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John Floyd Member From: Somewhere between Camden County , NC and Saluda S.C. |
posted 26 March 2004 07:12 AM
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My Idea of Professionalism also except for the counting. If you can't get it in a couple of pickup notes, you need to be somewhere else. |
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Gene Jones Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA |
posted 26 March 2004 10:04 AM
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Everyone does it a little different. That's why a band, like a football team, needs a couple of "practice" runs before the game!  www.genejones.com [This message was edited by Gene Jones on 26 March 2004 at 10:05 AM.] |
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Jerry Hayes Member From: Virginia Beach, Va. |
posted 26 March 2004 11:33 AM
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It's an old story but here goes.... Question: How do you tell when a drummer is knocking at your door? Answer: It keeps speeding up and he doesn't know when to come in. ------------------ |
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Craig A Davidson Member From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA |
posted 27 March 2004 05:10 AM
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Now, John if you can play the intro like the record where it seems to hang forever in the V chord and the the band doesn't go to the I too soon you got it made. I could never get some of my guys to do that for some reason. |
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John Floyd Member From: Somewhere between Camden County , NC and Saluda S.C. |
posted 27 March 2004 11:59 AM
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Craig If you use numbers around the Norfolk, Va area, you open a whole new can of worms.  Tell them to go to a I and they will go to A everytime. II = B, III= C, etc . If I'm not mistaken Jerry Hayes and I are the only ones who use the Nashville Number System.Throw Counting in and you have a mess....LOL [This message was edited by John Floyd on 27 March 2004 at 12:00 PM.] |
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Gene Jones Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA |
posted 27 March 2004 04:02 PM
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One of the easiest singers I ever worked with was Bobby Barnett. Unless it was an intro with a "hook", he started every song on the show strumming his guitar for 8 beats....it gave the band the key and the tempo and the audience thought it was showmanship! ...and the upside for the individual musicians was that they could be called unexpectably for a job without having to rehearse! www.genejones.com [This message was edited by Gene Jones on 28 March 2004 at 10:58 AM.] |
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John Steele Member From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada |
posted 27 March 2004 04:18 PM
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Some time ago I caught James Brown's show at the Ottawa Blues Fest. Tightest show I've ever seen. Anyway... There wasn't one tempo counted off all night, by James or anyone else. He would just point his finger at the band after an annoucement, and, WHAM, they were gone the millisecond his finger uncurled, in perfect synchronicity. Of course there were other things about the evening which made you realize these guys had done this show a gazillion times. I've never been a major JB fan, but that's the smoothest show band I've ever seen. -John ------------------ [This message was edited by John Steele on 27 March 2004 at 04:18 PM.] |
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Jimmie Misenheimer Member From: Bloomington, Indiana - U. S. A. |
posted 27 March 2004 05:41 PM
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We picked up a leadman one night when ours was sick. When he counted something off that he was going to do, he counted, 1-2-1,2,3,4,5. Ain't seen him for along time. Whatever... Jimmie |
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Jody Carver Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever |
posted 27 March 2004 06:39 PM
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From the theory I have learned..the way to count off would be 1 2 3 Pause for 1/8th rest into the downbeat...on 4 1 2 3 dum "1/8th" rest 4. Maybe I'm wrong but thats the way I was taught and to think I have been doing it wrong all these years. Im back down now. |
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John Floyd Member From: Somewhere between Camden County , NC and Saluda S.C. |
posted 29 March 2004 05:59 AM
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You know On Second thought I ain't too sure about Jerry knowing the Nashville Number System. He tried to play $5 on a 7 one time. [This message was edited by John Floyd on 29 March 2004 at 06:05 AM.] |
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Joe Casey Member From: Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9) |
posted 29 March 2004 06:36 AM
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Jim,Some people have a hard time with the numbers system. I had guys in my band that had problems playing and counting fingers at the same time. Might be hard for Jerry to get his boots off when he has to play a minor. |
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Jerry Hayes Member From: Virginia Beach, Va. |
posted 29 March 2004 07:43 AM
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Now I didn't come here to be made sport of...... As far as the number system goes it's probably one of the greatest things to ever come along in music. Just being able to listen to a radio without a guitar or anything and writing down a usable chart is great. John, both you and Joe C. could have been big stars, the only thing holding you guys back was your pickin' and singin'....JH ------------------ |
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Joe Casey Member From: Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9) |
posted 29 March 2004 07:53 AM
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Hey Jerry,You could have something there.Maybe thats why I couldn't keep a steady job. ------------------ |
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Kenny Dail Member From: Kinston, N.C. 28504 |
posted 29 March 2004 11:01 AM
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When the counter calls for "off 2" instead of "on 3", when does the the picku-p notes start? I know the difference but I was wondering if anyone else had played with a band that used this method of counting. ------------------ |
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John Floyd Member From: Somewhere between Camden County , NC and Saluda S.C. |
posted 29 March 2004 11:38 AM
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quote: Joe I never tried to be a singer and you never tried to be a picker. Thats where we both went wrong. Damn, We could have been on the Hardee's World Tour right now. [This message was edited by John Floyd on 29 March 2004 at 11:45 AM.] |
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Myron Labelle unregistered |
posted 29 March 2004 05:16 PM
In most of the Bands I played in and they were rock, the drummer did the counting off and we would most of the time kick off together. Where we ended up would have something to do with how long the breaks were. After two or three sets we could have played a tape and who would know the difference.But we all know how to count when we got payed. |
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Jerry Hayes Member From: Virginia Beach, Va. |
posted 30 March 2004 05:09 AM
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That's PAID Myron, payed is a North Carolina word..........JH ------------------ |
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Myron Labelle unregistered |
posted 30 March 2004 07:24 AM
lol.Jerry,In Louisiana they thought us "coon asses" to get pay'ed aieeeeeeee. I wrote this slow so you could understand it. ------------------ |
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Gene Jones Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA |
posted 30 March 2004 08:21 AM
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..interesting comments re LA. I learned about this while on a tour with Jimmie C. Newman, the Aligator Man, back in the 1960's. www.genejones.com [This message was edited by Gene Jones on 30 March 2004 at 08:22 AM.] |
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retcop88 unregistered |
posted 30 March 2004 02:10 PM
Ever have some guy sit and and when you ask him what key and me says the key of 3 modulate to 4? I guess thats a numbers system alright.------------------ |
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Myron Labelle unregistered |
posted 01 April 2004 05:49 AM
James you wouldn't be making fun of me would you? ------------------ |
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