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Greg Vincent Member From: Los Angeles, CA USA |
posted 31 August 2004 08:25 AM
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Hi folks, We've all seen sus2 chords and sus4 chords; what if you had BOTH the 2 and the 4 in there? I'm thinking about a chord spelled 1,2,4,5. Looks like a train wreck on paper but actually sounds quite nice. It's pretty and open sounding but unstable and seems to want to resolve to the 1 chord. It acts like a 4 over 5 chord. What would this chord be called? Sus2+4??? -Insomniac in L.A. (Back when I just played 6-string guitar I never got out of bed in the middle of the night to try out an idea on my instrument. What is it about PSG that causes me to do this??? --ooops that's another topic |
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Roger Rettig Member From: NAPLES, FL |
posted 31 August 2004 09:31 AM
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'Sus 4 add 9' would be my guess. I just played it on guitar - A root, E on the 4th, B on the 3rd, D on the 2nd, and an open E. When I voice the 'third' on the 5th string as an arpeggio, it spoils it. By the way, I do exactly the same thing - if it's a six-string problem it can wait 'til morning, but I'm frequently sleep-walking to the other room where the steel is! I have no explanation..... RR [This message was edited by Roger Rettig on 31 August 2004 at 09:53 AM.] |
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chas smith Member From: Encino, CA, USA |
posted 31 August 2004 10:07 AM
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It belongs in the family of 4th chords, or neutral chords. The inversion would be, 5-1-4, such as G-C-F, where the D would be added color. If you listen to McCoy Tyner's playing, way back, it was a way of moving around without defining where you are, which opens up the possibilities of where you could be. Also, if you listen to film music, a lot of it is neutral to keep it "floating". |
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Earnest Bovine Member From: Los Angeles CA USA |
posted 31 August 2004 02:20 PM
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Some guys write sus42 for that, with the 4 above the 2. |
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Don E. Curtis Moderator From: St Louis, Missouri, USA |
posted 31 August 2004 04:17 PM
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How 'bout a "sus add 2" ? I guess depending on what ocatave it's in, so if it's on the top it's an add 9, and if the spelling is like you stated, then it's an "add 2" ? Always intrigued with stuff like this... Don Curtis |
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Tom Olson Member From: Spokane, WA |
posted 31 August 2004 06:05 PM
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quote: In the words of Austin Powers, "OH YEAH! GROOVY BABY!" |
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Roger Rettig Member From: NAPLES, FL |
posted 31 August 2004 06:29 PM
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I can't believe I said 'add 9' - I MEANT 'add 2'. RR |
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Steinar Gregertsen Member From: Arendal, Norway |
posted 31 August 2004 07:26 PM
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quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a way of moving around without defining where you are, which opens up the possibilities of where you could be -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sounds like the majority of Norwegians between age 15 - 25 on an average Saturday night....... ------------------ [This message was edited by Steinar Gregertsen on 31 August 2004 at 07:26 PM.] |
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Eric West Member From: Portland, Oregon, USA |
posted 31 August 2004 08:40 PM
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Or a certain politician... Actually a sus4 is probably the one single note you can play against nearly any chord and not be wrong if you don't know what's happening ninths are a close second. Susses are annoying to be sure if overused. EJL |
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John Kavanagh Member From: Kentville, Nova Scotia, Canada |
posted 23 September 2004 10:45 AM
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The simplest thing is probably C4+2, or with the 4 over the 2. Most people would know to play a fifth but not a third with that. You could also respell it: CDFG could be a C4+2 or a G7sus4, though you'd have to call it G7sus4/C to get the right bass note. The first way's easier all-round, the other way is just trying to force it to look like a "normal" (thirds-based) chord. When you start getting into that kind of nonfunctional harmony, which they've been using in classical music for about a century, maybe it's time to rethink reading music, or at least look around for a better shorthand. |
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