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Mike Perlowin
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From: Los Angeles CA

posted 27 October 2006 10:18 AM     profile     
I saw this last night on cable. Now I have to admit, I don't care for that 40's big band Sinatra style of music (complete with tap dancing) and when i was a kid, I resented Bobby Darin for abandoning rock and roll and playing what I considered to be "the enemy."

But this is a terrific movie. Keven Spacey did an amazing job. He wrote, produced, and directed it as well as stard in it, and he did all his own singing.

This is not my (and probably your) kind of music, but the film is so good it doesn't matter. It's a wonderful movie, and it deserves to be seen.

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Chris LeDrew
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From: Newfoundland, Canada

posted 27 October 2006 11:09 AM     profile     
Excellent movie.
Andy Sandoval
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From: Bakersfield, California, USA

posted 27 October 2006 12:52 PM     profile     
Great movie, it prompted me to learn "beyond the sea" on lap steel.
Darryl Hattenhauer
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From: Phoenix, Arizona, USA

posted 27 October 2006 02:14 PM     profile     
Mike,

When I was in grammar school, the old-maid school marm asked us to bring our records to school. So one by one, the kids were playing "Mary Had a Little Lamb," etc. Then I played one she hadn't heard: "Mack the Knife." She almost crapped. After that, she wouldn't let me play Ike and Tina's "It's Going To Work Out Fine."

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P Gleespen
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From: Lakewood, OH USA (I miss Boston!)

posted 27 October 2006 02:40 PM     profile     
I know this is going to make me sound like an idiot (not that THAT's hard to do) but here goes:

Bobby Darin played rock? I did not know that. That is weird wild stuff. What sort of rock are we talking about here? Elvisy? Pat Boone-like? Fabianish?

Matt Rhodes
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From: Houston, Texas, USA

posted 27 October 2006 02:46 PM     profile     
All I know is that Bobby Darin wore cool shirts in the early-to-mid-70's. Did you see the long sleeve tropical sunset shirt Spacey had on at one of the live shows during the scene from that era?

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Mike Perlowin
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From: Los Angeles CA

posted 27 October 2006 03:53 PM     profile     
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Bobby Darin played rock? I did not know that.

Bobby darin started off as a rock singer and teen idol in the American bandstand circuit. Before he did Mack the Knife. he had few rock hits. Splish Splash, Queen of the Hop (I think) and Dream Lover, which is actually a prewtty good song.

Dick Clark tells of how he tried to talk Darin out of releasing Mack The Knife, saying that he (Darin) was a rock singer shouldn't do more mature material (which is exactly how I, being 12 or 13 years old, felt at the time.)

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Michael Johnstone
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From: Sylmar,Ca. USA

posted 27 October 2006 05:28 PM     profile     
The first Bobby Darin record I ever bought was in 1957 - "Early In The Morning" by "The Rinky Dinks featuring Bobby Darin" It was a 50s Fats Domino style rock track with rock/gospel vocals. A little later in 1958 he went solo and put out "Splish Splash". 1959s "Bullmoose" is another great R&R record w/a New Orleans groove to it but the B-side, "Dream Lover" w/its' ice cream changes and faux-calypso beat proved to be the chart hit. After that,it was big band Sinatra type stuff like "Beyond the Sea" and "Mack the Knife" which was from the musical play "Three Penny Opera" BTW.
Jussi Huhtakangas
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From: Helsinki, Finland

posted 28 October 2006 12:38 AM     profile     
Bobby Darin rocked hard. Often he's billed along with other teen-bobbys but the truth is everything else but that. I wish the movie had shown more of that side of Darin, not just a brief clip of recording Splish Splash. Nevertheless, I liked the movie and not least because of Kevin Spacey's singing.
Kevin Ruddell
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From: Toledo Ohio USA

posted 28 October 2006 03:22 AM     profile     
Bobby Darin's a fascinating character and there are several books out on him . Me And Bobby D. is by his former musical partner Steve Karmen about their first gig out of town at a mob nightclub in Dearborn Mich. that is briefly touched on in a scene the Spacey film. At first I thought this guys book was a pathetic attempt to make money off his 2 week engagement with Darin before getting dumped, but actually turned out to be really interesting. The guitar playing singer went back to New York with his tail between his legs but was fairly successful in the Big Apple as a white Calypso solo artist during the Belafonte boom before going on to becoming the most successful jingle writer of all time ( See The USA In A Chevrolet , Nationwide Is On Your Side etc. )

[This message was edited by Kevin Ruddell on 28 October 2006 at 03:32 AM.]

