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John Billings
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From: Northfield Center, Ohio, USA

posted 10 June 2006 01:04 PM     profile     
Creates a near riot! http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20060609-9999-1mi9hank.html
Paul King
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From: Gainesville, Texas, USA

posted 10 June 2006 02:23 PM     profile     
I would not walk across the street to see him sing. He sounds like he is just not a good person to be around. Definitely a disgrace to country music.
Alvin Blaine
Member

From: Sandy Valley, Nevada, USA

posted 10 June 2006 02:52 PM     profile     
He'll never play Solana Beach again!
Chris LeDrew
Member

From: Newfoundland, Canada

posted 10 June 2006 04:58 PM     profile     
Disgraceful...........raising hell like that. His grandpa would be shocked.
Ron Whitfield
Member

From: Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA

posted 10 June 2006 05:38 PM     profile     
Thanx for the post, John!
The article and this thread is the best laugh yet today.

H3 vs Trashville?
I'll take the boy every time, as I'm sure would his proud granddaddy.
www.H3.com

Kevin Hatton
Member

From: Amherst, N.Y.

posted 10 June 2006 07:04 PM     profile     
Its ashame. That kind of unprofessional behavior will get him no where.

[This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 10 June 2006 at 11:02 PM.]

David L. Donald
Member

From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand

posted 10 June 2006 08:48 PM     profile     
In the rock world this isn't unprofessional.
it is being a rebel, and that fits the marketing.

In the country world of out door concerts it is.
And horrifies the older generation
who become apoplectic in their aprobrium.

He should have picked a better venue to be a rebel.

Andy Sandoval
Member

From: Bakersfield, California, USA

posted 10 June 2006 08:50 PM     profile     
Sounds like Solana Beach shoulda done a little research before hand. Hank Williams III has a reputation for this kind of behavior.
Larry Robbins
Member

From: Fort Edward, New York, USA

posted 10 June 2006 08:59 PM     profile     
I believe its all a part of his "schitck"
as far as that goes I dont care a great deal for that kind of act. But, as far as his music goes, I have all of his country CD's and I must admit I really like a lot of his stuff. After all, how bad can he really be if Kayton Roberts toured and recorded a lot with him?

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Kevin Hatton
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From: Amherst, N.Y.

posted 10 June 2006 11:04 PM     profile     
We cover two of his songs, and musicly I think he's great. I just think that its insulting behavior.
Alvin Blaine
Member

From: Sandy Valley, Nevada, USA

posted 11 June 2006 12:50 AM     profile     
quote:
Definitely a disgrace to country music.

I just don't know where he would ever learn how to behave like that on stage.
If his dad were to ever do something like that, say show up wasted to a concert in say, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Start to sing a line of a song then all of a sudden start cursing at the audience and flipping off the officials and security.
If something like that were to ever happen you'd think the concert promoters would seized his private jet until everyone at the show was reimbursement.

What if Hank III's grandad, the one and only Hank Williams, were to show up late to gigs drunk and insult management and audience members. Why if something like that were to ever happen back in the '50s then the Grand Ole Opry would have fired him on the spot.

So where does this kid learn to behave like that????

[This message was edited by Alvin Blaine on 11 June 2006 at 12:54 AM.]

Larry Robbins
Member

From: Fort Edward, New York, USA

posted 11 June 2006 04:49 AM     profile     
retcop88
unregistered
posted 11 June 2006 05:04 AM           
Times certainly have changed,Since when is bad language a good thing? Ever notice even comedians have to swear to get a laugh.Boy Elvis and Jack Benny would never make it in these times.Seems there is no use for real talent anymore. People just don't know the difference.*&^% it.
Janice Brooks
Moderator

From: Pleasant Gap Pa

posted 11 June 2006 06:56 AM     profile     
I got blocked from reading the article but I'm not shocked. As for his music he tells it like it is.
Sonny Priddy
Member

From: Elizabethtown, Kentucky, USA

posted 11 June 2006 07:37 AM     profile     
Disgrace To Country music. I Mean Real Country Music. SONNY.

