-wrecks.

John Macy
Member

From: Denver, CO USA

posted 27 November 2001 09:59 AM     profile     
My bank president is a world class banjo player. Smart, nice guy, and huge steel fan.

How about Bill Keith--master on the banjo, and played some seriously good steel on a lot of records.

kyle reid
Member

From: Butte,Mt.usa

posted 27 November 2001 11:31 AM     profile     
Larry! Banjo's were invented in Africa? That explains the whole damn problem
John Steele
Member

From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada

posted 27 November 2001 12:02 PM     profile     
I think the invention of the banjo as we know it is generally credited to Joel Sweeney, an American.
Some people just don't like them. Lots do. As far as the above-mentioned annoying player goes, I'd say he's just an obnoxious player, who happened to choose the banjo. There's lots of obnoxious players out there who don't play banjo too. Maybe you should just be thankful he didn't choose a Stratocaster with a Marshall stack....
-John
p.s. You can always put a clothespin on his bridge. That'll fix him!
Larry Miller
Member

From: Gladeville,TN.USA

posted 27 November 2001 12:18 PM     profile     
The origins of the banjo www.worldartswest.org/plm/guide2001/locator/instruments.html

[This message was edited by Larry Miller on 27 November 2001 at 12:19 PM.]

Gary Lee Gimble
Member

From: Gaithersburg, Maryland

posted 27 November 2001 01:21 PM     profile     
Sweeney added the fifth string to the banjo.

Kyle, you might execute a courtesy flush while you're on the edge of THE seat. The percussion effect might enhance your moment of music appreciation.
Gary Lee

Donny Hinson
Member

From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.

posted 27 November 2001 05:15 PM     profile     
I just read that site about the origin of the banjo...fiberglass heads?

Never heard of 'em.

kyle reid
Member

From: Butte,Mt.usa

posted 27 November 2001 11:01 PM     profile     
Gary Lee! My musical appreciation was totally enhanced, many years ago by Pedal Steel! Nothing else comes close!
Larry Miller
Member

From: Gladeville,TN.USA

posted 28 November 2001 04:54 AM     profile     
Buck Trent sure could make his 5-string electric banjo w/scruggs tuners sound like a pedal steel. Listen to Dolly and Porter's Greatest Hits, he's all over it!
CHIP FOSSA
Member

From: Monson, MA 01057 U.S.A.

posted 28 November 2001 06:31 AM     profile     
I'm with you, John Macy. Bill Keith....class-one-banjo-man. And also, did some unforgettable stints on pedal steel with the likes of Jonathan Edwards...."MY HOME AIN'T IN THE HALL OF FAME"...."GO AND HAVE YOURSELF A GOODTIME FOR ME"....and there's another tune on these 2 albums, can't think of the name right now, but the steel break is just super.....uptempo, and clean-as-a-whistle....sounds almost like a straight 6-string electric, but when you really listen, you know it's the steel.

And what about the DILLARDS???? This stuff is not Banjo 101. Give me a break, or at least, a breakdown.

ChipsAhoy

[This message was edited by CHIP FOSSA on 28 November 2001 at 06:34 AM.]

Chris Walke
Member

From: St Charles, IL

posted 28 November 2001 03:40 PM     profile     
Danny Barnes...listen to Danny Barnes, the Bad Livers, Thee Old Codgers, soundtrack to "the Newton Boys"...

THAT'S banjo pickin'! If'n Danny's good enough to grace Bill Frisell's stage, he's good enough for me.

then again, my favorite banjo parts are on Tom Waits' albums. "gun street girl" from Raindogs, "murder in the red barn" from Bone Machine.

Mike Perlowin
Member

From: Los Angeles CA

posted 29 November 2001 12:29 AM     profile     
Everybody here has been talking about Bluegrass, which personally I'm not all that into.

But there are other kinds of banjo music. On of my favorite records is an anthology called "Melodic Clawhammer Banjo" on Kicking Mule records. (I don;t know if it's available on CD or not.)

There is also a tradition of ragtime banjo, and classial banjo, played with gut or nylon strings.

last year I sae a banjo bass, and I really liked the sound it made.

ESnow
Member

From: Berryville AR USA

posted 29 November 2001 02:13 AM     profile     
I have been working at a country music theater in Eureka Springs, Ar.the last 2 seasons. Our lead guitar player Steve Bush was the national champion banjo player at the Winnfield, Ks. bluegrass festival in 1991. He gets more applause on banjo night after night than any other instrument on stage. The public sure like 'em.
Peter Dollard
Member

From:

posted 08 December 2001 11:31 AM     profile     
I just received my reissue of the Dillards first two albums(Backporch Bluegrass and Live Almost).I challenge anyone not to atleast respect the tremendous sound Doug Dillard gets out of his banjo...it is unbelievable...dittos also to Bill Keith...if you still hate Bluegrass after listening to Bill play Arkansas Traveller or NOLA you just don't like music...Peter
Gary Lee Gimble
Member

From: Gaithersburg, Maryland

posted 08 December 2001 01:31 PM     profile     
For all you die hard steel pickers, you should know that Bobby Thomson picks the snot out of NOLA too! Keith wasn't the only person to initiate the unlimited potential of the banjo. I know you all were just dying to hear that too!
Gary Lee
John Steele
Member

From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada

posted 09 December 2001 02:43 PM     profile     
This monday night I have a session on steel at a nearby studio.
I was hired partly because steel players are scarce around here, and partly because they needed someone who could double on banjo.
I just had to say that...
I'll try to refrain from being obnoxious at the session...
-John
CHIP FOSSA
Member

From: Monson, MA 01057 U.S.A.

posted 10 December 2001 03:57 PM     profile     
Bill Keith is almost singlehandedly credited with what's become known as the 'melodic'
approach to 5-string b@njo. The melody is
actually picked out, where up until BK, all the great bluegrass banjo pickers, while playing the h&$%! out of the thang, played around the melody.
Bill Keith's 'melodic style' was a major breakthrough in b@njology.

ChipsAhoy

Jason Odd
Member

From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

posted 10 December 2001 07:14 PM     profile     
I'm a fan of Bobby Thompson, Bill Keith, Doug Dillard and Earl Scruggs, ooh, not forgetting Tony Trishka either.
Larry Lenhart
Member

From: Ponca City, Oklahoma

posted 10 December 2001 08:53 PM     profile     
John Steele, you will not be obnoxious at the session, because you have good musical taste ! And that is the point, it is the musician, not the instrument, that determines "good" music.

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