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Jason Powers
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From: Muncie, IN

posted 03 June 2002 01:05 PM     profile     
Sorry for all the rambling, but I just happened to think of all this while sitting at the computer. Who are some other REAL COUNTRY singers I should think about looking into (deep catalog) Keep in mind I LOVE honky tonk and especially SHUFFLES. Just wanted some opinions. Jason
P.S. Just wanted to pubicly apologize(again) for all the rambling, but as I have found out the forum is the best place to ASK if you don't know. I'm only 24, and I am proud to love this kind of music!!!
Bill Terry
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From: Bastrop, TX, USA

posted 03 June 2002 01:35 PM     profile     
http://www.kevindenney.com/music.htm

Not sure if this is obscure, but check out Cadillac Tears, shuffle deluxe...Mike Johnson on steel BTW.

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David Pennybaker
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From: Conroe, TX USA

posted 03 June 2002 02:25 PM     profile     
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/215/davin_james.html

Some real honkey-tonk stuff.

Be sure to listen to:

"Head Over Heels"

"Things Ain't Like They Used To Be"

"Damned Ol' Guitar"

"Seat Of My Pants"

"Nowhere Lounge"

"Magnolia"

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Donny Hinson
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From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.

posted 03 June 2002 04:25 PM     profile     
I hope you've heard some stuff by Justin Trevino, Curtis Potter, and Tony Booth.

That's what I call Country!

Honky-tonk? Nobody did it better than Gary Stewart.

[This message was edited by Donny Hinson on 03 June 2002 at 04:27 PM.]

Jeff Evans
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From: Fort Worth (not that other place 30 miles east)

posted 03 June 2002 07:06 PM     profile     
Jim Snider and Jake Hooker...although Jake is starting to get almost famous.

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Jussi Huhtakangas
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From: Helsinki, Finland

posted 04 June 2002 12:34 AM     profile     
Get Roger Wallace cd's!!
Chris Forbes
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From: Beltsville, MD, USA

posted 04 June 2002 03:49 AM     profile     
Johnny Bush
Smiley Roberts
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From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075

posted 04 June 2002 05:56 AM     profile     
Dugg Collins,"Sounds Like Texas". Bill "Blue" Mack wrote the liner notes. Randy Reinhardt & Jim Loessberg played steel on it. Jim also produced it. It was recorded,& engineered by Justin Treviño,at his studio in Tx. Justin also played rhythm guitar on it. Finally,Dugg sang his butt off!! This is REAL Texas music!
( startexrecords@aol.com )

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Craig A Davidson
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From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA

posted 04 June 2002 08:07 AM     profile     
Dale Watson

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Dave Van Allen
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From: Doylestown, PA , US , Earth

posted 04 June 2002 08:49 AM     profile     
If you are talking CURRENT artists working in the "real country" mode you have gotten many fine suggestions...

I am wondering though from your posting if you are looking to delve "deep catalog" into the heyday of Honky Tonk music, for "obscure" artists from the 50's 60's??
Is this the case?
if so, I am sure there will be MANY more suggestions

Jason Powers
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From: Muncie, IN

posted 04 June 2002 10:02 AM     profile     
Hi Dave,
Yes, by the definition of "deep catalog" I was looking more towards 50's-60's early 70's stuff. Although, the suggestions for the new REAL COUNTRY are good and I will be looking into some of those too, but really what I was aiming at was 50's-70's. I guess I should have been clearer about that when I posted. My fault!!! Jason
Johan Jansen
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From: Europe

posted 04 June 2002 02:57 PM     profile     
Heather Myles !
frank rogers
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From: usa

posted 04 June 2002 03:02 PM     profile     
Jack Kittel.
Jeff Evans
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From: Fort Worth (not that other place 30 miles east)

posted 04 June 2002 08:26 PM     profile     
Here's one who spans from 1970 to the present: Joe Paul Nichols http://www.joepaulnichols.com He's been recording with Doug Jernigan recently, and it's encouraging to hear clean, sparse records like this can still be made in Nashville.

