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David Mason Member From: Cambridge, MD, USA	posted 21 January 2005 03:04 AM profile I was watching bits and pieces of the Inaugural yesterday, and I noticed that every time people started singing, they used this really wide, dopplering vibrato technique. Even the Marine Choir (or whoever those people in the captain's hats were) were doing this, all in unison. This doesn't seem to be a gospel thing, as those folks usually sing pretty much spot-on the note. I've noticed this too when people are singing the National Anthem at football games: "Oh-wo say can you see-ee-ee-ee, by the dawn's early li-ay-ay-ay-ayt", all this woo-wooing stuff. If a steel player tried playing like that, the band would break his fingers or cut off his bar tab or hand him a b@njo and make him go stand in the corner. Is there some rule that says vibrato denotes passionate love of country or something? I had to turn the sound down there, for a while. [This message was edited by David Mason on 22 January 2005 at 01:49 AM.]
Tony Prior Member From: Charlotte NC	posted 21 January 2005 04:01 AM profile maybe it was your TV set ? t
Roy Ayres Member From: Starke, Florida, USA	posted 21 January 2005 05:41 AM profile It was cold there. They were just shivering. ------------------ Visit my Web Site at RoysFootprints.com Browse my Photo Album and be sure to sign my Guest Book.
Herb Steiner Member From: Cedar Valley, Travis County TX	posted 21 January 2005 06:37 AM profile This from the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta GA: quote: The medical term for this debilitating condition is "BGS," an acronym for "Brothers Gibb Syndrome." It is also commonly referred to as "Bee Gee's Disease." The malady manifests itself behaviorally, and was first discovered in the late 1960's in Great Britain. The epidemic peaked in the mid-1970's, coincidentally with the rise in disco-based music. The cause is unknown, and since the condition generally is not considered terminal, very little research is dedicated to eradicating this disease. However, the devastation seems to be greatest on those people geographically closest to the vector, as the disease affects the host to a far lesser extent than it does to the listeners of same. ------------------ Herb's Steel Guitar Pages Texas Steel Guitar Association [This message was edited by Herb Steiner on 21 January 2005 at 06:41 AM.]
Jay Fagerlie Member From: Lotus, California, USA	posted 21 January 2005 07:13 AM profile I thought it was called the "Stevie Nicks" syndrome.....
Bob Markison Member From: San Francisco, CA	posted 21 January 2005 07:36 AM profile Indeed. Miles Davis and Charlie Parker (among other seasoned pioneers) considered vibrato to be an impediment to creative music making at any tempo. Dinah Shore's vibrato could shift the tectonic plates. I have to stick with Miles and Bird on this one. Just a rare trace of vibrato should do the job. David's point is well taken, and I am deighted to see Herb's medical reference. I suppose Freud would see vibrato as a regressive, irrepressible impossible-to-sublimate, somewhat pitiful cry.
Wayne Carver Member From: Martinez, Georgia, USA	posted 21 January 2005 07:58 AM profile I thought it was something the boy bands started. Whitney Houstin didn't use to do it but now she does. Most of the singers on the "American Idol" tv show do this also.
Terry Edwards Member From: Layton, UT	posted 21 January 2005 08:05 AM profile Alison krauss - no vibrato. Doesn't get any better! Terry
John Lacey Member From: Black Diamond, Alberta, Canada	posted 21 January 2005 08:40 AM profile Canadian reference: Get Sylvia Tyson, Lucille Starr and Buffy St. Marie all on the same stage and the sheep will be returning for miles.
Stephen Gambrell Member From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA	posted 21 January 2005 09:38 AM profile Don't forget Dolly, 'specially in the early days!
Thomas Bancroft Member From: Matawan, New Jersey, USA	posted 21 January 2005 10:14 AM profile Is that Dolly the Sheep or Dolly the Parton?
David Mason Member From: Cambridge, MD, USA	posted 21 January 2005 10:52 AM profile Even an old farm boy like me knows the difference between Dolly Parton and a sheep.
David Doggett Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA	posted 21 January 2005 11:46 AM profile I don't think anyone has ever topped Guy Lombardo's sax section for irritating vibrato. They always sounded like each one was riding a jack hammer while playing.
Rick Aiello Member From: Berryville, VA USA	posted 21 January 2005 11:48 AM profile ... Guess y'all aren't big fans of early Hawaiian steel guitar ... Maybe alittle ... Dick McIntire backing Ray Kinney ... will remedy that ------------------ Aiello's House of Gauss My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield [This message was edited by Rick Aiello on 21 January 2005 at 11:52 AM.]
Ray Minich Member From: Limestone, New York, USA	posted 21 January 2005 12:33 PM profile Tarzan, now there's a guy that knew vibrato!
Dave Van Allen Member From: Doylestown, PA , US , Earth	posted 21 January 2005 12:58 PM profile "le-eh-eh-eh-et the-ee Ea-ee-ee-ee-gle so-oh-oh-oar..." yikes!
Tony Prior Member From: Charlotte NC	posted 21 January 2005 01:02 PM profile David..you're very aware.....Sheep pretty much don't play the Banjo... uh oh....I said Banjo... . t
John Steele Member From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada	posted 21 January 2005 01:22 PM profile Hey, some of us like Johnny Bush ! -John p.s. He's my favourite Bush.
Frank Parish Member From: Nashville,Tn. USA	posted 21 January 2005 02:21 PM profile I heard a DJ here refer to Toby Keiths vibrato as the kind you can throw a football through.
chas smith Member From: Encino, CA, USA	posted 21 January 2005 02:50 PM profile Blame it on the Italians: "Bel canto (Italian, beautiful singing voice) a lyrical, smooth vocal style associated with eighteenth- and early nineteenth-century Italian professional singers and designed to show off the singer's voice, the term first appears in Vaccai's ariette da camera (before 1840); the vocal style associated with the works of Rossini, Bellini and Donizetti"
Chris Lasher Member From: Athens, Georgia, USA	posted 21 January 2005 08:05 PM profile Like Frank, I guess, I thought this was going to be another Toby Keith bashing thread. Oops, did I just open up a new can of worms? quote: Alison krauss - no vibrato. That's actually an incorrect statement. Alison uses vibrato, for certain. She uses it in places that I've not heard any other singer use it, though, and as such, has a very subtle effect. It's most always on passing notes, and often on very brief ones. It's there, though; just gotta listen for it. Check out "Living Prayer" or "Restless" off AKUS's new album, Lonely Runs Both Ways. Anyway, it's more like a warble of a beautiful songbird than ridiculous operatic vibrato, though. Melts me every time... sigh [This message was edited by Chris Lasher on 21 January 2005 at 08:10 PM.]
Derek Duplessie Member From: La Jolla CA USA	posted 22 January 2005 10:10 AM profile The republicans have a tendency of getting either washed up celebs. (Michael Bolten, Bo derek, etc.) or performers that have no talent. Thus the reason the singers have annoyingly excessive vibrato.
Rick Aiello Member From: Berryville, VA USA	posted 22 January 2005 11:00 AM profile Ella Fitzgerald, Sarah Vaughn, Mel Torme, Bing (young) ... All known for exquisite vibrato ... I find them captivating ...

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