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Frank Parish Member From: Nashville,Tn. USA |
posted 22 February 2005 01:58 PM
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I never thought Dylan was a Sinatra singer or anyone else for that matter. He's just himself and that's obviously enough. On the other hand I never thought ET was a great singer either but I always liked what he did anyway. I think being real is every bit as important if not moreso than all the other things put together that make a great singer/entertainer. We were listening to the words in the 60's of Dylan and The Beatles. It was the words that sold him and still does. Was Johnny Cash a great singer? You know on key all of the time? He remained a solid singer/songwriter right up to his death and he didn't sound anything like he did in his earlier years. The message and the words will bring the fans. |
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Mike Winter Member From: Oregon City, Oregon, USA |
posted 22 February 2005 02:45 PM
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Donny -- congrats on the gig. Graham, Orville, Terry, Bill and Frank...what you said.  |
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John Steele Member From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada |
posted 22 February 2005 02:55 PM
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I think this forum would be alot more functional if a person was allowed to say they didn't care for something without being accused of "bashing" someone. I never "got" Dylan either. Congrats, Don, sounds fun. Sorry to digress. -John [This message was edited by John Steele on 22 February 2005 at 02:56 PM.] |
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CrowBear Schmitt Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France |
posted 22 February 2005 03:33 PM
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who remembers Dylan's return after his accident on the Johnny Cash show ? the Beat generation was'nt really popular amongst the CxW crowd i can see that 35 years later the cleavage remains funny to note that during those years Zimmy was'nt using much steel if any and now over the past few years he's goin' out w: one. i remember seein' here on the Forum a post or link of Dylan playin' for the Pope & sure enough there was steeler & his contraption. |
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Terry Edwards Member From: Layton, UT |
posted 22 February 2005 05:37 PM
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quote: Well, Bob Dylan was the one that introduced the Beatles to smoking pot. So I guess you could say his influence continued on way past Rubber Soul! Terry |
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Orville Johnson Member From: Seattle, Washington, USA |
posted 22 February 2005 11:26 PM
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everyone is entitled to their opinion and i gave mine. i didn't criticize anyone else. but one thing i said is a fact, not an opinion, and that is that bob dylan's music will be sung and listened to long after all of us are playing harps (pedal harps i guess). |
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Chris Forbes Member From: Beltsville, MD, USA |
posted 23 February 2005 05:40 AM
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Alvin, I almost fell out of my chair laughing when I read your comment about a Styx concert!! LOL!!!!!!!! Charles, please reread my post, in no way did I run down or make a derogatory comment about Bob Dylan (if you were referring to me). I was merely expressing my opinion that there were others who were more influential than Mr. Dylan. |
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Craig A Davidson Member From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA |
posted 23 February 2005 10:25 AM
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Dylan will be in Milwaukee with Haggard on April 8 and 9. Sounds like a fun one to go to. |
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Mark Ardito Member From: Chicago, IL, USA |
posted 23 February 2005 10:52 AM
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Well...I got my tickets for Sunday night show in Chicago. Dylan and Haggard together...can't wait! To the people who think that Dylan needs Haggard to fill seats...The past 4 times Dylan has been in Chicago I have gone and there was NEVER an opening act and all 4 shows have been sold out. In fact, the shows sold out the day the tickets went on sale. Haggard has come through Chicago a couple of times in the past few years and he wound up playing to very small crowds. In fact the last time Haggard was around Chicago he played at a community college gym and not even a club or theatre. Congrat's on the gig Don! Looking forward to hearing some pickin'. Cheers! ------------------ |
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scott murray Member From: Orange Park, FL |
posted 23 February 2005 10:55 AM