Shuffles Joe Paul has done include "That's What It's Like to Be Lonesome," "Odds and Ends," and "Each Season Changes You."

[This message was edited by Jeff Evans on 04 June 2002 at 08:32 PM.]

Robert
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From: Champaign, IL

posted 05 June 2002 07:26 PM     profile     
Skeets McDonald and Wynn Stewart. Fairly obscure, definitely real. Shuffles, to boot.

Rob Yale

Alvin Blaine
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From: Sandy Valley, Nevada, USA

posted 06 June 2002 01:59 AM     profile     
I was reading this and thinking of Skeets McDonald and Wynn Stewart, but since someone already sugested those two then I'll have to second it. I have the Bear Family box sets on both and hardly go a week without listening to one of them.
Tim Rowley
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From: Pinconning, MI, USA

posted 06 June 2002 10:17 PM     profile     
You young guys and your "deep catalog".

Seriously, I had the priveledge to do two live shows with Joe Paul Nichols a couple years ago. He's real genuine country and western and has a lot of soul in his delivery.

Ole' Billy Cook down in Florida ain't real good lookin' but man, can he EVER put a country song across. And he ain't real particular, he can sing 'em all. He's got 3 or 4 cassette albums floating around out there. Seems like Jack Stoner on this Forum has worked with him.

Then there's always Bill Phillips, Marvin Rainwater, Jimmy Skinner, etc. What about some of the Louvin Brothers material?

Do you ever tune in Eddie Stubbs late at night on WSM? He plays some great "deep catalog" and is a walking encyclopedia of country music, especially steel guitar and fiddle.

Tim R.

[This message was edited by Tim Rowley on 06 June 2002 at 10:22 PM.]

Smiley Roberts
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From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075

posted 07 June 2002 02:06 AM     profile     
quote:
You young guys....

Hey Tim,
Thanx for referring to me as "young". I appreciate the hell outta it. (I'm 64½) You must REALLY be old.

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Jerry Hayes
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From: Virginia Beach, Va.

posted 07 June 2002 11:57 AM     profile     
Hey Jason,
Here's some of the Los Angeles guys who should've made it big nationally but for some reason didn't. They were all great singers and some of 'em picked pretty well to:

Jerry Inman.......worked with Gene Davis at the Palomino Club in No. Hollywood for a while. Jerry had some great albums and actually had the first cut on some tunes which were covered by some Nashville artists and became major hits. He was a great singer IMHO. I always liked a tune he had called "Six Weeks in Alaska".

Bobby Durham......Was on Capitol records for a little while. Had a great tune out called "My Past is Present". Worked a lot with his brother Wayne. I think they were out of Bakersfield.

Joe Carson......What a great singer. He was killed in car wreck in the sixties I believe. Willie Nelson cut one of his songs called "I Gotta Get Drunk". Joe was on his way to the top when he got killed. I always liked his song "Helpless" it featured Billy Mize on pedal steel.

Buddy Cagle......What a singer!! He was also on Capitol for a while. He had a recording of "Sing a Sad Song" which was dang near as good as Merle Haggard's. I also liked "The Gold Cup" by him....Got a chance to play a couple of gigs with him years ago and he was one nice dude. He was sort of a Marty Robbins type of singer.

Glen Garrison..........Another tragic story here. He was killed in an automobile accident in Arkansas I believe. He held down the fort at Miller's Cave in the LA area for a long time and recorded for Imperial Records. I've got an LP album of his which is just fantastic. I think he was one of the first soulful type of country singers. He had a lot of emotion in his voice. Ray Charles covered on of Glen's songs on an album.

Bobby Austin.......Another Capitol alumni. He had the best rendition of "Apartment Number 9" ever recorded. I think it was also the first. I've got his Capitol album of the same name. Some other good tunes on it are "Cupid's Last Arrow" and a personal favorite of mine is "Gone Home to Momma" which was written by none other than Ralph Mooney. Ralph is also featured on this whole album.

