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Greg Vincent
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From: Los Angeles, CA USA

posted 28 November 2005 09:45 AM     profile     
Hi folks!

Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving.

Over the holiday weekend I went and saw the new movie Walk the Line about Johnny & June Carter Cash. I enjoyed it! The music sounded GREAT and Reese Witherspoon & Joaquin Phoenix were fantastic, I thought.

My only gripe: Luther Perkins, who was responsible for Johnny's great "boom-chika-boom-chika" guitar backup, got very little attention.

Anybody else see this flick?

-GV

Jack Stoner
Sysop

From: Inverness, Florida

posted 28 November 2005 10:14 AM     profile     
I haven't gone to see it yet. But, I worked with Tommy Cash on Nov 19th (the day after the movie opened) and his comment was that Reece Witherspoon "did June proud" and that she should get an Oscar for her performance.

Tommy said he had seen the movie twice, once in August at a private showing for the Cash family and then went to the Nashville Premiere on the 18th.

Walter Stettner
Member

From: Vienna, Austria

posted 28 November 2005 10:22 AM     profile     
There is one song by Reece Witherspoon (Honky Tonk Blues) using steel - that is Lloyd Green playing!

Kind Regards, Walter

www.lloydgreentribute.com
www.austriansteelguitar.at.tf

[This message was edited by Walter Stettner on 28 November 2005 at 10:22 AM.]

chas smith
Member

From: Encino, CA, USA

posted 28 November 2005 11:34 AM     profile     
The "Folsom" scenes were worth the price of admission...saw it at the Arc Light Cinema.
Jay Fagerlie
Member

From: Lotus, California, USA

posted 28 November 2005 12:02 PM     profile     
I want to go see it also, for a couple of reasons...
First, my grandfather was a guard at Folsom for 40+ years, and has an autographed album from the man in black himself.
And second, Johnny wrote that song after seeing the movie "Inside the walls of Folsom Prison", a B-flick from 1951. My grandfather had a speaking role in that movie, playing what else, a guard. He told me he made more $$$ in that one day of filming than he made for the entire month of being a guard!
I have tried to get a copy of the movie, but have had no luck so far...
Maybe one of these days....
Jay
Bill Terry
Member

From: Bastrop, TX, USA

posted 28 November 2005 01:31 PM     profile     
I saw it over the weekend, I liked it. I thought T-Bone Burnett did a great job on the music production and scoring.

Another thing I noticed was the attention to detail regarding instruments from the era. I didn't see any obvious anachronisms. The Tele had the right number of pickguard screws

Dave White
Member

From: Fullerton, California USA

posted 28 November 2005 01:50 PM     profile     
I saw the movie last Saturday. I thought it was fantastic, Reese Witherspoon did the best acting job I've ever seen her do and Joaquin Phoenix was amazing as "JR" Cash. The one beef I have with the film was that it didn't show the major role that Mother Maybelle played in Johnny's rehabilitation. Maybelle Carter spent a lot of time with him, praying with him and for him, and believed in him when others wrote him off. Johnny grew to love her as much as his own mother. I wish the movie had shown that. But still, it was a great film and it deserves some Oscar nominations for sure.
Charles Curtis
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From: Bethesda, Maryland, USA

posted 28 November 2005 03:46 PM     profile     
If Lloyd is heard in it then I'll go see it.
Larry Strawn
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From: Golden Valley, Arizona, USA

posted 28 November 2005 04:06 PM     profile     
Saw it this week-end, thought it was pretty good.
I don't do movies very well, for me to get out and go to one, I was really anticipating it to be good, I wasn't dissapointed.

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Mark Eaton
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From: Windsor, Sonoma County, CA

posted 28 November 2005 04:29 PM     profile     
Charles-even if Lloyd weren't in it you should still go see it.

A very good, but I wouldn't say great movie. Joaquin and Reese were excellent.

I think the thing ended in 1968 because the rest of John's career would make a good movie, though not so controversial.

Look for a sequel in a couple of years.

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Mark

Earnest Bovine
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From: Los Angeles CA USA

posted 28 November 2005 04:38 PM     profile     
Bill, that is funny! The actors are chewing the scenery, going for the Academy Award, and you're counting screws on a Telecaster.
Tim Harr
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From: East Peoria, Illinois

posted 28 November 2005 05:24 PM     profile     
I saw the movie.

I thought that the movie was very well done. I read where the director was not looking for a "Johnny Cash impersonator" to play the role of Cash. Joaquin does a great job but is not a "dead ringer". I am glad he wasn't actually. I see it like this. When you read a book your mind is responsible for creating the images in your head. I think that the idea here is to use what Joaquin Phoenix does on screen allows your mind to do just that but takes it about 1/2 a step further. I feel that he was able to convey the spirit and soul of JC. I don't know if that makes any sense but it is my way of saying that I felt like I was experiencing Johnny Cash on the screen with out being over critical of how he was singing the songs as I remember hearing them on the recordings.

As far as the portrayal of Elvis, Jerry Lee, Roy Orbison goes. I understand that the guy that plays Elvis (Tyler Hilton) was not a dead on ringer for the King. If he was I feel that that may have been a distraction to the Johnny Cash character. I saw Hilton’s performance merely as an acknowledgement that Elvis was around, on the Sun tour with Johnny, and a friend of his.

