" Around, say, 145 on a scale of 0 to 100.

DESERT ROSE alumnus.
HELLECASTERS alumnus...check him out on their (?) "Escape From Hollywood" album.

Bio, Discography, & sideman credits (@ All-Music Guide): http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=MISS70308291730&sql=B7q7tk6jx9krk

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"Anyone know his proficiency level?"

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Yes, Joey on steel.

Rich, I'm quite familiar with his proficiency on guitar (electric and acoustic) as well as mandolin and bass. I had never heard of him playing pedal steel before, so that's where the question came from. My guess is, he's probably better than average, considering his ability on everything else he touches. I was just curious if anyone on the forum has heard him play the pedal steel.

Respectfully,
Dave Burr

[This message was edited by Dave Burr on 02 September 2003 at 07:16 AM.]

Which translates to In tune and out of tune.
For once they got the alternate french title better than the real one.

I agree, fun movie. Sean Penn at least looked like he knew SOMETHING about the guitar, more than most "holly would finger sync'rs",
but certainly not like he was playing it for real.

The guitar work is great, but not truely in the gypsy jazz style, but then again it wasn't portraying Django, but a yank who love Django's playing.

I play the real deal all the time, and this stuff isn't so far off.
Now if they REALLY were doing Django's life Berrelli LaGrene, The Rosenbergs, Tchavalo Schmitt, Romaine and many others would have been the right call for the backing tracks.

Berlelli's Gypsey Project albums are awesome, Tchavalk makes me itsh just listening and the Trio Rosenburg is totally hot.

[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 08 July 2004 at 07:41 AM.]

The Gypsy Jazz purists consider Howard Alden and Frank Vignola "folk guitarists."

I've yet to read what they think of John Jorgensen. Perhaps I'll post a thread in the Django Swingpage Forum and hear what they have to say.

Shades of Jerry Garcia?

For anyone with "high-speed" access, here is a link where you can download some incredible playing by Mark O'Connor and Frank Vignola. My favorite song they do is "Swingin' on the Ville". http://www.woodsongs.com/showlist.asp
Scroll down to show #304. You can download the video, or just audio. !Warning! The video is over 100Meg. If you have "high-speed" access, it's no problem, and I promise you will enjoy it. Once you've downloaded the file, you can skip through the talking and go straight to the music.

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members of the gypsy guitar community were really PO'ed at that movie- that they didn't bother to track down someone who really played Django's style (and there are hundreds of amazing guitarists all over Europe who do- exclusively- live eat and breathe Django, can play all his solos note for note etc.)

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Reliability is the keyword here. As Andy stated, making a movie is much more than copying Django note for note.

Django was not known for his punctuality or sticking to a schedule. It was not unusual for his bandmates to have to locate him (usually in a pool hall) and drag him out well before they were to play.

Last year I attended a Gypsy Jazz Concert at Lincoln Center. Eight of the best Gypsy musicians from Europe were on the bill. Five showed.

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The Hot Swing Trio, while all great musicians, doesn't grab you the way Tchavolo's or Bireli's groups do. I don't think anyone coming out of a Hot Club Trio concert is going to run out and buy any other gypsy jazz artists. The drive of La pompe just isn't there. It's almost like Pat Boone gypsy jazz.

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[This message was edited by HowardR on 09 July 2004 at 11:26 AM.]