Red Simpson........Another West Coast artist who's mostly noted for his truckin' songs. Red wrote a bunch of stuff recorded by Buck Owens. He had a major hit called "Hello, I'm a Truck" which did pretty well for him. He was also a fine lead guitarist and steelman.

Sammy Masters........The king of local LA country music TV for years and years. He's still giggin' around town while everyone else has either retired or died. Sammy had some good tunes like "Barcelona Baby" and even wrote a couple of songs recorded by Patsy Cline.

As you can probably tell I favor the West Coast artists as I played out there for many years. Nashville sort of looked down their noses at us but Buck & Merle sold more records than any of their artists of the same time frame, so there!!!!!

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Jody Sanders
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From: Magnolia,Texas

posted 07 June 2002 01:05 PM     profile     
Joe Carson was one of my favorites. His "Double Life" is a classic. I can go back a long way as I started playing steel in 1948. Riley Crabtree "Shackles And Chains". Leon Payne "I Love You Because" Curtis Kirk "The Little Things YOu Do."(Al Petty on steel. Rudy Gaddis "Garden Of Roses" (Jody Sanders on steel). Smokey Stover "There Must Be A Love Song There Somewhere"(Jody Sanders on steel). Tony Douglas" His And Hers " . Having developed brain damage as most of the senior steel players do, my memory just suffered a burn out. Jody.
Larry Hendrickson
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From: New Glarus, WI

posted 08 June 2002 03:05 PM     profile     
Find anything by Darrell McCall, especially the "Lily Dale" cd from around 1975. You can't get much more country than this, and there's alot of Emmons on this one too. LH
Shaan Shirazi
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From: Austin, TX, USA

posted 09 June 2002 10:00 PM     profile     
Is Warren Smith considered obscure? If you like shuffles the Bear Family CD "Call of the Wild" is about 75% shuffles and it's a good'urn.

Shaan

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J W Hock
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From: Anderson, Texas, USA

posted 10 June 2002 09:17 AM     profile     
Nice little coincedence Shaan. After a week away I returned to the Forum this morning. I read this post first and right away thought of Warren Smith. Was about to type him in when I got to your last entry.
Definitly "Call of the Wild" CD. This is the country side of Warren Smith who is mostly remembered as a 50's rockabilly. Lovely mid-sixties, west-coast shuffles !
Joe Henry
Member

From: Ebersberg, Germany

posted 10 June 2002 10:29 AM     profile     
"Deadly Earnest And The Honky-Tonk Heroes". That one´s as obscure as you can get. two quotes from the back cover:

"Friend, if you can appreciate a cold beer on a warm summer night, a rowdy honky tonk and a close encounter with your favorite kind, then the music of Deadly Earnest & the Honky Tonk Heroes is for you. Here, proudly presented, is their debut album. What the hell, put it on your turntable, crack open a fresh beer and enjoy."

"Buyer Beware!
What you hold in your hands has an insidious relationship with Demon Rum. Which is to say that Deadly Earnest And the Honky Tonk Heroes are good ol´barroom boys...This record may be the best thing since prohibition."

Check it out if you can find a copy...

Joe H.

Tim Rowley
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From: Pinconning, MI, USA

posted 16 June 2002 12:13 AM     profile     
Smiley,

No problem. You're as young as you feel.

My actual age is 103 according to my kids.

Tim R.

Andrew Brown
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From: Houston, Texas, USA

posted 17 June 2002 10:34 PM     profile     
Joe Carson was one of my favorites. His "Double Life" is a classic. I can go back a long way as I started playing steel in 1948. Riley Crabtree "Shackles And Chains". Leon Payne "I Love You Because"

Jody,

The steel guitarist on "I Love You Because" (original version) was Frankie Juricek from Houston.

clive swindell
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From: Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK

posted 18 June 2002 04:16 AM     profile     
Jason

I keep coming across great tracks either by Don Gibson or covers of his stuff. Also, try Warner Mack.

