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Author Topic:   What do you country guys think of G. Straight?
Jason Schofield
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From: Detroit, MI USA

posted 23 June 2006 02:15 PM     profile     
I love George. His albums are very consistent in quality. He can play the old western swing stuff and always has steel guitar and fiddles. His album "Always Never the Same" is amazing from start to finish. One of my all time favs. I'll admit that some of his tunes get a little syrupy sometimes, but it's still really good tasting syrup. I hope George is still touring in his late 60s, then he'll really be considered legend.
Jeff Garden
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From: Center Sandwich, New Hampshire, USA

posted 23 June 2006 03:04 PM     profile     
I've seen George Strait live 4 times and the one word that comes to mind is "professional". He may be a man of few words when he's not singing but that's just the way I like it - no need for fancy light shows and pyrotechnics. He knows why you're there (to hear a great concert) and he gives you your money's worth. It's also refreshing to see a show start on time as opposed to when some swelled head egomaniac keeps a crowd waiting an hour, does five songs, and calls it a nite. George has a super tight band, always tasteful steel from Mike Daley, and consistent vocals from himself and his backup singers. Also, little wasted time between songs - one song goes right into the next. Any time I've seen him interviewed he comes across as an extremely modest person - unlike some of the overhyped "new country" acts that have to constantly remind us how great they are. Overall - a big thumbs up for George and the band. One of my all time favorite songs is still Amarillo By Morning.
David Tunnell
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From: Marshfield, Missouri, USA

posted 23 June 2006 03:04 PM     profile     
Strait has had at least 51 number ones. The single off the "50 Number Ones" album, "I Hate Everything", went to #1, too. His album "Somewhere Down In Texas" came out since then, so there may be more #1s off of that. Strait eclipsed Conway Twitty's record a few years back.

If you don't like George Strait, you just don't like country. If I could play behind anybody in the world alive today, my first choice would be Ray Price, second would be Mandy Barnett (if you don't know who that is, you owe it to yourself to find out), and third would be George Strait. But, if George Strait wanted to call me, I would make arrangements to move him to the top of the list.

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Larry Strawn
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From: Golden Valley, Arizona, USA

posted 23 June 2006 04:35 PM     profile     
David T.

If George S. called me to play, I sure wouldn't have to put him on hold while I thought about it!! LOL....

Larry

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Ben Slaughter
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From: Madera, California

posted 23 June 2006 04:57 PM     profile     
quote:
I played country music for 5 years or so before I heard any of the lyrics. Think of it as a classic art form. Note selection and arrangement are the important things. The lyrics just give the vocalist some syllables to sing. They aren't meant to be modern, earth-shattering poetry.

I bet I'll hear a song 5 or 10 times before I actually hear the lyric.

Like so many others, King George's album cuts are always my favorites. Tons of great swing tunes, lots of great C6 work.

I believe Mr. Emmons has done quite a few sessions with GS over the years, including several (if not all) of the cuts on the "Pure Country" album.

Bobby Lee
Sysop

From: Cloverdale, North California, USA

posted 23 June 2006 11:08 PM     profile     
I don't believe in "number one hits". There's no such thing anymore. the market is so fragmented, everyone can have a "number one hit" in their own niche. It's totally meaningless.
Tony Prior
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From: Charlotte NC

posted 24 June 2006 05:48 AM     profile     
I have the 50 #1's CD..

I don't think there are 50 #1's on that CD.

I like GS a lot, but I also tend to agree that much of the music is similar and the songs can be defined as a continuation of the last song we heard.

The formula is correct though and I'm fine with it. I have learned many things by listening to and playing GS tunes .

t

Marlin Smoot
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From: Atlanta,Georgia, USA

posted 24 June 2006 06:26 AM     profile     
The way songs are considered #1 are from monitored stations from publications such as Billboard and Radio & Records, two of the most respected publications in the industry.

Songs are encoded...so a computer can pick up the spin on a monitored station (usually in the top 100 markets) The total spins are recorded. This method determines, each week where the top 40 (Radio & Records) or top 75 (Billboard) songs lands on the chart. There are rules and regs...too much detail to go into here but each publication can tell you how they do it.

Todays songs, on each chart, have a proven number of spins that classify them as such. Too much is riding on the success of a song from the sales perspective to the success or continued success of the artist including booking, concert sales, management etc...

