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Toby Rider Member From: Fort Worth, Texas, USA	posted 18 July 2004 12:25 PM profile I'm building up a list of currently living honky tonkers. What qualifies as honky tonk country music? Well, you've got to have a steel guitar, a fiddle and a twangy Telecaster, you've got to play some shuffles and you have to sing some songs about drinking, relationships gone wrong,etc.. Please help me add to this list! Please don't ask me to add Toby Keith or Shania Twain to this list :-) Ray Price Johnny Bush Dale Watson Roger Wallace Justin Trevino Tommy Alverson Clay Baker Hank Thompson Junior Brown Wayne Hancock BR-549 Cornell Hurd & Band The Derailers Chris Wall Don Walser Heather Myles Kevin Banford Buck Owens Asleep at the Wheel Merle Haggard Dwight Yoakam David Ball George Jones The Western Continentals The Honky Tonk Hangovers Kevin Banford & The Bakersfield Boys The Dalhart Imperials The Lucky Stars Merle Haggard Aaron Watson Kevin Fowler Halden Wofford & The Hi-Beams The Spahn Ranch Boys Ed Burleson Jason Allen Red Simpson Jerry Lee Lewis The Mavericks (early stuff) Big Sandy & The Fly-Rite Boys Bill Kirchen [This message was edited by Toby Rider on 18 July 2004 at 12:28 PM.]
Craig A Davidson Member From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA	posted 18 July 2004 12:58 PM profile Don't forget Jake Hooker and the Outsiders ------------------ 1985 Emmons push-pull,S-10 Marlen,Evans SE200,Hilton pedal
Steve Hitsman Member From: Waterloo, IL	posted 18 July 2004 01:14 PM profile Jim Lauderdale
Walter Stettner Member From: Vienna, Austria	posted 18 July 2004 01:34 PM profile Dave Biller! Kind Regards, Walter www.austriansteelguitar.at.tf ------------------
Bob Watson Member From: Champaign, Illinois, U.S.	posted 18 July 2004 02:39 PM profile James Hand and his Band
Mark Herrick Member From: Los Angeles, CA	posted 18 July 2004 02:43 PM profile Western Caravan http://www.westerncaravan.com/ ------------------
Larry King Member From: Watts, Oklahoma, USA	posted 18 July 2004 02:54 PM profile Darrell McCall Curtis Potter Dewayne Bowman Sammi Smith (after Sat nite) Billy Mata and Texas Tradition..by all means
Sonny Priddy Member From: Elizabethtown, Kentucky, USA	posted 18 July 2004 06:35 PM profile What About Hank Williams? SONNY. ------------------
Toby Rider Member From: Fort Worth, Texas, USA	posted 18 July 2004 06:37 PM profile Hank Williams Sr. is hanging out with Carl Smith and Ernest Tubb.. I'm trying to compile a list of living honky tonkers.. I'm going to provide links to bios, to try to get folks to go their gigs. [This message was edited by Toby Rider on 18 July 2004 at 06:54 PM.]
Tim Whitlock Member From: Arvada, CO, USA	posted 19 July 2004 06:31 AM profile Real honest-to-God honky-tonk, as well as western swing, rockabilly and hillbilly are still alive and kicking, but you have to make an effort to find it. It's not served up by Clear Channel for mass consumption. Thanks for your list and thanks for including our fine Colorado bands!
Larry King Member From: Watts, Oklahoma, USA	posted 19 July 2004 06:31 AM profile Don't know how I forgot this guy....how 'bout Tony Booth? Gene Watson? Texas, especially around the metroplex, and Austin, and San Antonio, there's bazillion great singers...one lesser known that comes to mind is Jim Snider....Bobby Flores is not a beer joint boozer but has a better understanding of what barroom country music should sound like than most anyone. IF we united, we might turn this thing around...maybe not eliminate what they're calling country, but re-establish a return to the REAL thing...XM radio could be the answer. Let's not forget the contribution that Ray Benson has and is making......his Bob Wills tribute C D's are absolutely great and are a 'must have' in your collection.
Henry Member From: Europe	posted 19 July 2004 08:29 AM profile RAY PENNINGTON, NOT to forget; DOUG COLLINS("Sounds like Texas"), FRENCHIE BURKE'S ("Dance Album") BOBBY FLORES ("Just for the Record") and all the stuff HE is into with his "studiofriends" (ao; Jim Loessburg- Randy Reinhard-Tommy Datemore-Dicky Overbey ------------------------------------------- EUROPE?????? HERMANN LAMMERSMEYER(germany)on his CD's all the giants as AO:Big E-pete Wade- Buddy Spicker From the Netherlands Sandy Holland and the Nightriders and europe's foremoste ""Honky Tonkers"" The COUNTRYPICKERS (Koos Biel on steel-Ton Trossel fiddle-Maurits Hitijahubessy leadguitar)
Ron Page Member From: Cincinnati, OH USA	posted 19 July 2004 09:27 AM profile Listing Merle Haggard twice makes all the sense it the world to me. I'd add Alan Jackson, Tony Booth and the late Mel Street. ------------------ HagFan [This message was edited by Ron Page on 19 July 2004 at 09:28 AM.]