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here's part of an article detailing Merle's health problems. I sure hope he pulls through: Haggard has had some health issues recently. He canceled several dates late in 2003 because of respiratory problems and recently visited the Mayo Clinic for treatment of what he said has been diagnosed as lupus. While he was there, Haggard told UPI he had a brief cancer scare. "The flag went up on the cancer and they did an internal biopsy on me and found that it was benign," he said. Haggard said he was relieved to discover why he hadn't been feeling well. "I'd get to a certain part of the day and I'd just collapse," he said. "I'm a guy with unlimited energy, and all of a sudden I'd have a headache in one part of my head and it would stay there for 20 minutes and then move somewhere else." Haggard said he and his doctors were mapping out a course of treatment for lupus -- a chronic inflammatory disease in which the immune system loses its ability to distinguish between foreign substances (antigens) and its own cells and tissues and makes antibodies directed against itself. He said he wanted to let his fans know he appreciated their prayers and wishes for recovery -- and said those kinds of health concerns are just part of being 67. "You can't get away with laying up in the hospital dying of nothing," he said. "When you're Merle Haggard and you have a place to be and a promise to be there, you have to have reasons why you're not." Part of Haggard's response to his condition has been to change his diet. "I've just assumed that raw food is a lot better than cooked food," he said. "If I don't mess up and eat half a pie, then I'm all right." Los Angeles, CA, Jan. 18 (UPI) |
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Jeppe Grangaard Member From: Denmark |
posted 23 February 2005 03:22 PM
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Funny, though! Dylan directed a lot of listeners all over the world towards country and the steel with "Nashville Skyline Rag", 1969. Again with "Time out of mind" in 1997, Getting Daniel Lanois’ steel playing exposed to a wider audience. And with Love’n Theft, pulling good people up on stage, introducing strong musical tradition to the world, and now Merle Haggard. Well, thank you! Jepp |
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Terry Edwards Member From: Layton, UT |
posted 23 February 2005 03:23 PM
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quote: Be thankful it's not "fiddles with twin Dylans and steel guitar"! |
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Bobby Lee Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA |
posted 23 February 2005 05:08 PM
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Good one, Terry!  As for Merle, I saw him last weekend and he gave a great performance! He joked about his health. "Every 3 weeks I gotta give up something. This week is was the skin of onions. We have an ambulance that follows the tour bus around. Instead of roadies, we have nurses!" He went on and on - really funny stuff! Then he did "I Wish I Was Thirty Again" and everyone sang along. Merle rules! ------------------ |
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Bob Doran Member From: Ames, Iowa, USA |
posted 23 February 2005 07:10 PM
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As far as I am concerned, Bob D. was/is the greatest. His way with words was uncanny, and the power and emotion of his songs, with all its satire, cynicism, anger about hypocrisy still reach out like no other. Unfortunately the one time I got to hear him, he was well past his prime (in the early 80's). His voice was gone, and worse, he insisted on playing each song in a completely new way. I honestly did not recognize a single song he did all night long. BOb |
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Savell Member From: |
posted 24 February 2005 02:08 AM
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. [This message was edited by Savell on 29 May 2005 at 07:04 PM.] |
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Tony Prior Member From: Charlotte NC |
posted 24 February 2005 04:30 AM
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I would still pay to see Dylan ..with or without a band ..and with or without Merle... and of course I would certainly pay to see Merle too... I would take the gig for the photo opp alone ! t [This message was edited by Tony Prior on 24 February 2005 at 06:54 AM.] |
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retcop88 unregistered |
posted 24 February 2005 05:23 AM
I always thought Dylan was a country singer. I just have not figured out what country or what language he sings in. Steel and Fiddle ought to get him on the OPry or a Nashville recording contract and a lot of country airplay. CMT is a lock to run the Video every hour. Oooome ---Oooooo me... |
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Alvin Blaine Member From: Sandy Valley, Nevada, USA |
posted 24 February 2005 06:01 AM
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quote: Maybe at one time, now fiddle and steel is a Nashville death wish! |
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Ken Lang Member From: Simi Valley, Ca |
posted 24 February 2005 07:22 PM
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A few weeks ago Dylan was interviewed by Bernard Kalb on TV. My take from it was a somewhat frustrated Dylan saying, "They don't get it. They never got it. I wasn't trying to be a voice of my generation. I just wanted to play my songs and have them listened to." "That's all I ever wanted, not this misplaced adulation of being some kind of spokesmen for my generation. That's all wrong. They just don't understand" "And even today they STILL don't understand." |
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Mark Lind-Hanson Member From: San Francisco, California, USA |
posted 25 February 2005 12:58 PM