The industry needed/demanded a better measurement system of the songs and charts for all commercial formats thus, the monitored system...viewed by industry experts as the best system to date. It has been used this way first by Billboard and then by Radio & Records. It has been used for nearly 15 years now.

Erv Niehaus
Member

From: Litchfield, MN, USA

posted 24 June 2006 07:14 AM     profile     
George Jones has a CD out with HIS choice of songs from his 50 YEARS in the business. They aren't necessarily his no. 1 hits, it's the songs that HE liked best. Good record!
Theresa Galbraith
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From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA

posted 24 June 2006 01:56 PM     profile     
It's hard to believe you guys would say negative remarks about a true country artist like George.
Mike Winter
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From: Oregon City, Oregon, USA

posted 24 June 2006 03:52 PM     profile     
George is a true country legend, no doubt about it...been around a long time. I love a lot of his early stuff...some really great songs. (Like b0b, I don't really see the need for a CD of #1 hits...it is sort of meaningless, since mainstream hits and stars are manufactured by the corporate machine.

Willie was mentioned, and bashed. Different strokes for different folks. They're so different. George made his mark staying within a (safe) formula that worked for him. Willie made a mark as a great songwriter who wasn't afraid to stretch a bit. I just wish he had used steel on the bulk of his work, like George did. Historically, I think Willie will get the bigger nod overall...long hair and all...which bothers some people to the point of having a spasm. Willie will get the obligatory nod from Nashville, like Johnny, Waylon and others who sought to work outside the system. My opinion of course.

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Bo Borland
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From: Cowtown NJ

posted 24 June 2006 04:51 PM     profile     
i am with you Theresa, my mind is totally boggled
Larry Robbins
Member

From: Fort Edward, New York, USA

posted 24 June 2006 05:22 PM     profile     
Gotta Like ol George. Stays true to his roots, a real cowboy, allways uses a steel in his band, and what a band it is! All pro all the way... He shows up on time, clean and sober, never cuss's on stage and you sure get your moneys worth at a George Strait show.our band sure seems to cover a whole bunch of his tunes, and I bet most of you other bands do as well...Thanks George!!
Roger Rettig
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From: NAPLES, FL

posted 25 June 2006 05:37 AM     profile     
He's so bland, though! I hate formulaic record-making!!!

He does have a good band - sort-of like Ricky Nelson in the '50s... not much of a voice, but a great band.

Strait sounds pathetic when compared to the worst Merle Haggard record.

RR

Erv Niehaus
Member

From: Litchfield, MN, USA

posted 25 June 2006 06:40 AM     profile     
Roger,
May the bird of paradise fly up your nose,

may an elephant caress you with his toes

and may your wife be plagued with runners in

her hose!!!!

For shame!

[This message was edited by Erv Niehaus on 25 June 2006 at 06:41 AM.]

retcop88
unregistered
posted 25 June 2006 06:53 AM           
Like him or not he filled a Tampa football stadium and many others last year. #1s may be #2s nowadays but George still remains George and has several people finding places where his money should be piled. He also is one guy who does not have to pretend to be Country to sell records by wearing a Cowboy hat.

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Jesse Pearson
Member

From: San Diego , CA

posted 25 June 2006 09:51 AM     profile     
Somebody's high?
Kenny Burford
Member

From: Lexington, Missouri USA

posted 25 June 2006 10:18 AM     profile     
IMO George Strait may well be the number one class act of country music for all time and definitely the number one act from my generation of country music performers. Although I don’t know a great deal about him I have managed to keep track of a few highlights of his career that I find to be amazing.

Professional Loyalty - It is my understanding that Dean Dillon penned George’s first hit song that he recorded and it is my understanding that George has included one or more of Dillon’s songs on every album he has released since. It is also my understanding that there several members of his tour band that go back to the time when he was playing before his being signed to the MCA label. And if Erv Woolsey is still his manager then I would say George is three for three in this department.

Fan Loyalty – I have never heard of George Strait getting up on stage too drunk or drugged up to perform. I have never heard of him not being neat and clean for a performance, nor have I ever heard of him shouting profanities over the microphones at the crowd.

Like said I don’t know a great deal about George Strait, but I do remember back in around 1983 or 1984 he and his wife lost their only daughter in an automobile accident. I never heard or saw him in the media venting his anger or sorrow, nor did I hear of him seeking sympathy from his fans at concerts.

