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Author | Topic: Carlos Santana-Scale? |
Keith Hilton Member From: 248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721 |
![]() Does anyone know what scale Carlos Santana seems to always play out of. It does not sound like the Blues Scale to me. It is a different sounding scale. Thanks |
Joey Ace Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada |
![]() Hi Keith, Santana's work is very much Dorian Mode, with a slight bit of standard Pentatonic scale. I'm thinking of his early work, such as "Evil Ways", not A good description of the Dorian Mode, as applied to standard guitar can be found here. |
Don Joslin Member From: Trapped in Minnesota and longing for New Mexico |
![]() He's been known to use a lot of Phrygian too - the flat 2 gives a real latin sound. Don ------------------ |
Sam Marshall Member From: Chandler, AZ USA |
![]() He uses natural, harmonic, and melodic minors, too. Dorian and petatonic are always good as mentioned earlier. If he is playing in a minor key and its 5 chord is altered, but definately major dom 7, try harmonic minor to emphasize the 3 and flat 9. He had a hit about 2 or 3 years ago that did this. The 2 chord was often a minor flat 5, which also fits in this scheme. Sam |
erik Member From: |
![]() Well, does he really play specific scales or just the notes he's used to playing for his style - which could mean whatever sounds good to him? I thought he was self-taught. ------------------ |
Jim Peters Member From: St. Louis, Missouri, USA |
![]() A very easy way to get the right notes is this: In Dm(Black Magic Woman), use the notes in a C major scale, in Am, use notes in Gmajor scale. In other words, a whole step below the minor 1 chord. These are only the notes, it will not give you the feel, but they work! JP |
Marc Friedland Member From: Vallejo, CA |
![]() Keith, In addition to psg, I also play 6-string & keyboards. In order to help you figure out what kind of scale Carlos Santana generally plays out of, I sat down and reviewed the primary notes he plays in Black Magic Woman & Smooth for the intros & the bulk of the solos. (I guess this is what happens when I have too much time on my hands by the unusual situation of not having any gigs this weekend.) I find that in both songs, he pretty much uses the same scale. -- If this song used a “G” chord as compared to the Gm it does have, then I would agree with Jim, because then all the notes used (with the exception of the occasional C#) would be all in the key of C major, D E F G A B C In Smooth, the chords used are Am, F, E7, Dm, & G. (Yes, I know there are a couple of others used in spots) I realize there are many variations and definitions of a “minor scale.” and I understand that people who play a wider variety of music than I do would give them reason to need more detailed labeling, in addition to the fact that music theory requires it. I apologize if my ignorance in this area is disturbing to anyone. Keith, I hope I was able to express myself clearly enough, without making it sound more complicated or more confusing than it really is. -- Marc |
Tim Harr Member From: East Peoria, Illinois |
![]() Sam Marshall hit it on the head.
Tim |
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