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I'd be the first to congratulate the guy for getting the steel spot as well. Certainly anyone Bob picks to play with him has an opportunity to show -the mean old men contingent- just what they have to be jealous of. But why not just allow him the space to show what he'll add to Bob's band (and the violinist, too) Hopefully she'll be an improvement over Scarlet Rivera. It never HAS been about Bob's voice, nor neccescarily what a great player he is- it's always been about the songs he's written, and how he puts them across/over. Lots of people are upset these days over Bob's "new" approach to his vocal technique since it's unfamiliar to what they became used to on records. but that's not allowing HIM his own evolution either, and I think yo gotta give him a lot of credit for BEING Bob Dylan. HE has done more for American music than the Beatles ever did, that's for sure. Larry IS out of the band that was announced very recently through inks on the Dylan website (bobdylan.com)- personally, I can't wait to hear what the new results will be, and the juxaposing of Haggard's set with Bob's thing. I'll bet plenty of the "mean old man contingent" hereabout feel their "fightin'side's" being walked on, just by putting the two of these guys on the same bill together. Well, it just shows -you can't judge a book by its cover... and that music is a really big tent! |
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Frank Parish Member From: Nashville,Tn. USA |
posted 01 March 2005 10:30 AM
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I heard today what that Dylan gig pays and I very very seriously doubt anyone in the Haggard band will make anything near what Donny will get payed. I will stick with my first post. I'd take that gig in a New York minute and I don't even go out for any artists gigs. I could learn to love it for that much money. |
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Ron Whitfield Member From: Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA |
posted 01 March 2005 01:07 PM
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Bob is awesome. -please note the period After 40 years, I'm still trying to figure out him and his songs. Part of why I like him. All his Honolulu shows have been great AND usually included steel guitar. I sure hope he hit's these shores on this tour, just to see how 'horrible' he is now! |
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Ian McLatchie Member From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada |
posted 01 March 2005 01:55 PM
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As far as I'm concerned, getting to see any Dylan concert is an opportunity to be treasured, all the more so when the band includes Donny and Elena. As for Dylan's voice, sure, it's only a shell of what it once was, but he sure as hell hasn't forgotten how to put across a song on stage. But when he was in his prime? It's a mystery to me how anyone can listen to the great albums of the '70s and claim that Dylan was a lousy singer. "Simple Twist of Fate," "Isis," "Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts" - if singing is nothing but a "beautiful" instrument and refined technique, Dylan is no singer, but I'll take that pure passion every time. |
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Greg Simmons Member From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada |
posted 01 March 2005 02:44 PM
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In case you missed it, here's the transcript of his 60 Minutes interview from a few months back. |
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Greg Simmons Member From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada |
posted 08 March 2005 07:56 AM
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Here's a couple reviews from Monday in Seattle; nice to see Don Herron get name-checked http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/pop/214999_dylan08ww.html?source=rss http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/artsentertainment/2002200464_dylan08.html?syndication=rss [This message was edited by Greg Simmons on 08 March 2005 at 06:04 PM.] |
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Theresa Galbraith Member From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA |
posted 08 March 2005 09:34 AM
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SWEET! |
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Jerry Hayes Member From: Virginia Beach, Va. |
posted 17 March 2005 09:07 AM
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Ain't no use to sit and wonder why babe, It don't matter anyhow...... Ain't no use to sit and wonder why babe, If you don't know by now.... When the rooster crows at the break of dawn, look out your window and I'll be gone, You're the reason I'm travelin' on, Don't think twice, it's alright...... Just some of the words to one of my favorite Dylan tunes. I personally love his music and have most everything he's recorded. I've heard other people do his stuff but most of 'em can't do it justice. One of the best covers I heard was Linda Ronstadt's recording of "I'll Be YOur Baby Tonight" which made me wish she'd be my baby tonight. Bob Dylan ------------------ |
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Mark Lind-Hanson Member From: San Francisco, California, USA |
posted 17 March 2005 11:16 AM
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I caught Merle and Bob last night in Oaktown. Space probably prevents a legthy review, I just want to report my observations on the new band. Donnie sounds like he will work out alright. He has a different approach than Larry does, mainly, using more volume and more vibrato. He did a few things with a doublenecked lap steel (switching necks mid song) that were audially interesting. He also sounds alright on fiddle & banjo, but I'd much rather hear him on the steel. The other two guitarists seem to have found a new pecking order- while Kimball was "bombastic" last time out, he seems content and to let the new guy take charge- at least, "the new guy" has a very disciplined style and everything he played was quite tasteful. The two violins together (when they use them) works alright, esp did on "Girl from the North Country. Bob played kybd with a funny guitar-piano hyprid tone for this tune, and that was a little odd of itself- but