I am also impressed with the respect he has always shown toward Frank Sinatra. And like others have previously stated whenever he is interviewed he comes across as a down to Earth and humble individual.

His song selection may not always be to my choosing, but we are in agreement about 96 to 98 percent of the time on the songs he chooses to record. With my personal favorites being:

The King of Broken Hearts
She’ll Walk Away One Step at a Time

I’ll never get the call to go to work for George Strait, but if I did I would jump at the chance in a New York Minute.

I am 54 years old and I believe that George is the same age. Personally it makes me proud to know that someone from my age group is the one setting the bar when it comes to record sales and airplay in country music.

[This message was edited by Kenny Burford on 25 June 2006 at 10:21 AM.]

Erv Niehaus
Member

From: Litchfield, MN, USA

posted 25 June 2006 12:39 PM     profile     
It's kind of interesting to note that the "Ace in the Hole" band preceeded George. They were giving auditions for a singer and George applied. Also, in the early days of his career, he just about gave up his singing career and decided he'd just stick to ranching and rodeoing. It was his wife who convinced him to stick it out a while longer.
A word to the wise, you deriders of George better not go to the heart of Texas, between Austin and San Antonio, and spout out about George. They wouldn't take it too kindly!
Larry Robbins
Member

From: Fort Edward, New York, USA

posted 25 June 2006 02:06 PM     profile     


Heres OL' George back a "while ago"

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[This message was edited by Larry Robbins on 25 June 2006 at 02:08 PM.]

Jim Phelps
Member

From: just out of Mexico City

posted 25 June 2006 06:59 PM     profile     
With a guitarist playing a Les Paul too..... isn't that some kind of heresy in "real country music"?
Roger Rettig
Member

From: NAPLES, FL

posted 25 June 2006 10:54 PM     profile     
I'm sorry, guys - just because someone turns up sober and doesn't insult his audience, it doesn't make him a great singer.

When these are the criteria that define 'greatness', then we're in worse trouble than I thought!

RR
(The Rolling Stones can fill up a stadium, too - but I wouldn't cross the street to see them either.)

Alvin Blaine
Member

From: Sandy Valley, Nevada, USA

posted 26 June 2006 04:43 AM     profile     
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quote:Can anyone recall another singer with over 50 #1's ?

If I'm not mistaken, both Conway Twitty and Merle Haggard topped 50 #1's. I think Conway might have edged Merle by 1, but Hag's still recording. By nown, George must surely be the all-time leader in that category, or will be soon.


Conway Twitty has 41 #1 Billboard hit records(tied with the group "Alabama"), and Merle Haggard has had 38 #1 records.

For years Conway was the leader of single artist with the most #1 hit songs. That ended about five years ago, and now George Strait has had ten more number one hits than Conway.

Steve Hinson
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From: Hendersonville Tn USA

posted 26 June 2006 04:48 AM     profile     
That stage has cinder blocks under it...just like the Camaros in my yard...

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Jesse Pearson
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From: San Diego , CA

posted 26 June 2006 06:45 AM     profile     
Funny thing about chicken **** Roger, you know that white speck at the top? Well boy, you take away that dark stuff underneath and you know what, ya still got chicken ****.
Tony Prior
Member

From: Charlotte NC

posted 26 June 2006 06:48 AM     profile     
Steve, good eye !

and the stage has 1 light bulb too...

just like my music room !

Theresa Galbraith
Member

From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA

posted 26 June 2006 07:08 AM     profile     
Roger,
I guess you've never been to one of George's concerts to hear how in tune he sings. He sings hit after hit while the audience screams. Those #1's are pretty meaningful to him and his fans!

Go King George!

Roger Rettig
Member

From: NAPLES, FL

posted 26 June 2006 08:13 AM     profile     
No, Theresa, I haven't. There's nothing on his recordings that makes me want to, either.

Don't misunderstand me, I don't think he's bad, just mediocre. Sure, he seems to sing in tune, but that, for me, falls under the heading of what I'd expect from a professional singer - just like the sobriety issue.

It's not enough for me that a singer constantly uses a steel guitarist, either - that's his choice and I'm pleased for the guy that gets the resulting work, but it STILL doesn't make him a great singer.