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John Billings
Member

From: Northfield Center, Ohio, USA

posted 11 June 2006 10:47 AM     profile     

SOLANA BEACH – An annual fun-filled fiesta quickly turned into a fiasco Sunday when entertainer Hank Williams III spewed profanities from the stage and encouraged slam dancing that sheriff's deputies tried to stop for fear of massive injuries.

Yesterday, city officials were still recovering from the debacle, which happened at the end of the two-day Fiesta del Sol. Although no one was injured or arrested during the 7 p.m. performance, city officials vowed that in the future they would control the festival's entertainment list.

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The Solana Beach Chamber of Commerce produces the annual fiesta that features live music, arts and crafts, children's rides and international food.
While the city didn't organize the event, it was held at the Fletcher Cove public parking lot and the organizer had asked the city to sponsor $13,000 of its expenses. The City Council will discuss that request Wednesday.

If the city sticks to its promise of tight scrutiny, future fiestas won't see the likes of Hank III, Deputy City Manager and Public Safety Director David Ott said.

The singer, grandson of legendary country star Hank Williams, is known for his hard-driving songs and off-color language. He was paid $5,000 to perform and was a surprise headliner addition, Ott said.

Those who attended the concert said Hank III veered from his promised country music, playing punk at the end. He directed vulgar hand gestures toward the audience, cursed the city of Solana Beach and used obscenities that were broadcast into the city because the amplifiers at the Fletcher Cove stage faced east toward homes.

Hank III's agent, Jon Pleeter, was unavailable for comment yesterday.

Ott, who was at the event, said Hank III encouraged 40 to 50 fans to form a mosh pit – in which dancers jostle and shove one another – that deputies feared would lead to injuries. About 10 percent of the packed audience of 3,000 to 4,000 people were children, adding to the concern, Ott and organizers said.

When a security guard escorted a fan from the moshing hot spot and deputies confiscated cans of beer from the crowd, Hank III got angry and the crowd got agitated.

One of his singers jumped into the crowd and some in the crowd tried to jump onto the stage.

“There was potential for it to get out of control,” Ott said.

City Councilman Tom Campbell, who heard the profanities from his kitchen, has demanded that the chamber relieve Dan Herzberg, vice president of the chamber, of his duties as chairman of the fiesta.

Herzberg issued a letter of apology on Monday, to city officials and to local newspapers.

“I love music. His grandfather was so much part of our history,” Herzberg said yesterday in a telephone interview. “This was one time for the fiesta to make an impact so our children can hear and see music.

“I talked to his agent. He had assured me he would sing country music,” Herzberg said. “He put on a great show, but he used the 'f' word too much. He was trying to create a frenzy.”

Herzberg said he's also received compliments on Hank III's show. So did FM 94.9, which promoted Fiesta del Sol and plays Hank III's music, said Garett Michaels, the radio station's program director.

Ken Leighton, who booked Hank III and the festival's other performers, said he was deeply sorry.

“There was no excuse for this. I deeply regret this mistake. We tried to do something good,” Leighton said. “I had no idea he would turn into a degenerate.”

Ott said festival organizers never told the city that Hank III would be performing, and only found out eight to 10 days before the show when the Sheriff's Department received a tip that he was going to sing.

Because of the singer's reputation, the city immediately demanded the organizers hire six additional deputies and four more security guards, for a total of 20 law enforcement and security personnel, Ott said.

Deputies decided not to stop the show for fear of starting a riot, but organizers cut it short by 15 minutes, Ott said.

Fiesta del Sol raised $90,000 this year through its sponsors, beer garden and vendors, Herzberg said.

News assistant Amy Carson contributed to this report.

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Stephen Gambrell
Member

From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA

posted 11 June 2006 11:16 AM     profile     
Hank III is a joke. I think he's trying to pull a fast one on his Daddy's fans, his Grandfather's fans, AND the metalheads he plays to. The only thing real about this doofus is his tattoos, and I imagine he wishes he could get them removed. You guys can compare Sheldon to Hank all you want, but Hank wrote, and performed, and BELIEVED in his music. Can you say the same thing about III? Hank got drunk, and accidentally insulted his audience. Can you say that about III?
Finally, Hank Williams had talent. I DARE you to say that about III!