Jody Cameron Member From: Angleton, TX,, USA	posted 19 July 2004 09:53 AM profile He ain't livin' but don't forget the Grandaddy of Hony-Tonkers - Gary Stewart.
Toby Rider Member From: Fort Worth, Texas, USA	posted 19 July 2004 10:11 AM profile Whoops.. Thanks for spotting that I accidently included Merle twice. :-) Also I'm really encouraged that so many people are adding to the list.. Keep at it.. I've got to keep this list limited to currently living performers, as the goal is to use it as a method to help advertise for people's gigs. [This message was edited by Toby Rider on 19 July 2004 at 10:13 AM.] [This message was edited by Toby Rider on 19 July 2004 at 10:19 AM.]
Andy Greatrix Member From: Edmonton Alberta	posted 19 July 2004 10:32 AM profile How about George Jones, Red Volkaert, and Jess Lee?
Toby Rider Member From: Fort Worth, Texas, USA	posted 19 July 2004 10:37 AM profile George Jones is already on the list.
David Doggett Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA	posted 19 July 2004 11:17 AM profile Seems like you could add some current stars, such as: Travis Tritt (Here's a quarter, call someone who cares) Vince Gil (Nobody answers when I call your name) Maybe even Alan Jackson and Brad Paisley. Seems like we are overlooking a bunch of people from the '70s, such as Waylon, Willie, Conway, Charlie Pride, David Allen Coe, Ronnie Millsaps, etc. Now I'm really worried that we are leaving out a lot of women. How do you separate out the torch singers from the honky-tonk angels? This could require a lot of thought. But surely we have to include Wanda Jackson, Patsy, Tammy, Loretta, and lots more.
Toby Rider Member From: Fort Worth, Texas, USA	posted 19 July 2004 11:52 AM profile The Outlaws (who are still alive) are all going to be on a separate list. That includes Willie, Billy Joe Shaver, David Alan Coe, etc.. The list I'm compiling is of currently living honky tonk-style musicians. As I mentioned above, I'm trying to put together a publicity tool to help out other artists. Pop country stars who do honky-tonk-style songs once and awhile aren't going to be on the list, because I'm trying to define sub-genres for the website. Otherwise, it'd all be one big list. Which wouldn't help at all. I'm trying to make it easier for people to check out new bands they've never heard before. Besides, pop country stars don't need my help, they have ClearChannel and the publicity machines of the big record labels behind them :-) Alan Jackson is going to get added to the list. As far a female singers.. Any one of them that has recorded lot's of songs that meet the sylistic criteria, I'll add to the list. For instance, if Jean Shepard were still alive, she'd be on the list. Speaking of which, I just realized that I need to add Danni Leigh to the list :-)
Larry King Member From: Watts, Oklahoma, USA	posted 19 July 2004 11:59 AM profile When did Jean Sheperd die?
Theresa Galbraith Member From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA	posted 19 July 2004 12:20 PM profile I'd add George Strait, Mark Chestnut, Joe Diffie, LeeAnn Womack, Feral Swing Kats, Tracy Bird & the late Keith Whitley.
Toby Rider Member From: Fort Worth, Texas, USA	posted 19 July 2004 01:17 PM profile Whoops.. I was thinking of Rose Maddox passing, not Jean Shepard.. Sorry about that, it's Monday. I'll add Jean Shepard to the list. George Strait, Mark Chestnut, Joe Diffie, LeeAnn Womack just got suggested on another list I posted this question to.. I'll add them along with Tracy Bird & The Feral Swing Cats. How I wish Keith Whitley were still alive! :-(
Ron Page Member From: Cincinnati, OH USA	posted 19 July 2004 01:39 PM profile Daryle Singletary and Doug Stone. ------------------ HagFan
Donna Dodd Moderator From: Kennesaw, Georgia, USA	posted 19 July 2004 05:24 PM profile Travis Tritt - love the song he did on the Opry Saturday night about the Circus leaving town. FANTASTIC! Pam Tillis Tanya Tucker (has that been said) Shania Twain (I have her first two CDs that can prove you guys wrong! )
Lem Smith Member From: Fulton, MS. U.S.A.	posted 20 July 2004 02:32 AM profile Whoa Nellie! I can't believe everyone has left out the GREAT Gene Watson so far! Gene is about as hardcore, acid country/honkytonk as you can get! Imho Also, Mickey Gilley, Cal Smith, Moe Bandy, Charlie Walker (I'm not sure if Charlie's still with us or not), Mark Chesnutt. That's about all I can think of at the moment. Lem [This message was edited by Lem Smith on 20 July 2004 at 02:41 AM.]
