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John McGann
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From: Boston, Massachusetts, USA

posted 05 November 2006 12:53 PM     profile     
Freddie Green of Count Basie fame- master of the one note chord!!

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Tommy White
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From: Hendersonville,Tn., U.S.A.

posted 05 November 2006 01:34 PM     profile     
Chord; a combination of three or more notes that blend harmoniously when sounded together.
John McGann
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From: Boston, Massachusetts, USA

posted 05 November 2006 01:38 PM     profile     
I knew someone would say that- all the better coming from a master musician...but I think it's semantics (I'm not anti-semantic)

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Can one note be a chord? Technically no, not in isolation, although in an ensemble it can certainly suggest or create chords in relation to the other instruments. I think what is meant when one hears reference to Green's 'one note chording' is that he would finger multiple note chords but often only sound the one note of the chord
that defined it or worked against the other instrument voicings."

The sound of the muted strings along with the one note that sounds, and the way the strings are attacked, is what makes it sound different than a single line backup.

quote from Freddie Green himself:

quote:
"I don't try to play those big 'concert' chords. I play just a couple of notes, sometimes just one, but it sets the sound of the chord. When you try to play those big chords, it can make the whole band drag."

[This message was edited by John McGann on 05 November 2006 at 02:28 PM.]

Ron Whitfield
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From: Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA

posted 05 November 2006 04:59 PM     profile     
Thanx for that, John.

One of the most under-appreciated guitarists.

Tommy White
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From: Hendersonville,Tn., U.S.A.

posted 05 November 2006 10:15 PM     profile     
John,
Makes sense to me. So,we have an accord.
Per Berner
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From: Skövde, Sweden

posted 05 November 2006 11:02 PM     profile     
...ah, those one-note chords - I know them all, in any position. If I could only figure out which ones go with which...

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Rick McDuffie
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From: Smithfield, North Carolina, USA

posted 06 November 2006 04:46 AM     profile     
It's hard to argue with Freddie Green.
John McGann
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From: Boston, Massachusetts, USA

posted 06 November 2006 05:51 AM     profile     
There's a great video of a small Count Basie band and Freddie seems to be using more 3 note chords...probably the single line concept is more in the big band setting.
Bill Hatcher
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From: Atlanta Ga. USA

posted 06 November 2006 07:00 AM     profile     
I just finished playing a week long run of a Broadway show with lots of big band stuff in it. On the charts was written "ala Freddie Green". His style and lore will be with us as along as arrangers write four slashes per bar on a guitar chart.

There were several time when the written part called for a big 5 note chord and I just played what Green is talking about. Grab one note and mute the rest in order to keep the big percussive "thump" and it sounded just fine.

I saw him play with the Basie band. No mic on the guitar in a large theater. Sounded great.

Dave Van Allen
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From: Doylestown, PA , US , Earth

posted 06 November 2006 07:39 AM     profile     
I got to see the Basie band shortly before the Count passed away... they played "Little Darlin'" featuring Freddie's big "solo debut"- which equalled the band playing the melody figure and FG arpeggiating a 4 note chord between phreases... what a hoot!

there is some more retentively thorough analysis (you can't spell analysis without 'a-n-a-l') of his technique at Freddie Green Website including a comparison to western swing rhythm chording...

[This message was edited by Dave Van Allen on 06 November 2006 at 07:40 AM.]

John McGann
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From: Boston, Massachusetts, USA

posted 06 November 2006 10:31 AM     profile     
I think that page is great, maybe I'm too retentive myself, but I think a guitarist who didn't know that stuff could get a lot of mileage from it...I loved learning that stuff and love how my students light up when they learn to do it...

[This message was edited by John McGann on 06 November 2006 at 10:32 AM.]

Mike Neer
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From: NJ

posted 06 November 2006 10:44 AM     profile     
From what I understand, Freddie always fingered the entire chord, but strategically put pressure on the one or 2 strings which would sound. As you know, his string height was greater than 1/2".

For my money, though, I don't think anyone could swing a band harder than Allan Reuss. It has been said that Green took some lessons from Reuss , who, incidentally, was a pupil of George Van Eps.

