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Kenny Burford Member From: Lexington, Missouri USA |
posted 13 October 2006 01:16 PM
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Ok, I realize that the article I am quoting is a little past date and that this is a steel guitar form, not a six stringer form, but there are lots of steelers that began as six string players, so I am using this as my springboard for the following: The August 27, 2003 issue of Rolling Stone magazine made up a list of "The 100 Greatest Guitar Players of All Times," and failed include Chet Atkins, Jerry Reed, Joe Pass, Jimmy Bryant or Brent Mason. I realize that my list is short, but I was rather taken back with some of their selections, maybe it would have been better titled if it was "Top 100 Rockin' Roll Guitarist of All Times." Am I the last on the block to see this list and am I the only one that thinks Rolling Stone's list of The Top 100 Guitarist of all Times is seriously flawed? |
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Jim Cohen Member From: Philadelphia, PA |
posted 13 October 2006 01:19 PM
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Yeah. I'll bet they even left off Segovia. Sheesh! |
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Kenny Burford Member From: Lexington, Missouri USA |
posted 13 October 2006 01:30 PM
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Point well taken, a great guitarist I didn't even consider. |
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Rick McDuffie Member From: Smithfield, North Carolina, USA |
posted 13 October 2006 02:19 PM
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At least I'm in good company. |
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Doug Beaumier Member From: Northampton, MA |
posted 13 October 2006 02:20 PM
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…guess who made #97 ?? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Robert Randolph! ------------------ [This message was edited by Doug Beaumier on 13 October 2006 at 02:23 PM.] |
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Mike Perlowin Member From: Los Angeles CA |
posted 13 October 2006 02:31 PM
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I'd be surprised if any of the following made the list. Grady Martin
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Mark Eaton Member From: Windsor, Sonoma County, CA |
posted 13 October 2006 03:11 PM
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They didn't literally use the term "Rock" guitarists in the title, but I think that was implied-especially since Hendrix was on the cover-and it is the Rolling Stone afterall, which despite its multi-faceted coverage over the decades, is still primarily a magazine about rock music. I would have to give the Rolling Stone staff enough credit that they are well aware that, for example, Chet Atkins is one of the greatest guitarists to ever strum a chord. Even though Chet could cross any musical boundary if he felt like, since one has to categorize in these "greatest" articles, Chet is first and foremost recognized as a country guitarist. And yes, I'm aware that James Burton was included in the article, but I would owe that to his work with folks like Elvis and Rick Nelson. ------------------ [This message was edited by Mark Eaton on 13 October 2006 at 03:18 PM.] [This message was edited by Mark Eaton on 13 October 2006 at 03:20 PM.] |
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Mike Shefrin Member From: New York |
posted 13 October 2006 03:36 PM
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Clearly the only people who know anything about the guitar are ultimately always guitarists themselves. I'm surprised they included Bert Jansch who is a wonderful and brilliant guitarist,singer songwriter but is definitely not a rock player at all. [This message was edited by Mike Shefrin on 13 October 2006 at 05:21 PM.] |
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David Doggett Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA |
posted 13 October 2006 03:43 PM
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I'm with Mark - it's a rock magazine and staff. Over the years they have had many 100 greatest lists (singers, artists, songwriters, groups, songs, albums, whatever). They are always very heavily influenced by the trend of the moment. Even when they have the same list a decade apart, the lists are drastically different, even though the greats of all time couldn't have changed much in a decade. What those lists really are are the current RS staff's favorites. I never read any more into them than that.  |
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Earnest Bovine Member From: Los Angeles CA USA |
posted 13 October 2006 03:48 PM
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1 Jimi Hendrix 2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band 3 B.B. King 4 Eric Clapton 5 Robert Johnson 6 Chuck Berry 7 Stevie Ray Vaughan 8 Ry Cooder 9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin 10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones 11Kirk Hammett of Metallica 12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana 13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead 14 Jeff Beck 15 Carlos Santana 16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones 17 Jack White of the White Stripes 18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers 19 Richard Thompson 20 James Burton 21 George Harrison 22 Mike Bloomfield 23 Warren Haynes 24 The Edge of U2 25 Freddy King 26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave 27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits 28 Stephen Stills 29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges 30 Buddy Guy 31 Dick Dale 32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service 33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth 35 John Fahey 36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's 37 Bo Diddley 38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac 39 Brian May of Queen 40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival 41 Clarence White of the Byrds 42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson 43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic 44 Scotty Moore 45 Frank Zappa 46 Les Paul 47 T-Bone Walker 48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith 49 John McLaughlin 50 Pete Townshend 51 Paul Kossoff of Free 52 Lou Reed 53 Mickey Baker 54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane 55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple 56 Tom Verlaine of Television 57 Roy Buchanan 58 Dickey Betts 59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead 61 Ike Turner 62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band 63 Danny Gatton 64 Mick Ronson 65 Hubert Sumlin 66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour 67 Link Wray 