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Michael Dene
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From: Gippsland,Vic, Australia

posted 12 August 2006 03:40 PM     profile     
I'm in the process of arranging (or trying to) Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata for E9 PSG. When I dug out my old piano sheet music I found a huge Texta blob of ink over the start of Bar 21 !!!!!

It is in C# minor (4 sharps) which I think is the original key.

Can anyone who has a copy of this tell me what notes are in the 1st two triplets and the 1st melody note of bar 21. I can read the B's in the bass.

Thanks in advance
Michael

Mike Shefrin
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From: New York

posted 12 August 2006 03:52 PM     profile     
http://www.all-about-beethoven.com/beethovenmusicsheet.html
Michael Dene
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From: Gippsland,Vic, Australia

posted 12 August 2006 04:54 PM     profile     
Thanks Mike

problem solved.

Michael Dene
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From: Gippsland,Vic, Australia

posted 12 August 2006 05:38 PM     profile     
In case anyone else follows the link ...

I just read through the bar in question and there's a misprint in Bar 21 (the one I was asking about!)

Both the G's should be naturals.

Michael

Mike Shefrin
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From: New York

posted 12 August 2006 06:26 PM     profile     
Are you sure those arent "blues notes" that Beethoven threw in?
Michael Dene
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From: Gippsland,Vic, Australia

posted 12 August 2006 06:42 PM     profile     
Either that .. or he was distracted by Mrs B. saying "Ludwig! don't forget to put out the garbage" ...
Mike Shefrin
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From: New York

posted 12 August 2006 07:19 PM     profile     
Charlie McDonald
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From: Lubbock, Texas, USA

posted 13 August 2006 04:57 AM     profile     
'Moonlight' is the true birth of the blues.
Mike Perlowin
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From: Los Angeles CA

posted 13 August 2006 06:21 AM     profile     
Classical music on a steel guitar?

Can't be done.

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Don Walters
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From: Regina, SK, Canada

posted 13 August 2006 08:33 AM     profile     
Mike, there's this guy in L.A. who has put out Stravinsky's Firebird Suite and ...

that's a hint for the newbies in here who might be interested

check here

[This message was edited by Don Walters on 13 August 2006 at 08:35 AM.]

Michael Dene
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From: Gippsland,Vic, Australia

posted 13 August 2006 03:14 PM     profile     
Mike P,

gee thanks for pointing that out!!!!

think of the time I might have wasted!!!

Michael

ps next someone will have to try L Bernstein.

David Doggett
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From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

posted 13 August 2006 09:35 PM     profile     
I'll be interested to see Michael's tab for Moonlight Sonata. I've been hearing that on steel in my head for a long time. Here's the problem I have noticed about trying to arrange classical music for steel - it is very difficult to work in a good bass line on solo steel. That shouldn't be surprising. There is almost no completely solo classical music written, except for piano - and piano has two hands. So for many pieces, it is probably too much to expect a good melody line, with harmony, and a good bass line. For recording, you can dub the bass line on steel, or add a real bass, or maybe a keyboard bass line. But a lot of great classical pieces, especially piano pieces, are going to be really tough to do completely solo on steel. You can reach down with you thumb and grab some bass notes, especially on a 12- or 14-string. But because steel is set up to play chords, it is a real challenge to keep the melody and harmony going on the top strings and also have true chromatic possibilities in the bass line. It's a funny challenge. A steel can do much more than a solo violin (at least in terms of harmony and bass). But a lot less than a solo piano.
David Doggett
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From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

posted 13 August 2006 09:41 PM     profile     
Oh wait, maybe this is the answer: http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum10/HTML/201931.html.
Um...maybe not.

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Mike Perlowin
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From: Los Angeles CA

posted 14 August 2006 02:49 AM     profile     
quote:
...a lot of great classical pieces, especially piano pieces, are going to be really tough to do completely solo on steel.

Why play them solo? The steel is a band instrument, and most classical music was written for some sort of ensemble.

If play country music, chances are you play in a band. If you're going to play classical, it males sense to also play in a band, although a very different type.

My fantasy band would consist of a bass, a pedal harp, me, a guitarist, and a mandolin player.

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David Doggett
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From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

posted 14 August 2006 06:54 AM     profile     
That's the same point I am trying to make, Mike. We shouldn't be too frustrated if we can't get a complete classical piano sonato arrangement on solo steel, much less orchestral scores. We should add accompaniment when needed.

[This message was edited by David Doggett on 14 August 2006 at 06:55 AM.]

Roy Thomson
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From: Wolfville, Nova Scotia,Canada

posted 14 August 2006 09:13 AM     profile     
There are some great Classical Guitar arrangements out there which have been performed by Christofer Parkinson, Julian Bream, Segovia, John Williams etc.
In some cases they have transcribed the
music of the masters for Classical Guitar.
That's the music I work with for classical melodies. Much easier than piano music....
by far.
Mike Shefrin
Member

From: New York

posted 14 August 2006 11:49 AM     profile     
Roy, I'm gonna be a fuddy duddy and correct your spelling. It's Christopher Parkening.

[This message was edited by Mike Shefrin on 14 August 2006 at 11:51 AM.]

Roy Thomson
Member

From: Wolfville, Nova Scotia,Canada

posted 14 August 2006 12:58 PM     profile     
I'm glad you did Mike!
I was way off the mark.
Christopher is one of the
most magnificant guitarists
of our time or any time and
deserves the correction.
Many thanks.

Roy

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