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Ed Miller Jr Member From: Coldwater,Mi USA |
posted 24 January 2002 07:01 PM
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Any body got one? I shopping for an upgrade to my hipshot unit and would like to see what they look like. Also how do you get ahold of one? Ed |
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G Strout Member From: Santa Fe,NM & Nashville ,TN |
posted 25 January 2002 07:29 AM
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Ed, give this a try....don't know if they have web site. Glaser String Bender |
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Joey Ace Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada |
posted 25 January 2002 07:53 AM
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I'm sure you can find info over at www.tdpri.com I like my Parsons-White. The Glaser unit has a less obtrusive route (front under the pickguard) and the pull is on the neck-plate. The P-W has the pull on the strap button. ------------------ |
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Jerry Hayes Member From: Virginia Beach, Va. |
posted 25 January 2002 08:13 AM
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Hello Ed, Having played a Glaser bender and having owned two Telecasters with Parsons/White Benders and having used benders for about 28 years now, Trust Me!!! The Glaser is not an upgrade. If you're only thinking about the appearance of the guitar then a Glaser or a P/W is the way to go. If you're thinking about the music you can make, ease of operation, and cost per unit you can't beat the HipShot. With the HS you're only working with the tension of the B-string and not pulling against a spring so what you feel is what you get. A lot of other Bending devices are uneven tension the farther you push the thing. With the HipShot it's easy to do more subtle bends as in 1/2 tone stuff and all. Also you can hit a harmonic without even touching the neck and still bend it with the HipShot. On my Gibson guitar I use a Bigsby Palm Pedal which I think is better than the "Push Down the Neck" benders. I only thing I don't like about the HipShot is the fact that you've got to assemble it but that's a minimal thing. In closing, like I said before "If it's appearance go for it, if you're really into music STAY WITH THE HIPSHOT" The next time you have a Glaser or P/W in your hands just hold a simple BAR Chord and try to bend the 2nd string without your thumb hanging over the top. ------------------ [This message was edited by Jerry Hayes on 25 January 2002 at 08:15 AM.] |
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D Schubert Member From: Columbia, MO, USA |
posted 25 January 2002 01:44 PM
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I used a Hipshot for 4-5 years, before I got a Tele with a Parsons-White bender. Now I have two. The Hipshot is neat, non-invasive and precise -- but the lack of spring resistance always felt wrong to me -- too easy to play licks that sounded like "sproing!" YMMV B-benders are discussed frequently on the Teledcaster Discussion page (www.tdpri.com) and almost constantly on the Clarence White Forum (www.cwf.com). I've never played a Glaser, but some frequent comments I've seen regarding these (1) they are top-notch professional grade equipment, but (2) your guitar will be in the shop 6-12 months or more to get one installed, because he's so busy, and (3) the Glaser has a shorter pull than a P/W which some players find less musical and less steely-sounding. Other users like the short stroke and quicker pull -- if you like Jimmy Olander's sound more than Clarence White's then you would probably gravitate to the Glaser. Many P/W owners are having their guitars retro-fitted with an even longer-stroke mechanism (1.25" versus 0.75") which is closer to the action on Clarence White's old Tele -- the one that Marty Stuart plays now. The Parsons-Green one-piece assemblies that Fender puts in their production (non-custom-shop) guitars are another option -- these can be retrofitted into your guitar as well. Other bender resources -- both for parts and installation: Stringpull Guitar Shop -- www.stringpull.com Gene Parsons -- www.stringbender.com
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Brandon Roper Member From: Carrollton, TX, USA |
posted 25 January 2002 01:44 PM
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Hey Gentlemen, Do Ya know of any site or person I could talk to about gettin those "pedal steel-esque" licks from a tele? I know there has to a be a pretty good number of common licks or bends that give you a steel-type sound. The only one that I know of currently is (choose any higher end fret-10th to 15th) fret the 1st and 2nd string on the same fret, the third string is fretted one fret down (towards the head) and strike all three strings while slowly bending the third string upwards.Thanks! -Brandon |
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Joey Ace Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada |
posted 25 January 2002 06:32 PM
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Brandon, A favorite lick of mine is a Major Chord to a Seventh. Example: Finger (Don't Play) a D7 in the first position. Now play that D chord. Slowly realse the Bender and it moves to D7. Use this same position up the neck. |
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Ken Lang Member From: Simi Valley, Ca |
posted 25 January 2002 06:44 PM
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Double post. (sigh) [This message was edited by Ken Lang on 25 January 2002 at 07:02 PM.] |
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Ken Lang Member From: Simi Valley, Ca |
posted 25 January 2002 07:00 PM
