Steel Guitar Strings Strings & instruction for lap steel, Hawaiian & pedal steel guitars http://SteelGuitarShopper.com |
Ray Price Shuffles Classic country shuffle styles for Band-in-a-Box, by BIAB guru Jim Baron. http://steelguitarmusic.com |
This Forum is CLOSED. |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
next newest topic | next oldest topic |
Author | Topic: Jazz Autoharp?? |
Jim Cohen Member From: Philadelphia, PA |
![]() A listing over in Buy & Sell for an autoharp reminded me of a little pet-project I hope to get around to someday: I've long wondered about making a "jazz authoharp". I think you'd just need to cut new felts to block various strings and let the good ones ring to make dom7, 9s, 11s, 13s, min7, dim7, etc. I think it would be kinda cool to play "Freddie Green"-style autoharp on a few tunes with my band. I'd have to work out the tuning though, but it seems it should be do-able. Whaddaythink? |
frank rogers Member From: usa |
![]() Very do-able. My Dad and I experimented with this a lot in the 70's. As you mentiond Jimbeaux, it's just a matter of cutting the felt mutes. Although it is not extremely practical, it did offer a unique "platform" for Autoharp. Extended or stacked chords are not something you expect to hear on that particular instrument. |
Jon Light Member From: Brooklyn, NY |
![]() How's about a John Cage style "prepared" autoharp? The world clamors for it. |
Jim Cohen Member From: Philadelphia, PA |
![]() I suppose you could make the strings fully chromatic but you wouldn't have enough room to put bars for every chord you'd want, so maybe I'd need to limit it to the major jazz keys of Bb, F, and Eb. I think you could build it with the extensions on the high end, so you could avoid strumming that end if you don't want to go as high as a 13th, 11th, or 9th... other ideas? Frank, since you fooled around with this once, any advice along the way? Also what kind of felt to get and where? |
Mike Perlowin Member From: Los Angeles CA |
![]() Perhaps a better approach would be to retain the major and minor chords, and work out arrangements with other musicans so that you get the jazz chord by combining chords played on different instruments. For example, If the guitar or piano plays a C chord and the Autoharp playes an E minor, the combinaton is a C Major 7. |
Jim Cohen Member From: Philadelphia, PA |
![]() Interesting suggestion, Mike. Thanks. Others? |
Rick McDuffie Member From: Smithfield, North Carolina, USA |
![]() Yeah, Jim. Stick with the steel ![]() But... if you insist... I'd pick one key (probably a "horn" key) and fill the autoharp up with nice big chords. And maybe have a different autoharp for each key that you're gonna play in. They're going cheap these days, so that shouldn't be expensive. Tuning the beasts is another story! But you're used to tuning steel guitars, so there aren't THAT many more notes to be tuned! Rick |
Andy Volk Member From: Boston, MA |
![]() Jazz autoharp? Just becuase you can doesn't mean you should. ![]() |
John Kavanagh Member From: Kentville, Nova Scotia, Canada |
![]() I've never seen one, but apparently there is a kind of autoharp that allows you to make your own chords - I imagine something like a one-octave piano keyboard where the chord buttons normally are. It starts with all the strings damped, and if you press down the C#, for instance, it would UNdamp all the C# strings. It would be a little more mechanically complicated - the dampers might have to run under the strings, or something. You can also get this effect by strumming the strings of a clavichord, if you happen to have one lying around, while you hold down Bill Evans chords with your other two hands. Alternately, you used to be able to get a kit from Elderly Instruments for making custom autoharp bars. You could either set it up with the money chords in one or two keys, or use partial chords that could be combined somehow. On a standard autoharp, for instance, you can get D-A fifths by holding down both D and D minor, say. [This message was edited by John Kavanagh on 07 July 2004 at 10:14 AM.] |
John Kavanagh Member From: Kentville, Nova Scotia, Canada |
![]() That reminds me, I know a really good musician who plays the accordion (stop laughing and listen for a sec, guys. Jeeze!). I heard her play something with lots of great jazzy left-hand voicings once and I asked how she managed it. (The usual piano accordion has chord and bass buttons on the left side. You can only get M, m, º, + and dom7 chords, though you can add notes with the right hand). It's always interesting to have your mind changed about what an instrument can do, and what it can sound like - new things are still out there. |
All times are Pacific (US) | next newest topic | next oldest topic |
![]() |
Note: Messages not explicitly copyrighted are in the Public Domain.
Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46