68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape 69 Steve Howe of Yes 70 Eddie Van Halen 71 Lightnin' Hopkins 72 Joni Mitchell 73 Trey Anastasio of Phish 74 Johnny Winter 75 Adam Jones of Tool 76 Ali Farka Toure 77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat 78 Robbie Robertson of the Band 79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997) 80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids 81 Derek Trucks 82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd 83 Neil Young 84 Eddie Cochran 85 Randy Rhoads 86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath 87 Joan Jett 88 Dave Davies of the Kinks 89 D. Boon of the Minutemen 90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper 91 Robby Krieger of the Doors 92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5 94 Bert Jansch 95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine 96 Angus Young of AC/DC 97 Robert Randolph 98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer 99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag 100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden |
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James Cann Member From: Phoenix, AZ (heart still in Boston) |
posted 13 October 2006 08:01 PM
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What, no Alberts, Lee or Collins? Bogus List! |
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Colm Chomicky Member From: Prairie Village, Kansas, USA |
posted 13 October 2006 08:31 PM
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Something I learned from a former President-- it all depends on the definition. So really depends on what the defintion of greatest is, just like it depends on what the definition of is is. |
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Rick Collins Member From: Claremont , CA USA |
posted 13 October 2006 09:21 PM
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Is this not the list of those most likely to be attacked by a pack of drug-sniffing dogs? But, do you mean Keith Richards is not #1? |
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Kenny Burford Member From: Lexington, Missouri USA |
posted 14 October 2006 03:26 PM
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Ok, if it's just R&R guitarist IMO it should so be stated, and Hank Garland should have been on the list, he played for Elvis. He was an incredible player all the way round. I just want to see other player's responses on the issue. [This message was edited by Kenny Burford on 14 October 2006 at 03:26 PM.] |
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CHIP FOSSA Member From: Monson, MA 01057 U.S.A. |
posted 14 October 2006 04:09 PM
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Lou Reed? I never knew he played guitar. I thought he was just the lead singer for the Velvet Underground. I've never seen pics of him with a guitar in his hands. What about... Paul Simon Well, I'll call it quits for now. Half those folks on that list I hardly know of or never heard or even listened to. So, I guess I'm a bit biased here... |
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Chris LeDrew Member From: Newfoundland, Canada |
posted 14 October 2006 04:25 PM
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This is a list of the 100 "most popular" guitarists of all-time. Obscure names like Jimmy Bryant (one of my faves) and Hank Garland do not sell magazines. |
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ebb Member From: nj |
posted 14 October 2006 04:32 PM
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from the ny times http://www.scaruffi.com/music/guitar.html |
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Dave Mudgett Member From: Central Pennsylvania, USA |
posted 14 October 2006 07:43 PM
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quote: Not by any rational standard. Every guitar or popular music rag has these lists, and are rarely relevant, IMO. They're usually to give some "reader participation", i.e., a sales promotion technique. |
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John P.Phillips Member From: Brunswick, Ga. U.S.A. |
posted 14 October 2006 09:09 PM
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HOWARD ROBERTS must be spinning in his grave ! ------------------ |
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Jim Cohen Member From: Philadelphia, PA |
posted 14 October 2006 09:31 PM
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After reading THIS article, I gotta vote for: Tommy Tedesco! CLICK HERE [This message was edited by Jim Cohen on 14 October 2006 at 09:32 PM.] |
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Roger Rettig Member From: NAPLES, FL |
posted 15 October 2006 04:01 AM
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That was a great 'read'. Very well written. Thanks, Jim |
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James Cann Member From: Phoenix, AZ (heart still in Boston) |
posted 15 October 2006 03:37 PM
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quote: Well said, Chip. I'd have said this had I thought of it. |
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Stephan Miller Member From: Silver Spring, Maryland, USA |
posted 15 October 2006 06:24 PM
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I'm surprised they left off Nigel Tufnel. |
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Mark Eaton Member From: Windsor, Sonoma County, CA |
posted 16 October 2006 04:17 PM
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"This is a list of the 100 "most popular" guitarists of all-time. Obscure names like Jimmy Bryant (one of my faves) and Hank Garland do not sell magazines." I don't know about anyones else here-but when I bought that issue when it came out, it sure wasn't to read about, for one example, Robert Quine of the Voidoids, ranked #80. (?) Jimmy Bryant and Hank Garland strike me as being positively household words compared to that! And you need to keep your salt shaker handy for lots of grains of salt-jack White seems like a decent guitar player-but what business does he have being 10 spots ahead of Mark Knopfler? Is it possible for anyone to be 10 spots ahead of Mark Knopfler? Is it ridiculous to rank guitarists? ------------------ [This message was edited by Mark Eaton on 16 October 2006 at 04:22 PM.] |
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Keith Cordell Member From: Atlanta |
posted 16 October 2006 04:25 PM
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Robert Quine was a very influential guitarist, but the overlooked reality here is that this is Rolling Stone- they cater to the current rock listener, and the contributors and voters that participated made the list. I am sure that if Guitar Player did the same list it would be substantially different. But many of hte players you might think of as obscure, like Richard Lloyd or Tom Verlaine, R. Quine or Robert Fripp may seem a bit off base but you have to have been listening for the last 2 decades- the 80's and '90's- to know about many of these guys. |
