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But then didn't you know that there is nothing wrong with a social drink? "After all Jesus turned water into wine!!"

The fact that all who have done what he did last night; started with a social drink, never seems to cause mankind to wonder.

Man preaches,"we should learn to control our drinking." Yeah right. Just like a kid left alone in a candy store is going to exercise control.

MADD, "mothers against drinking drivers", please take note; it ain't gonna happen. Unless.......you drop the last D.

How many social drinkers will hurt others or kill them and/or their selves this oncoming blessed season? What hath man wrought?

Oh well,

His hair and face also looked like he just woke up from 2 hours sleep after a 36-hour booze bender in clothes that were dirty before the bender started.

Let's be fair, Carl. Yes, it all starts with one drink, but the vast majority can handle the social drink. It is those that cannot control themselves that get into trouble. Yes, I agree that THEY should not drink. The unfortunate fact is THEY don't see it until it's too late. But for most people, it's not a problem. Not everyone drinks for the purpose of getting drunk.

"How many social drinkers will hurt others or kill them and/or their selves this oncoming blessed season?"

Too many. Tragic. Let's pray for them.

"What hath man wrought?"

Only what God, in His sovereignty, knew and planned long before any of us came to being. Those of His elect, will be saved, the rest will fall. Again, we pray.

I don't think a glass of Reisling with our turkey dinner is gonna change the fate that has already been written, do you?

Those of us who are not rich and famous, but are happy in our personal lives might be happier and better off than these celebraties whose lives are so unstable.

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He seemed very sincere and gentlemanly.His past history was that he was quite a heavy drinker which led to his not being called for sessions etc.

These things can happen to anyone and I dont think he is beyond cure.

He slipped off his commitment to being a born
again and made a mistake..Easy for those who
are as popular as Glen "is was" to be under his own pressure whatever that may have been.
His being scrutinized is because of who he is
All things considered, he was very kind and accomodating when I worked as a liason between artists and music retail stores.

I am hoping he will resolve his problem and go on with his life. I dont like to kick someone when they are down.

It's worked for 24 years..

The first 12 or so of them I went and met with people of all races creeds and religions EVERY DAY that had a similar physiological intolerance.

I'd have to say that most of the people I met there never made it. They just coudn't "grasp and develop a manner of living which demanded rigorous honesty", far as I could tell..

Another problem I've noted is the confusion of too many "religious" aspects with a physiological intolerance. Some of the people I met in those first twelve years, in those daily meetings, that recovered, and went on to lead productive alcohol free lives were Born again Christians. Some Were Athiests or Agnostics. Some were Buddhists. A couple, like myself, were backsliding Lutherans. In my country people are free to believe what they wish. In my world it is similar.

Are different believing people "Going to Hell"? I don't know. I know I'm not.

My soul is saved whether I drank or drink myself to death or not. We all die from some self induced cause in some way or other. It's called Mortality. Maybe "Original Sin"..

Not drinking is the best way for people with physiolgical intolerance to COOH to keep "Hell" from happening on Earth. Their Gods will "Sort them Out" later I reckon..

It's closer to diabetes than hepatitis. Some people can drink heavily their whole lives and never become intolerant. Some are from birth, some like myself become so at age 25. Some religious sects seem to think that diabetes (or hepatitis) can be "prayed away", or that it is the result of these people "choosing to eat too much sugar".

God, as I picured him on the big throne with the flowing robes and crown was my best drinking buddy.. So was his kid. Alcoholism, like diabetes might be better looked at as a "condition" and go on from there.

I hope he connects with other people that have had his type of trials, and a similar physiological intolerance. It takes a while sometimes.

Maybe he just decided that he could drink socially again..

I guess we'll have to ask him.

Nobody can refuse to try and drink moderately until they convince themselves that they can't. You have to remove the shadow of doubt from your OWN mind. No one elses.

It was much easier when I realised that rather then develop "Self Control" it only required my admitting to myself that I had none when it came to drinking that depressant.

I became a believer 24 years ago. Nothing I or anybody else could do has nor will ever change my mind. Certainly nothing anybody could type.

EJL

I'd say "Your Results May Vary" but in this case, if you are Physiologically Intolerant of Alcohol....

They simply won't.

Sorry.

EJL

[This message was edited by Eric West on 26 November 2003 at 02:56 PM.]

Glen messed up.

He publicly professed his Christianity--he did not publicly profess that he would never mess up again.

The media will be all over him for a day and then that will be over. Haven't we already forgotten about that Judd lady?

In regards to his playing--I saw him on a show with George Benson. Glen was all over him playing Georges' licks back at him and not even taking a back seat to one of the Jazz worlds' greatest players. On a Strat no less!

It really is a disease, and I'm very sorry for Glen. I believe he honestly wants to be a better man than that.

If you're a believer, I hope that you'll join me in praying for him, as well as all those who have the monkey on their back.

Rick

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I'm the latest member
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I've been a huge fan of his ever since someone took me to see him in London over thirty years ago - I didn't know his name, but I was amazed by every facet of his musicianship.

Check out his singing on a lesser-known album of his - "Reunion", a collaberation with Jimmy Webb from a few years back - ir's sensational!

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"It's my Life.. Throw it away if I want to.."

(Not that there's anything wrong with that..)

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"there's been an awful murder, down on music row!"

Life has it's little ups and downs.

Better to have "done" and "screwed up" than never to have "done" at all. Huh...

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[This message was edited by Smiley Roberts on 29 November 2003 at 01:03 PM.]