all in all, the band, anchored as it is by the incomparable Tony Garnier on bass, sounds like they will be going great guns by the time they pull into the Midwest and East. The surprise of the night was Haggard. He definitely was worth coming to hear, as he plays well, knows how to take a solo,& puts some real soul and emotion into his show. You couldn;t help but be moved, although this night, he didn;t play Mama Tried, Sing Me Back Home, or Hungry Eyes (any of which would have maybe been gilding the lily. He did play WorkingMan Blues and Fightin' Side of ME, but the superpatriotism of the latter was balanced by a very well recieved version of That's the News. You'd do well to catch this show, it's rare you get two National Treasures for the price of one- and the opening act was commendable too, Amos Lee. Reminds me stylistically of JJ Cale. All in all, not a wasted moment all night. |
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Janice Brooks Moderator From: Pleasant Gap Pa |
posted 18 March 2005 09:18 AM
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No word from folks on the BR forum of long term plans. |
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Henry Nagle Member From: Santa Rosa, California |
posted 18 March 2005 11:10 PM
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A friend went to see the Dylan/Haggard show in Oakland the other night. He told me he heard that Don Henley(!?) was playing steel for Dylan. I thought that was pretty weird. I thought: "You never know. Maybe it's not to late for Don Henley to achieve something meaningful" This thread sure cleared up that mystery for me. |
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Jimmy Gibson Member From: Cornwall, England |
posted 10 July 2005 11:58 PM
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Willie Nelson,how many great songs has he wrote?not my cup of tea in the vocal dept,but think of how many of his songs have been sung and recorded by many of the country and pop stars?AND some are very interesting in the chord dept,and IMHO he is a great guitarist in his own style, and as far as i know {and that aint much}he dont uses any effects just a beat up looking guitar and a style all of his own.Bob Dylan has been around a long time,so he must be doing something that many people like, and for the records if i had to listen to him singing i would want paying.but we all have our own tastes. JG Excell D10 PV MASTER 400,PV BANDIT,AMPEG SS70 AND OTHER TOYS. |
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Alan Shank Member From: Woodland, CA, USA |
posted 11 July 2005 01:49 PM
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Mitch Jayne (bass player, front man with "The Dillards) had a great line when introducing the Dylan song "Walkin' Down the Line." He said that Dylan sound like "a dog with his foot caught in barbed wire," but that it didn't matter because Dylan wrote the songs. This was in about 1964, so Dylan's voice was probably at its "peak." Whether you like Dylan or not is simply a matter of personal preference. As far as I'm concerned, I listen to Dylan for the lyrics mostly, whereas I hardly pay any attention to the lyrics in country songs. I would listen to Dawn Sears sing nonsense syllables, because I love her voice and the way she uses it. I would not listen to Dylan singing songs with bland, boring lyrics. Cheers, |
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Barry Blackwood Member From: elk grove, CA |
posted 11 July 2005 05:01 PM
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Hey Smiley, you forgot to include Paul Williams and Buffy St. Marie in your list of (awful) singers/(great) songwriters. Like nails on a chalkboard ...! |
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daynawills Member From: Sacramento, CA |
posted 13 July 2005 09:51 PM
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You guys are cracking me up, especially you, Jim Cohen! I have mixed emotions about Elana gigging with Dylan. I'm glad she got the gig, but I'm gonna miss Hot Club, which I understand has re-vamped into a 6 piece band with Koefer on steel. I have a 26 yr. old niece who is a Dylan freak, go figure. I read Vol. 1 of Dylan's book and I came away with a whole new outlook. I always thought he was a big druggie, but according to him, he did very little drugs or alcohol, and was really bothered by people calling him a prophet. He said he had a wife and kids and he couldn't hide from the media. He said all he wanted to do was sing Woody's folk songs, period. He just morphed into this Bob Dylan superstar and the way he looks at it is that there is no one more surprise than he. He also came across in his book as a conservative, IMHO ------------------ |
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Alvin Blaine Member From: Sandy Valley, Nevada, USA |
posted 13 July 2005 11:04 PM
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Elana Fremerman is no longer on the tour. She just did the first month or so and I think she went back to doing gigs around Austin. |
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Bob Martin Member From: Madison Tn |
posted 16 July 2005 03:44 AM
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Donnie Herron is one of the nicest pickers I have ever had the pleasure of picking with. He use to set in at Gabes in Nashville before he got the gig on Broad with BR549. I loved to hear him play one reason was he knew all of the old material which was pretty unusual for a young fiddle player. Keep in mind that was a long time ago. Maybe the late 80's or so. Anyway WAY TO GO DONNY!!! If you read this send me an email. I'd like to congradulate you in person or at least in email hee hee Big Bob |
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