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Darryl Hattenhauer Member From: Phoenix, Arizona, USA |
![]() http://www.dxlt.net/hammer Lem, this stuff is gooooood. Way back, this would have been a hit. But what the heck are "STEPDECTS, TO HOTSHOTS AND DOUBLE DROPS"? Jeff, Everybody here has mentioned my old favorites. I just hadn't noticed that they don't get on the radio anymore. Webb, Webb (or anybody) can you tell me what kind of transmissions and rear ends they used on that incredible load, and what gear they were in at 7 mph? ------------------ |
Lem Smith Member From: Fulton, MS. U.S.A. |
![]() Darryl, I'm not a truck driver myself, so I don't know all about it, but a "Hotshot" is smaller, like a dually pickup pulling something like a 40 foot trailer, not a full blown "big rig". I think a step deck is just a trailer that has a step up toward the front of it. |
Darryl Hattenhauer Member From: Phoenix, Arizona, USA |
![]() Lem, I'm way behind the times. I remember when 40 feet was the longest trailer, and Cummins made a 220 horse engine. I suppose those 2-cycle V8 GMCs aren't made anymore. I hope not. ------------------ |
Gabriel Stutz Member From: Chicago, USA |
![]() I recently started playing with a band called the Gin Palace Jesters, and they still write trucker songs. I really love playing those tunes on steel. Gabriel |
Mark Edwards Member From: Weatherford,Texas, USA |
![]() I think they have gone from prison, trains, drinking and trucks to ebay, internet, ipod! Times are a changing and not for the better, but just hang on it will all come around again. Just the other day my daughter and I were driving down the road listening to her music on the radio, a song came on that was originaly done back in the 70's, my daughter looked at me and said dad check out this new song. I had to explain to her that it is a remake of an old tune. She didn't believe me. |
Webb Kline Member From: Bloomsburg, PA |
![]() Darryl, that's a long time ago. Trailers went to 45 ft, then 48 ft and then 53 ft. Some places in the midwest allow 57 footers. They all went from 96" wide to 108" too. My first truck was a 64 Emeryville cabover with a 220 Cummins (Come-along. GM diesel became Detroit back in, ummm....I'm thinkin' early 70's. They almost went bankrupt until they came out with the 4 cycle engine back in the mid to late 80's. Now they have a good engine. I used to have a 2 cycle 238 hp 671 Detroit on my sawmill. Like all Detroits, it leaked oil so bad that I never had to buy oil to lubricate the mill--just kept a couple of cans under the engine. Lem, you're right about the stepdeck and hotshots. Stepdecks are also called dropdecks. Double-drop means just that--the low deck is twice as low as a conventional stepdeck. SOme call it a lowboy, but some lowboys are RGN's which means removable gooseneck--the front part stays on the 5th wheel and you can drive equipment on the front of the trailer and then hook it back up again. All that stuff's too much work for me anymore. [This message was edited by Webb Kline on 21 November 2006 at 02:07 PM.] |
Darryl Hattenhauer Member From: Phoenix, Arizona, USA |
![]() Webb, That sounds way to big. Maybe the safety records on the long trailers are ok. But 108 wide just doesn't sound right. It's interesting to know that Detroit finally went to 4-cycle. I couldn't believe it ages ago when somebody told me that there was a V8 2-cycle diesel. Are they all using that oil-against-the- flywheel engine brake that Cat invented? And what kind of mileage are they getting now? I remember when Cats got about 7 mpg, and Cummins and GMC about 4 mpg. ------------------ |
Tom Olson Member From: Spokane, WA |
![]() I agree that one reason you don't hear trucking songs any more is because trucking is sooo different than it was 30, 40 and 50 years ago. For one thing, in the 50's and 60's truck driving jobs paid a lot more (relative to the average wage) than they have paid for the last 30 years or so. This is because trucking used to be regulated by the Interstate Commerce Commission. That is, rates were set and only certain companies were allowed to haus certain freight certain places. Consequently, because of the higher pay back then, trucking was able to attract a higher caliber individual. Also, after WWII and the Korean conflict, a lot of ex-service men went into trucking. Nowadays, anyone can apply for and obtain (as long as you are fit) authority to haul anything anywhere. Another thing that's different is that the trucks and roads are so much different now. Back in the 40's 50's and 60's trucks didn't have power steering, or A/C, or radial tires, or air-ride suspension or halogen headlights, or self-adjusting brakes, or 500 hp engines, or semi-automatic transmissions, or air-dryers, or other such features that make driving nowadays a cinch compared to what it used to be. Also, roads, truckstops, regulations etc., were a lot different way back when. Driving from coast-to-coast on those old, narrow, twisting, steep two-lanes was a lot different than today's roads. Even the old, original interstate highways were a lot twistier, narrow and steeper than the newer rebuilt, regraded roads. In most areas of the country, truckstops were far and few between and those that were around were usually mom and pop types. Plus, with each state having its own set of laws, you pretty much had to have a law degree to figure out how to be legal. And, there were a lot more independent owner-operator truckers back then, both lease-operators and wildcatters. So, that's another reason why drivers used to be of a higher caliber individual. Nowadays, the highways are so wide, straight and gradual that you can pretty much drive anywhere without so much as shifting gears and you only need one registration and one fuel tax sticker. In other words, it was a lot more challenging than it is today. Also, remember -- only 50 years ago, there were only half the number of of people there are now in the U.S., and there were correspondingly fewer trucks on the road. Most of the drivers were white males. I'm not being racist here -- I'm only stating the truth. It was very unusual 40 years ago to even meet someone from the middle east living in the US, let along a middle-eastern truck driver. Now, as someone else stated above, there are a substantial number of foreign-born truckers out there on our roads. I have seen many eastern European drivers, middle eastern drivers, etc., who either didn't speak English or didn't want to speak English. Yet another reason for the lack of truck driving songs is that the music is different today. I guess that pretty much goes without saying. "Country" music is marketed to a much broader segment of the population today, and that segment is made of a very different demographic than in the old days. Anyhow, just my two cents.
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