[This message was edited by Stephen Gambrell on 11 June 2006 at 11:17 AM.]

John Rosett
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From: Graham, NC USA

posted 11 June 2006 11:43 AM     profile     
"i had no idea that he'd turn into a degenerate."
i don't think that the transformation occurred at that concert.
Charles Davidson
Member

From: Alabama, USA

posted 11 June 2006 11:48 AM     profile     
I don't think his grandpa believed in satanism.Check out the third's web site and you'll see what I mean.
Larry Robbins
Member

From: Fort Edward, New York, USA

posted 11 June 2006 01:28 PM     profile     
BTW, its Shelton.

[This message was edited by Larry Robbins on 11 June 2006 at 01:29 PM.]

HowardR
Member

From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 11 June 2006 02:12 PM     profile     
I sure hope we have better luck with Hank IV.


quote:
who become apoplectic in their aprobrium.

Stop speakin' all them Thai words....this is America!

[This message was edited by HowardR on 11 June 2006 at 02:20 PM.]

Stephen Gambrell
Member

From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA

posted 11 June 2006 07:20 PM     profile     
OK< it's Shelton. I'm sorry I didn't see your post before you edited it, Larry. I hope you're not one of those who've fallen for the "mystique," and not the "music." I think "SHELTON" is a sham, no matter what he's trying to play. If he were true to his convictions about "his" music, then he wouldn't call himself Hank III, now would he???
BTW, this post is NOT edited!!!
Ron Whitfield
Member

From: Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA

posted 11 June 2006 07:41 PM     profile     
Saw Dan Hicks do a similar (but even 'worse') thing at a Home & Garden show once, and it was hilarious.
Guess it depends on how it's done.

[This message was edited by Ron Whitfield on 11 June 2006 at 11:39 PM.]

Chris LeDrew
Member

From: Newfoundland, Canada

posted 11 June 2006 10:36 PM     profile     
As a father, I can't applaud his decision to be an obnoxious
$%^hole in front of an audience that's partially comprised of young children. Then again, it's no worse than primetime television, or what's going on at home.
Charles Davidson
Member

From: Alabama, USA

posted 12 June 2006 04:02 PM     profile     
There is a Hank fourth being groomed.
Larry Robbins
Member

From: Fort Edward, New York, USA

posted 12 June 2006 04:22 PM     profile     
Stephen,
I only edited my post to add the "smiley"
so no one would think I was being a hard ass! BTW, I NEVER take back anything that I say!

Bless your heart,
( ok, edited for spelling)

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[This message was edited by Larry Robbins on 12 June 2006 at 04:23 PM.]

Stephen Gambrell
Member

From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA

posted 12 June 2006 05:00 PM     profile     
Larry, I don't wanna argue with anybody, either . I saw Hank II last year, made up my mind that he was a goofy put-on, and I still feel that way . No soul, whatever type of music he was trying to play, and he got more applause for his cussin', than he did for his playin'! Now, that's sad .
But all this is just my opinion, which I guess I should keep to myself---NAAH, that'd defeat the theme of this thread, wouldn't it? Hank III just isn't very talented. That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it .
Ryan Spearman
Member

From: Colorado, USA

posted 12 June 2006 05:09 PM     profile     
Well, well, well...I must admit that I've only read about 70% of this string, but it seems to me that nobody has thought to quote Bocephus in the old "Family Tradition"

To the best of my recollection:
"People ask me Hank, why do you drink?
Hank, why do you roll smoke?
Why must you live like the songs that you wrote.
Stop and think it over. Put yourself in my unique position...If I get stoned and sing all night long it's a Family Tradition"

I am a mega fan of Hank Sr. (it was Don Helms playing on my old vinyl that inspired me to pick up the steel),AND

This is truly disrespectful, ungrateful, and unforgivable behavior by lil' tricephus,

BUT

I don't think Hank Sr. was an angel...He did die in the back seat of a chauffered vehicle en route to a gig as a result of alchohol and heavy barbituates, I believe.
If that's not setting a "rock-star-lifestyle" precedent for your progeny, then what is?

