Waylon's " This time will be the last time".

And I suppose Ray Price's. "I won't mention it again" which he does about ten times after he says it the first time....

I like that BP song too. I think he's gonna stick in there a while..

The "incident" happened at the free concert given by the Rolling Stones (along with Jefferson Airplane and maybe one or two more) at Altamont Speedway near San Francisco, California sometime in 1969.

There has not really been any definitive explanation of exactly what happened, and why, and I'm not sure if anyone was ever prosecuted or not. If you're interested in finding out more, there's plenty of info on it around -- you just have to do a bit of digging.

A movie of the concert was made and there are plenty of pictures that were taken during the concert. Some parts of the movie are actually quite disturbing -- more on that below.

Anyway, the Rolling Stones (according to one account) supposedly hired a bunch of Hells Angels to act as bodyguards, or "security" during the concert. The Angels (now that's ironic, isn't it?) ended up being pretty violent (surprise!) and ended up bashing a few heads in with pool cues, etc. I think one of them actually punched one of the members of Jefferson Airplane in the face and knocked him unconscious. (** however, I believe I've seen footage of Mick Jagger denying -- of course -- that they had anything to do with the Hell's Angels being there at all **).

The movie is interesting simply from the standpoint of being so ominously forboding (if that's a term) -- almost to the point of being scary -- especially when you realize everything in it is absolutely real and really happened. In the movie, you see people getting beat up, and you see Mick Jagger at one point stop the music and ask "somebody" (could it perhaps be an Angel or two?) to calm down and stop beating people up.

Finally, to get around to it -- there was a black man(I forgot his name) in the audience who was killed during the concert. I believe that the Hells Angels were suspected of murdering the man, but I don't know if anyone was ever prosecuted.

Some accounts say that the man had a gun and was acting violent. Other accounts say that the man had a white girlfriend and the Angels took affront to this fact and murdered him.

I think you can still rent or buy the movie -- if you're interested in this subject or in the Rolling Stones in general, you might want to watch it. I believe the title of the movie is "Gimme Shelter."

[This message was edited by Tom Olson on 06 December 2003 at 09:05 PM.]

Trivia -- some people think these lines:

"And as I watched him on the stage,
My hands were clenched in fists of rage;
No angel born in hell,
Could break that Satan's spell."

out of Don McClean's song "AMERICAN PIE" refer to the Altamont concert since the Stones were supposedly performing the song "SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL" at the time the murder took place, and Jagger sometimes portrayed himself as Satan during that period by calling himself "The Prince of Darkness" or something like that.

I am very interested in seeing the video - thanks again!

[This message was edited by Donna Dodd on 07 December 2003 at 06:14 AM.]

Conway: "Put your hand on the man that made you a woman - THEN tell me you don't love me no more" (or something like that)

"Lying (double meaning??????) here beside you with Linda on my mind." That one ALWAYS made me furious!
I never have trusted women named Linda (except Bill Ferguson's Wife, of course!)

[This message was edited by Donna Dodd on 07 December 2003 at 06:15 AM.]

If a person, bar, band, or other entity decides to use the Red and White for self edification, or "protection", they eventually find out that it's not set up that way.

The Band in question AND the "crowd" tried to be something they were not. It just didn't work out.

quote:

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"Tootie Frootie Aw Rootie" from the lips of terminally white Pat Boone

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.."Play That Funky Music, White Boy"..

...and let us not forget country legend George Jones' introspective record of regret about alcohol in his life...

quote:

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I've had choices
From the day that I was born
I heard voices
That told me right from wrong
If I had listened
Well, I wouldn't be here today
Living and dying with the choices I've made

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...right after this was released, he got blind drunk and drove his Lexus into a bridge abutment, nearly killing him...

[This message was edited by Pat Burns on 08 December 2003 at 08:52 AM.]

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We didn't know until the next day that someone had been killed. It was wierd, though, the way the Stones kept starting and stopping that song.

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I don't think things would have turned out much better if they would have had "captains or majors". It ain't like the boy scouts..

Everybody, if they didn't get what they wanted, got what they needed.

Isn't that the way the song goes?

EJL

[This message was edited by Eric West on 10 December 2003 at 12:06 AM.]

A touring band I was once with had a week of dances booked in Monte Vista, Colorado during their annual rodeo, and Pinkerton unexpectedly had a contract dispute with the City and "bailed out and went back to Denver" leaving Friday & Saturday "open season" during the last two days of the rodeo. The streets went "wild" and the band barely escaped harm after the drunken cowboy rowdys sent word they were going to "beat up" the band.

I was especially concerned because we had also played the rodeo competition and we had played the "William Tell Overture" so many times during the riding events that we deserved to be "beat up".

Unions!!!!

www.genejones.com

[This message was edited by Gene Jones on 11 December 2003 at 04:40 PM.]