Need proof? Here he is in a small group setting with the Arnold Ross Quintet with Benny Carter on alto, playing "Bye Bye Blues".

[This message was edited by Mike Neer on 06 November 2006 at 10:45 AM.]

[This message was edited by Mike Neer on 06 November 2006 at 10:45 AM.]

John McGann
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From: Boston, Massachusetts, USA

posted 06 November 2006 10:58 AM     profile     
THANKS Mike!

It's so seamless how he folds back into the rhythm section with the brushes after his solo (nice solo too!)...and Benny Carter is as elegant as it gets. I've heard of Reuss but never heard him- great!

[This message was edited by John McGann on 06 November 2006 at 10:59 AM.]

Mike Shefrin
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From: New York

posted 06 November 2006 01:26 PM     profile     
It's nice to see someone posting about jazz guitar, no less, Freddie Green who no doubt is an important figure in the jazz guitar world.
Ive always thought that Freddie's playing in the Basie big band was an integral part of the Basie "sound". I always dug the way Freddie's comping added a specific color and rhythmic texture to the band's sound.
Andy Volk
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From: Boston, MA

posted 06 November 2006 02:19 PM     profile     
Jim Hall wrote he he wanted to make his driving like Freddie Green's guitar playing - no, not four tires on the road but only one rolling .... "When I was in my 20s, I tried to pattern my life after Freddie Green. During my hours on the road behind the wheel of the Jimmy Guiffre Three Volkswagen van, I used to think "How can I make my driving like Freddie Green's playing?" Comfortable, no bumps, pleasant."

Great clip, Mike! Alan Reuss was the stuff! He's been under appreciated. Barney Kessel said that whenever he played one of Alan's guitars it was immaculate and perfect. Check out this short clip of Reuss on "Rhythm, Rhythm" on the Classic Jazz guitar site: http://classicjazzguitar.com/albums/artist_album.jsp?album=437

And what can you say about Benny Carter? He is just a master at that kind of swingy arppegiated sax playing - heck, he invented it. There's a fantastic CD from the 70s on Pablo called Carter, Gilesspie & Co. where Dixz and Benny play their own styles but it all meshes beautifully.

[This message was edited by Andy Volk on 06 November 2006 at 04:46 PM.]

Bill Hatcher
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From: Atlanta Ga. USA

posted 06 November 2006 04:01 PM     profile     
Reuss was incredible. That clip represents an art of playing the guitar that is just about non existant. Masterful!
Les Anderson
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From: Rossland, BC, Canada

posted 06 November 2006 05:55 PM     profile     
How about single note harmonics as a background fill? I played with a church band that had me doing single note harmonics about 60% of the time.

(and no it was not because that was all I knew how to play

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Bobby Caldwell
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From: St. Louis, Missouri, USA

posted 07 November 2006 06:18 PM     profile     
I met and visited with Freddie Green one time at an airport waiting for a flight. What a nice man he was and I'll never forget that time. We talked music and somehow the subject got around to steel guitar. He looked at me and said "I really like that guy named Curly Chalker. He's swings". I was floored that he would have listened to Curly's music. Just goes to show you never know. Freddie Green and Homer Haynes were the best. It's a lost art. Bobby
Michael Johnstone
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From: Sylmar,Ca. USA

posted 07 November 2006 10:33 PM     profile     
When I first moved to L.A. I used to go down to Donte's every Monday night and watch Joe Pass play solo or with a trio. After a few weeks,I got to know him and when I told him that I played steel he also mentioned that "There's this guy named Chaulker who can play be-bop on a steel guitar". Lenny Breau also played there a lot,dug steel also and claimed he learned his cascading harmonic technique from a Canadian steel player.
Eric McEuen
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From: Albuquerque, NM, USA

posted 09 November 2006 10:40 PM     profile     
Thanks for posting this, John. It's great info. I haven't heard a lot of Basie, but I like Freddie's approach: being a team player to make the whole band sound as good as possible.

This fits right in with a quote I've seen from Freddie about playing rhythm guitar. It was something like this: "You shouldn't hear the guitar by itself. It should be part of the drums, so it sounds like the snare is playing in A, or the hi hat is in D minor."

[This message was edited by Eric McEuen on 10 November 2006 at 11:31 AM.]

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