Butch Foster
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From: Pisgah, Alabama, USA

posted 18 June 2002 07:45 AM     profile     
Darryl McCall cut many excellent songs. Fellows, who did most of the steel on his recordings?
Eddie Lange
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From: Joelton, Tennessee

posted 18 June 2002 09:18 PM     profile     
Well, Buddy has cut a lot with him, Dickey Overby has cut with him. Probably Jimmy, maybe Rick Price?
Fernando Fernandez
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From: Cadiz,Spain

posted 19 June 2002 10:20 AM     profile     
Andrew, yes..Frank Juricek. I have several Leon Payne records and I enjoy his playin a lot. He did a wonderful job in those songs.

Well, Jason I can mention here some great hillbilly stuff like this:

Leon Chappell (automatic mama, true blue papa, You hear me talkin...) great hillbilly stuff..sorry boys no steel here

Wayne Rayney : I like a lot!!!! ( with the Delmore Brothers in some songs)

Jack Guthrie: Who don't Know Oklahoma Hills? It swings.

Jimmy Heap and the Melody masters: I like alot his " ethyl in my gas tank (no gal in my arms)"

Maybe is too old-time music? ;

[This message was edited by Fernando Fernandez on 19 June 2002 at 10:21 AM.]

Don Fong
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From: Sacramento, CA USA

posted 25 June 2002 12:30 AM     profile     
Jason, here are a number of suggestions. My stylistic biases are evident.

Whitey Shafer - He has at least 2 CDs out. The man is a famous writer and co-writer. He is a superb vocalist in the Lefty mold. You'll enjoy his renditions of his own songs, such as "I Never Go Around Mirrors," "All My Ex's Live in Texas," "That's the Way Love Goes," and "Does Fort Worth Cross Your Mind," etc. Sonny Garrish on pedal steel. Bear Family released an LP of his early recordings. I have some of those tracks on 45. As I recall, Pete Drake played on a lot of the early releases.

James O'Gwynn - I like his '50s stuff, which may have been on Starday. I've got some of that material on a foreign label LP. The liner notes say Bobby Garrett and Herb Remington were among those who played steel guitar on some of the '50s cuts. When I first heard Remington on this stuff, I was delightfully surprised he played with the E9th sound. I tend to associate him strictly with Western Swing and not honky tonk. He plays on some of the early recordings of George Jones, too. O'Gwynn's '60s stuff is highly reminiscent of '60s George Jones, so much so that I have trouble telling them apart. In modern times, he has a CD, or two, out. One of the CDs features Pete Drake and Larry Sasser on steel. After that, to my ears, he no longer sounded like Jones.

Shane Worley, Benny Berry, and Roger Cooper - I lump these artists together because their CDs are produced by Mike Headrick a/o Bob Grady. Berry sounds like a young Haggard. I think Worley has a kind of a John Anderson voice. Roger Cooper defintiely has a ABC sessions Lefty sound. Worley's and Berry's honky tonk recordings are available at countrydiscovery.com. I don't know where or how you can get Cooper's CDs. I first heard Cooper on a BBC broadcast, after which, I tracked down a CD of his. Later, I bought a couple more. Mike Headrick plays very good, tasty steel on all these guys' CDs. Herby Wallace plays steel on all the cuts of one Berry CD and plays on one or two tracks on some other Berry sessions.

Kenny Serratt - On his eponymous '72 or '73 LP, he's very nearly a dead ringer for Haggard or vice-versa. Haggard produced the MGM LP. I don't recall if Merle or his late brother, Lowell Haggard, wrote the liner notes. Includes some Haggard covers, which may have been released prior to Haggard's own version of same--I'm just guessing here. He's got CDs, LP, and tapes that were supposedly available last year at the wylieopry.com website. I should have inquired about them last year because they were listed for sale by the site. Earlier this year, I had emailed the Wylie Opry regarding the availability of those recordings and one by Earl Briggs, his hotshot steel player, seeing as how no prices or purchase instructions were shown anymore. Never received an answer. Probably the recordings are available at the Wylie Opry, when performances take place. Serratt's band is the staff band.