The singers I admire are the ones with good chops - just like the musicians I look up to. Really good singers are a rare breed. Popular singers are a bit more commonplace.

RR

Jesse: I'm a bit slow this morning, but I don't get your point; are you agreeing with me or not?

Ken Thompson
Member

From: Great Falls, Montana, USA

posted 26 June 2006 08:27 AM     profile     
Kenny Burford, wow, you said everything I would have said only better. In addition, your favorite GS songs are the same as mine, we are the same age and have the same name. Scary.

Brett Day
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From: Greer, SC, USA

posted 26 June 2006 08:41 AM     profile     
I'm a huge fan of George Strait's music. I remember the first time I heard "The Chair" and "Amarillo By Morning". On George's live CD and DVD, when he introduces his band, he says, "Over here on my right, playing the steel guitar, Mike Daily". Mike is the first band member he introduces. It's amazing how many number one songs George's had in his career. I also like how Paul Franklin plays on George's records. Brett, Emmons S-10, Morrell lapsteel, GFI Ultra D-10
Bill McCloskey
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From:

posted 26 June 2006 11:21 AM     profile     
Well, this certainly generated many more interesting responses than I was expecting. Thanks to everyone for contributing to this thread and expressing your opinion. It was amazingly civil.
Jim Cohen
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From: Philadelphia, PA

posted 26 June 2006 11:26 AM     profile     
That's only cuz no one yet figured out how to segue from George Strait to the Dixie Chicks...
Bill McCloskey
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From:

posted 26 June 2006 11:29 AM     profile     
Opps. I think you just did Jim.
Michael Johnstone
Member

From: Sylmar,Ca. USA

posted 26 June 2006 12:32 PM     profile     
I got nothing against Strait and his success but I guess I just played "The Chair" and "Amarillo by Morning" a couple thousand times too many in beer joints to ever want to hear them again.And I played with lotsa bar band singers who were about that good or a helluva lot better - Dale Watson for one.I did like "King of Broken Hearts" but of course that's a cover of Jim Lauterdale who sang it first,much better and also wrote it. Which points up the fact that Strait is a POPULAR singer and Jim Lauterdale is a truly GREAT singer AND a GREAT songwriter.
Buddy Miller - same deal and as country as it gets. Some folks like oatmeal and others prefer gumbo I reckon. -MJ-
retcop88
unregistered
posted 26 June 2006 12:41 PM           
Hey Roger! You don't have to waste anytime crossing the street for the Stones or Strait. SOLD OUT.

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Kenny Burford
Member

From: Lexington, Missouri USA

posted 26 June 2006 01:50 PM     profile     
I guess what I should ask is, Roger who do you consider being great singers in country music? I know who my list is comprised of, but maybe it would be more pertinent to know who consider being best singers in country music. If you list Rockin' Sydney or some others of his caliber I won't consider your list valid.
Kenny Burford
Member

From: Lexington, Missouri USA

posted 26 June 2006 01:58 PM     profile     
As for Michael’s response about the talent of Dale Watson or Jim Lauterdale I would agree both men are super talented singers, but if I were going to clear off a portion of the airwaves to add a traditional country singer I wouldn’t do away with Strait, Chesnutt, or the others like them, I would hit the pop country singer list and get country radio back to being country radio again. Oops, now I did it, I have wicketed this subject off into a black-hole which if I am not careful will get this thread cancelled.

[This message was edited by Kenny Burford on 26 June 2006 at 01:59 PM.]

Lee Baucum
Member

From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) - The Final Frontier

posted 26 June 2006 02:30 PM     profile     
In this small part of the state of Texas, whenever we see that folks are a bit shy to take to the dance floor, all we have to do is play a couple of G.S. tunes and the dance floor gets packed.

(Off topic, but another thing that packs the dance floor is to play "I Fall To Pieces".

Lee, from South Texas

Theresa Galbraith
Member

From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA

posted 26 June 2006 02:30 PM     profile     
Roger,
"Strait sounds pathetic when compared to the worst Merle Haggard record".

That statement is Objective. George is far from pathetic or mediocre, so we can agree to disagree.

Erv Niehaus
Member

From: Litchfield, MN, USA

posted 26 June 2006 02:43 PM     profile     
Roger sounds like the kind of guy who would complain if he was hung with a new rope.

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