Charlie McDonald
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From: Lubbock, Texas, USA

posted 28 October 2006 05:54 AM     profile     
I dug Bobby Darin and the swing thing with Mack the Knife, Beyond the Sea, et.al. He was the anti-rebel, the guy with a good voice who wasn't afraid to draw on the good music and big-band arrangements of the previous decade.
Kevin Spacey is the best, and I'll be looking for this one.
George Redmon
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From:

posted 28 October 2006 05:15 PM     profile     
quote:
This is not my (and probably your) kind of music
it's my kind alright i love the big band music as much as i do jazz.

[This message was edited by George Redmon on 28 October 2006 at 05:18 PM.]

CHIP FOSSA
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From: Monson, MA 01057 U.S.A.

posted 28 October 2006 06:21 PM     profile     
Another Bobby Darin swing was when he caught onto Tim Hardin's music and did "If I Were A Carpenter". He did other Hardin songs, maybe "The Lady Came From Baltimore" and "Reason To Believe".

In Hardin's folkish vein, Bobby penned a great song, "A Simple Song Of Freedom", which Tim Hardin promptly recorded; and so the wheel keeps on turning.

We still do "Dream Lover". What's not to like about this song?

daynawills
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From: Sacramento, CA

posted 28 October 2006 07:10 PM     profile     
Chip,
I sing Dream Lover, too. Great tune. If any of you guys out there are "readers", I just finished a very interesting and informative book by Buddy Killen called "By the Seat of My Pants". Buddy owned Tree Publishing and was a bass player on the Opry. Now that's a good read.

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CHIP FOSSA
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From: Monson, MA 01057 U.S.A.

posted 28 October 2006 08:23 PM     profile     
^^
Jennings Ward
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From: Edgewater, Florida, USA

posted 29 October 2006 09:00 PM     profile     
MY PITTANCE WORTH::: TO MY OLD TIRED EARS,
DARRIN WAS THE BEST, HAD THE BEST VOICE, AND KNEW HOW TO USE IT CORECTLY, MORE THAN ANY ONE
THAT CAME OUT OF THAT ERA... PAT BOONE ALSO..
STILL LOVE THE PLATTERS, INK SPOTS, MILLS BROS. DEAN MARTIN, MARTY ROBINS, . LOVE TO TAKE THOSE OLD SONGS, AND DO THE UP WESTERN SWING STYLE, THOSE THAT WILL LEND THEMSELVES TO SUCH.... GREAT MUSIC WHEN DONE SWING STYLE... { NOW YOU ROCKES DONT STONE ME ]
JENNINGS,,,, U PK;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

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Chris L. Christensen
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From: Los Angeles, California, USA

posted 30 October 2006 06:41 AM     profile     
As fabulous as Bobby Darin was, I always thought he was under-rated. He really could do just about anything and any style of music. In addition to Rock and Pop, he put ouf folk, jazz and country albums. He seemed like a congenial and fun guy to be around as well, and one with a social conscience, too. He died at such a young age, 35 or thereabouts I believe. If he had lived longer who knows what else he would have done. The Spacey film was great and was overall a very nice tribute to Bobby. Rest in Peace, Bobby, we still love and appreciate you!
Billy Joe Bailey
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From: Jackson, Mississippi, USA

posted 30 October 2006 09:43 PM     profile     
I like Bobby alot His music also makes me think of another guy I love to liston to sing Dion with such songs as -- Dream Lover Where are you I got a gal and Ruby is her name -- and -- Run around Sue -- and Diane and --Born To Cry -- The Wanderer -- A teenager in love

As for Bobby my altime favorites would have to be Dream Lover and then Splish slash

[This message was edited by Billy Joe Bailey on 30 October 2006 at 09:50 PM.]

CHIP FOSSA
Member

From: Monson, MA 01057 U.S.A.

posted 31 October 2006 03:42 AM     profile     
Yeah Billy..."I Wonder Why" and "Where or When"
are a couple other fab Dion & The Belmonts hit-o-ramas.
Whoops, sorry...let's stay with Mr Darin.

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