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I used a hip shot for a while, the unit that could work two strings at once, as well as a lever to drop the lower E to D. I could never get used to the lever that was activated by the hip, so I made two palm levers for my hand. Some of it was great fun as I could push one lever down ahead of picking the strings, pick, and then let it up as I was pushing the other lever down. One note raising and one note lowering at the same time while including a third string that had no voice movement. Unfortunately my G&L tele had no rollers on the bridge where the strings stretched, and I soon wore groves in it, so I took the hipshot off. Al Bruno let me check out his bridge and I measured it with the intent of making one similar, but never got around to doing it. Probably just as well as these days I get confused just sittin' in a chair and chewing gum. Still, as a glutton for punishment and wanting the real thing, I bought an MSA. Now I can sit, chew gum, move both legs and ankles and arms and fingers all at the same time. I'm getting near old enough to be put out to pasture, but I may make the funny farm first. |
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Boomer Member From: Brentwood, TN USA |
posted 26 January 2002 06:07 AM
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As many of you are no doubt aware, I'm partial to the Bigsby Palm Pedal for a variety of reasons, one of which is obvious: operation whilst playing slide. Best, Boomer |
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Jerry Hayes Member From: Virginia Beach, Va. |
posted 29 January 2002 05:38 PM
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Hey Boomer, I'll have to agree with you! The Bigsby Palm Pedal is absolutely the best in the world for playing slide guitar. The HipShot works OK for that but with the movement of the neck a person would have to be a little careful not to fret out if you had low action like I use. Someone mentioned about wearing grooves in the bridge saddles. I've used benders since the early 70's and I've never worn a groove in any bridge. I always use some graphite powder on the bridge saddle and nut slot everytime I change strings. My Gibson has a Tune-a-matic bridge with graphite inserts which work great. I think it'd be next to impossible to play any slide with a Glaser or Parsons/White. ------------------ |
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Tim Harr Member From: East Peoria, Illinois |
posted 01 February 2002 08:32 AM
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I am looking for a Bigsby Palm Pedal to use as a "G" bender. I already have a B bender-- Parsons White which I have used for about 13 years...
Let me know if anyone has one for sale or horse trading... Thanks! Tim |
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db Member From: Bethlehem, PA 18015 USA |
posted 04 February 2005 08:26 PM
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Hey Tim, Sorry for the delayed response. A single arm setup is pretty cheep. Contact me directly@ db@bigsbypalmpedal.com ------------------ |
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John McGann Member From: Boston, Massachusetts, USA |
posted 05 February 2005 04:47 AM
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When I put a Hipshot (G palm pedal + B bender) on my Tele (10 years ago) it was not totally non-invasive- you had to notch down into the bridge plate to get the string to run down to the mechanism- so if you have a vintage Tele, you should get a replacement bridge plate and use that so as not to mess up your value. I took mine off after awhile, partly because it made the Tele look like it had braces on it's teeth... the unit worked great, but I found it to be a "tone sink" on the G and B strings and the overall tone of the guitar improved when I took it off. Always some kinda tradeoff...I prefer the strings-through-body tone as Leo intended it ------------------ [This message was edited by Leo Fender on 05 February 2005 at 04:48 AM.] [This message was edited by John McGann on 05 February 2005 at 04:53 AM.] |
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Michael Breid Member From: Eureka Springs, Arkansas, USA |
posted 15 February 2005 08:03 PM
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I have the Hip Shot on my Tele and really like it. I secured the plate on top of the guitar with two screws for stability. Having the Hip Shot anchored by the end pin makes it too flimsy. I put Tele Graph-Tech saddles on the B and G strings. I also inlays pieces of Graph-Tech material in the nut for the B and G strings. Now, Stew-Mac sells the roller saddles. I made some roller saddles once using some nickel plated brass beads I got at a craft shop. The only problem was I had to substitute the bridge intonation screws with longer ones to make them be the correct intonation. Also I substituted longer tension springs. I finally put in the Graph-Tech which are on there now. Grooves do wear in them of course. I will probably go to the roller saddles, but since I started playing steel I'm not too interested in messing with it. I play a stock Tele and the Hip Shot Tele stays in the case. The steel is harder to play sure, but in the long run it's worth it. The steel sound is hard to beat. |
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Ken Lang Member From: Simi Valley, Ca |
posted 25 February 2005 06:37 PM
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I have just emailed Stew-Mac for recommendations on which roller bridge and nut to install the Hipshot back on my G&L tele, as well as any info they have that might help. I never where to find roller bridges but thanks to Michael I do now. Thanks Mike. It will be interesting to see how it all rolls out. |
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