As far as continuity of musical instruments for the era ..Overall it was excellent. The blue Epiphone Bass that Marshall Grant used was dead on. The Fender Esquire that Luther played…Excellent! The Fender amps..Excellent!! Though, something tells me that there was “something” that didn’t match up… I can’t remember what it is. After I see it for a second time, I will hopefully notice it again and I will edit this posting.

I highly recommend this movie. If you grew up with Johnny’s music..it WILL speak to your heart and soul.

If you have not seen this movie, what the heck are you waiting for??

Bill Terry
Member

From: Bastrop, TX, USA

posted 28 November 2005 06:02 PM     profile     
quote:
The actors are chewing the scenery, going for the Academy Award, and you're counting screws on a Telecaster.

EB, kinda tells you where I'm at huh??

Olli Haavisto
Member

From: Jarvenpaa,Finland

posted 28 November 2005 10:09 PM     profile     
I think the 50`s Martin that gets smashed by Cash/Phoenix had Schaller tuners !! Ouch!

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Charley Adair
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From: Maxwell, Texas, USA

posted 29 November 2005 08:57 AM     profile     
I enjoyed the movie, and felt that the actors did a marvelous job. I was impressed.

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Steve Pacholl
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From: Minneapolis

posted 29 November 2005 09:05 AM     profile     
I also thought the movie was very well done. Lots of attention to detail that in some cases only mavens would notice, i.e. the letter written by Glen Shirley. I also thought the scene with Marshal Grant and his bomb was a great touch. Cash and his band blew up a lot of stuff during their early tour days, but unless you've read Cash's biographies you would wonder what was up with the bomb.

The one scene that I question though is the scene of Waylon and Cash in the apartment. Suppose to be the mid-60's but Shooter looks like his dad of the late 70's. The earlier scene of June throwing the beer bottles where Luther and Waylon are picking I think was a more accurate look for Waylon at the time.

Another liberty was that the film gives you the impression June wrote Ring of Fire by herself and some of the time-line seemed a bit off.

We have to remember too that the film is about the love affair between John and June and how June resisted because of John's drug abuse. To go into to detail about all of Cash's various influences and all the significant events of his career would turn the film into a mini-series.

I think the fact that so many of the people who around Cash at the time who had a role in the production helped keep the film realistic and somewhat accurate. The production staff certainly did their homework.

David Doggett
Member

From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

posted 29 November 2005 12:52 PM     profile     
Yeah it was good. I would have preferred a little less of the love affair and drugs, and a little more about the music. All those guys came from country music. Then they created rock'n'roll. Nashville thought it would kill country music, and there was a lot of enmity at first. Then some, like Cash and Conway Twitty, went back to country, and others went with rock'n'roll. There's a huge historic story there that was completely ignored in this movie. Lots of movies have love affairs. I guess we're still waiting for one about how country and R&B gave birth to rock'n'roll.
John Poston
Member

From: Albuquerque, NM, USA

posted 29 November 2005 01:17 PM     profile     
David,

I think some of the best music ever produced was in that wonderful gray area when country, rockabilly, blues, R&B and rock and roll were all sort of the same thing. A lot of great stuff was put out before everyone figured out the "rules" of the genres.

[This message was edited by John Poston on 29 November 2005 at 01:18 PM.]

jim milewski
Member

From: stowe, vermont

posted 29 November 2005 01:28 PM     profile     
I loved it, I doubt there was a dry eye in the theater when June finaly said "yes" on stage. I have a new favorite female actress now, did mother Maybelle really hold that shotgun? When I got home there was some footage of the San Quentin concert, neat to see Carl Perkins pickin on "A Boy Named Sue"
James Dasinger
Member

From: Houston Tx.

posted 29 November 2005 01:30 PM     profile     
Gregg
I agree with you, very little about Luther Perkins,Statler Bros. backing Johnny up. When he was open up the letters Glen Shirley I thought he wrote Greystone Chappel at San Quention. May be they will make another movie.
Bill Hatcher
Member

From: Atlanta Ga. USA

posted 29 November 2005 04:19 PM     profile     
Actually it would have been very correct if Luther had been playing his 55' Fender Esquire. He was just so cool, in the "strangest" kind of way as Cash sang.

Funny, I sort of skipped down the thread and saw someone write how Reese and Joaquin did such a good job and the first thing I thought to myself was "how did Reese Anderson and Murph get into this movie". 8-)

I will see it soon.

Tim Harr
Member

From: East Peoria, Illinois

posted 29 November 2005 06:22 PM     profile     
quote:
I would have preferred a little less of the love affair and drugs, and a little more about the music.

Dave: the love affair and the drugs were mostly responsible for the music. I am afraid you couldn't have had the truth without all of it.

Knowing more of the "story" explained to me more about the music.

Thanks

Tim Harr
Member

From: East Peoria, Illinois

posted 01 December 2005 07:12 PM     profile     
I also liked the fact that the scene shot at the Ryman was very accutate to the period.

TH

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