Theresa Galbraith Member From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA	posted 20 July 2004 04:27 AM profile Donna, I'm with ya on Shania too! I'll even add Toby to the list. I forgot to add Ricky Van Shelton, Patty Loveless, John Michael Montgomery, Rodney Crowell, Jon Randall, Harley Allen, and Rebecca Lynn Howard.
Charles Curtis Member From: Bethesda, Maryland, USA	posted 20 July 2004 05:24 AM profile How about Gretchen Wilson? I'd consider her way up there.
David Doggett Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA	posted 20 July 2004 08:11 AM profile Okay, I see what you are doing, Toby. This will be a great list. Carry on.
Tim Whitlock Member From: Arvada, CO, USA	posted 20 July 2004 12:18 PM profile Some of us here need to realize that there is music BESIDES what you hear on current Top 40 radio !
Toby Rider Member From: Fort Worth, Texas, USA	posted 20 July 2004 04:10 PM profile Okay, all of us here have been musicians most our lives, most of us here are country musicians, and most of y'all are older then me! So we all know the difference between old-school honky-tonk country and pop country. :-) I'm not making any value judgements about the sub-genres of country music, I like all kinds of country music. I'm just trying to compile a list of artists in a particular sub-genre for my website. As soon as Shania Twain pares down her band to a single pedal steel, fiddle, acoustic rhythm guitar and a Telecaster on lead, starts playing shuffles every other song, and takes a gig playing at Trout's in Bakersfield, then I'll add her to the list. :-) If there's any doubt what honky tonk country is.. Check out "Invitation to the Blues" by Ray Price, "There Stands the Glass" by Webb Pierce, "Just a Romeo" by Jerry Reed.. Y'all catch my drift.. Thanks so much for all the responses! The list keeps getting longer, and that's a good thing.. [This message was edited by Toby Rider on 20 July 2004 at 04:15 PM.]
John Steele Member From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada	posted 20 July 2004 04:35 PM profile I would add Canadian artist Sneezy Waters, as well as the band The Brothers Cosmoline to the list. -John
Donna Dodd Moderator From: Kennesaw, Georgia, USA	posted 20 July 2004 06:23 PM profile Has anyone said Shania yet????? Seriously, I do see what you're saying - you want people who have been consistant - not "sometimer honky tonkers". My favorite - Loretta!!!! (But I think I already said that!)
Ray Minich Member From: Limestone, New York, USA	posted 20 July 2004 07:14 PM profile Are Billy Walker and/or Faron Young still alive?
Steve Hitsman Member From: Waterloo, IL	posted 20 July 2004 07:18 PM profile Chris Hillman/Herb Pederson
Rick Schmidt Member From: Carlsbad, CA. USA	posted 20 July 2004 11:27 PM profile If you mean someone who has to make his living by playing music in places where ignernt people still smoke cigarettes like choo choo trains while getting tanked up on booze, fighting, dealing dope, heckling and carrying on. You know....the kind of places that Jerry Springer forgot. Where you have to air out your gear before playing "respectable" (but less fun) gigs.... Then that'd be me. 4 beat shuffle---fifty five eleven---4 up---ready---set---go. i.e.
Jussi Huhtakangas Member From: Helsinki, Finland	posted 20 July 2004 11:28 PM profile Billy Walker is still around, Faron unfortunately is not. Toby, you've included some of my favorite bands in your original list you might wanna add The Hacienda Brothers there too ( check www.haciendabrothers.com )
Gary Dunn Member From: Walnut Cove, NC, USA	posted 21 July 2004 07:14 PM profile Cline, Paycheck, and Wills.
Charles French Member From: Ms.	posted 22 July 2004 05:37 AM profile I like to post first and then read the question. Hope these are living(: Oh and I almost forgot, Hank Thompson, Vern Gosdin, Red Stegall, Carl Jackson and a fellow that did "Another Place, Another Time" "How's My X Treating You" "What Made Milwaukee Famous" and a couple more goodun's. [This message was edited by Charles French on 22 July 2004 at 05:52 AM.] [This message was edited by Charles French on 22 July 2004 at 05:57 AM.] [This message was edited by Charles French on 22 July 2004 at 07:00 AM.]
Larry King Member From: Watts, Oklahoma, USA	posted 22 July 2004 06:14 AM profile Am I missing something?...I thought the subject was "LIVING" singers..why the mention of all those who have passed on? While you're at it,(if deceased artists are to be mentioned)I nominate Wynn Stewart.
Charles French Member From: Ms.	posted 22 July 2004 07:10 AM profile 3 edits? Could I please have a cup of COFFEE! Did I mention Toby, Brad, Shania, Joe, Mark, Tracy, Pam, John Michael? I hope not!

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