Dave Rich - His RCA recordings are on a Bear Family CD. His earliest sides are his remarkable adaptation of the '50s Lefty style. Jimmy Day, on a couple tracks, plays some of the most touching steel you will ever hear. The first dozen tracks are honky tonk. The next ones are rock n'roll and gospel. On several of the gospel cuts (not done country gospel fashion), Jerry Byrd, of all people, plays bass. Rich sang in his own style on the rock n' roll and gospel songs.

Allen Frizzell - Guess who he sounds like. His LPs and 45s are very hard to find. His CD probably is hard to find, also. It's on a Dutch label, though it's recorded in Nashville. Bouton, Jernigan, and Perkins handle the steel chores. Hester on fiddle. The CD shows that he is a very good writer, in additon to being an excellent vocalist. He sings covers of his brother's hits on an LP (may have been a two-record set). btw, the tribute album also included an interview with his father, who reminisced, with some bitterness concerning the business end of things, about Lefty's career.

Mel Street - George Jones with a lower voice. Street was one of the premier honky tonkers. Not sure if he fits under the "obscure"classification, but, anyway, listening to him is an experience not to be missed.

Shuffle recommendations: Darrell McCall, Tony Booth, Curtis Potter, Dugg Collins, Carl Vaughan, and Charlie Walker.

Butch,
Darrell McCall's sessions featured these guys a lot: Dicky Overbey, Buddy Emmons, and Lloyd Green. So, I don't think that any one player played "the most."

Don

Stephen O'Brien
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From: Cortlandt Manor, NY, USA

posted 25 June 2002 09:11 AM     profile     
What about Billy Keeble? I like his stuff pretty good.
Leigh Howell
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From: Holly Ridge, NC, USA

posted 25 June 2002 05:06 PM     profile     
I know Dick Curless is not exactly "Obscure:But he had some great songs, and one of my favorites, was "House of Memories"

Leigh

jlsmith48
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From: blackwell ok usa

posted 25 June 2002 05:41 PM     profile     
Try Stoney Edwards. Dead now, but had a couple of top 40s in the late 60s and early 70s. Black guy with a hell of a country heart. Shame that he did'nt fair better.
Jody Sanders
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From: Magnolia,Texas

posted 25 June 2002 10:33 PM     profile     
I seemingly did not make myself clear on Leon Payne . I did demos and played dates with Leon Payne , but no master recordings. My old Pal Frankie Jursek did " Ilove You Because" and some of the early George Jones. Best Regards, Jody.

[This message was edited by Jody Sanders on 25 June 2002 at 10:38 PM.]

Joel Glassman
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From: Waltham MA USA

posted 01 July 2002 10:37 AM     profile     

Vernon Oxford?
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Myron Labelle
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posted 04 July 2002 10:09 AM           
Seeing Leigh Howells name on a post reminds me how he fits the theme of this thread. Leigh who I believe comes originally from the south somewhere made quite a name for himself in the New England area with his great Country Voice also another who post often on the Forum Joe Casey (they called him Country Joe)who I believe hails from the town I now reside in here in calif.These two in my opinion were as good as many that became big names.New England was a hotbed for Country music a lot of credit goes to these two.

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Joe Casey
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From: Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)

posted 06 July 2002 07:43 AM     profile     
Thanx for the words Myron but you left out a lot people who were there before my rusty dusty got to town.That area was jumping already with guys like Pee Wee Gokey (with a guy by the name of Leigh Howell)(Harold is still alive and kicking near 80 now)and channell 40 had Lee Wayne and the Nomads.Slim Coxx and the Country Caravan (with a teenager on Steel named Smiley something I forget). There were many 7 nighters at one time.Then they closed down the Air Force Base. One thing I couldn't believe is how many great steel players there were and still is in that area.

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Chris Forbes
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From: Beltsville, MD, USA

posted 10 July 2002 03:31 AM     profile     
I've been hearing about a guy named Chris Wall, can anyone tell me the particulars on this feller? Is he honky tonk? swing? straight country? what?
Myron Labelle
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posted 15 July 2002 04:09 PM           
Chris Wall ,nope doesn't ring a bell. Is he from the Maryland area?

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