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Mark Eaton Member From: Windsor, Sonoma County, CA |
posted 16 October 2006 04:38 PM
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I certainly have heard of Quine, and I have a friend who is a big Lou Reed guy that speaks of Quine (I believe he also played with Reed for awhile)-but I guess this helps to reinforce that it wasn't a popularity contest to sell the magazine, except for the obvious presence of Jimi on the cover. ------------------ |
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Terry Edwards Member From: Layton, UT |
posted 16 October 2006 06:37 PM
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I can't believe Esteban is not on that list!!!!!! |
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Fred Shannon Member From: Rocking "S" Ranch, Comancheria, Texas |
posted 16 October 2006 07:45 PM
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Anyone care to expound on the definition of "Guitarist". I guess I missed something. The only Rolling Stone I ever payed any attention to anyway was the one Dr. Hook sang---something about "the cover----". Phred ------------------ [This message was edited by Fred Shannon on 16 October 2006 at 07:45 PM.] |
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Mike Shefrin Member From: New York |
posted 16 October 2006 07:54 PM
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quote: me too. [This message was edited by Mike Shefrin on 10 November 2006 at 05:17 PM.] |
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Jim Cohen Member From: Philadelphia, PA |
posted 16 October 2006 08:10 PM
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Is he that guy who sells $100 guitars on late-night TV? |
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Webb Kline Member From: Bloomsburg, PA |
posted 16 October 2006 09:30 PM
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Even the order of the ones who made it is laughable. Considering the source, why should I be surprised? |
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David L. Donald Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand |
posted 16 October 2006 09:51 PM
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Jack White, but no Larry Coryel Kurt Cobain but no John Abercrombie Johnny Ramone, but no Adrian Belew Who the heck is Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps???? Neil Young???? I love Neil, but not as a picker. Julian Bream anyone! Larry Carlton And let's not forget As original and facile a guitarist as one can imagine. No one every sounded like him. [This message was edited by David L. Donald on 16 October 2006 at 09:52 PM.] |
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Alvin Blaine Member From: Sandy Valley, Nevada, USA |
posted 17 October 2006 12:25 AM
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quote: Cliff Gallup is on MY top 20 list just for his intro on "Race with the Devil" and his solo on "Be Bop A Lula". Billy Gibbons from ZZ Top would also be on MY list, and he didn't make the Rolling Stone list. |
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Mark Eaton Member From: Windsor, Sonoma County, CA |
posted 17 October 2006 03:08 AM
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Rock guitarists, David, rock guitarists. You are mentioning some jazz guitarists in your post that weren't on the list...see my post earlier in the thread. Carlton, Ritenour, Abercrombie, Pass... ------------------ [This message was edited by Mark Eaton on 17 October 2006 at 03:11 AM.] |
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Jim Cohen Member From: Philadelphia, PA |
posted 17 October 2006 04:44 AM
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I would have thought a Rock list would include Yngwe Malmstein, no? (Not my own opinion, but I thought he was supposed to be a big deal) |
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Mike Shefrin Member From: New York |
posted 17 October 2006 05:34 AM
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quote: Yes Jim. [This message was edited by Mike Shefrin on 10 November 2006 at 05:19 PM.] |
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David L. Donald Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand |
posted 17 October 2006 05:54 AM
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Mark I saw quote: Seems pretty all inclusive, John MacGlaughlin IS on the list. And since I believe he and Jimi were rehearsing an album together [This message was edited by David L. Donald on 17 October 2006 at 05:57 AM.] |
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Webb Kline Member From: Bloomsburg, PA |
posted 17 October 2006 06:10 AM
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David, that's what i was thinking. Really McLaughlin upstaged by some of the buffoons listed on there? |
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Roger Rettig Member From: NAPLES, FL |
posted 17 October 2006 06:38 AM
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Cliff Gallup - groundbreaking player! Albert Lee used to say that he developed his chops trying to emulate the solos from Gene Vincent records. The solo from 'Blue Jean Bop' is a bit of a challenge, too! This list is way too subjective, obviously, but can I toss Bobby Gibbons into the mix? Great LA studio guy from the '50s.... We'd need a 'top 1000' to cover all bases! RR |
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Mark Eaton Member From: Windsor, Sonoma County, CA |
posted 17 October 2006 08:10 AM
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David-that's true-but when you think of McLaughlin, in a context which relates to rock, you also think of his association with Santana, as in the Devadip Carlos Santana era. So John M's association with Jimi, and later Carlos Santana, not to mention his playing on Miles Davis Bitches Brew, which was probably one of the first albums that became a big seller that encompassed jazz rock fusion. Everytime there is a thread like this on a discussion board, it always opens up the can of worms of folks naming off additional worthy favorites. Remember, in my my earlier post, I used the word "implied" as to the list's rock content, if one were taking the all-inclusive aspect literally, then it goes without saying that Chet Atkins should be on there, at or near the very top. Shoot-I never worked for Rolling Stone, so I have no clue what their frame of reference was, but one would have to believe that the list centers around rock. ------------------ [This message was edited by Mark Eaton on 17 October 2006 at 08:49 AM.] [This message was edited by Mark Eaton on 18 October 2006 at 02:12 PM.] |
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