Well, I hope I've rustled some feathers with my comments, cause this is a fun topic.

p.s. HowardR...lest you accuse me of obfuscation, I will benevolently proffer an elucidation concerning the afforementioned suspect vocabulary:
Progeny: a descendant or offspring


Ryan Spearman
Member

From: Colorado, USA

posted 12 June 2006 05:14 PM     profile     
Here's a link to a quick autobiography:
http://www.otrcat.com/hankwilliams.htm

Health and Happiness, friends?

Bob Wood
Member

From: Campbell, California, USA

posted 12 June 2006 10:22 PM     profile     
Ain't it kinda like picking up a Rattlesnake? You know you're gonna get bit!

Bob

Keith Cordell
Member

From: Atlanta

posted 13 June 2006 02:47 AM     profile     
He didn't do anything he doesn't do at any show- and some of us appreciate him for his unique approach. As to him being a disgrace, it's a disgrace for folks that haven't even heard him to condemn him based on hearsay- the old gossipy hens at the churches I grew up in weren't such jerks. Listen before you criticize or maintain silence- lest you make yourself look any stupider.
Erv Niehaus
Member

From: Litchfield, MN, USA

posted 13 June 2006 07:53 AM     profile     
I wonder if anybody has considered a package

show with Hank III and the Dixie Twits?

That should really bring in the crowds!

Marlin Smoot
Member

From: Atlanta,Georgia, USA

posted 13 June 2006 08:45 AM     profile     
Sounds like he put on a show with whatever music he played.
People should quit looking at the cover and actually read about the performers they hire.
Ron Page
Member

From: Cincinnati, OH USA

posted 13 June 2006 09:05 AM     profile     
I'm with Ryan. Family Tradition came immediately to mind. Worst concert I ever attended was by his dad in 1982. Jr. was stoned and sounded nothing like his records. Family Tradition, in deed.

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Jody Sanders
Member

From: Magnolia,Texas

posted 13 June 2006 10:10 AM     profile     
If you will notice, if you have great talent, you can make it on your own regardless of who your grand-father was. Anyone who would say Hank Sr. was as bad as Hank Jr. or Hank 111 is grossly mis-informed. As I said in a previous post in another thread on this subject, Hank Jr. spent a lot of money trying to break Hank 111 into the rock field, but Hank 111 couldn't make it there either. He is the worst no- talent out there. Jody.
Rick Garrett
Member

From: Tyler, Texas

posted 13 June 2006 10:12 AM     profile     
I saw a special on all 3 Hank's on maybe discovery channel or something. Probably 6-8 months ago. The only music Hank 111 did was some of his grandpa's old songs just him and an acoustic guitar. The kid knocked me out. Sung with as much feeling as his old grand daddy did way back when the songs were hits. Shame he's not into good music.

Rick

Smiley Roberts
Member

From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075

posted 13 June 2006 12:50 PM     profile     
quote:
I wonder if anybody has considered a package show with Hank III and the Dixie Twits?

UH-OH,I can almost hear the key being inserted into the lock right now!

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Gavin Dunn
Member

From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

posted 13 June 2006 01:53 PM     profile     
I've seen Hank play...It was really good.
Sadly his mouth was clean as whistle.
Then, I suppose we miss alot of great shows this far north.

But really...let the kids learn to swear naturally. It's a right of passage...and means more when they find it on their own.

David Doggett
Member

From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

posted 13 June 2006 04:25 PM     profile     
Solano Beach, say hello to country punk. I'm shocked, shocked I say. Let's all give these young bucks the prudish indignation and outrage they crave and expect.
Alvin Blaine
Member

From: Sandy Valley, Nevada, USA

posted 13 June 2006 04:38 PM     profile     
quote:
Anyone who would say Hank Sr. was as bad as Hank Jr. or Hank 111 is grossly mis-informed.

Are you talking about music or lifestyle?

Because only one of the three died of self abuse before he even turned 30! Of course he also made the best music of the three.


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