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Author | Topic: dobro players, need advice on right hand |
Terry Sneed Member From: El Dorado, Arkansas, USA |
![]() I should get my Goldtone dobro tomorrow. I have the Green book, but I hadn't found a lot in the book about right hand placement. Do you guys, anchor your pinky or pinky and ring fingers on the dobro somewhere? Or is it best not to anchor at all. About where do ya'll hold your right hand for pickin? How far from the bridge and all? Thanks Terry |
Ron Randall Member From: Dallas, Texas, USA |
![]() Terry IMHO If you are a steel player learning dobro, I would not even think about my right hand. I would just play, and concentrate on bar technique and the musical sounds you want. If you are just starting out and dobro is your main instrument, watch the pros, watch the videos, and have a few lessons. My hero is Mike Auldrige. His music and technique are flawless. hope this helps. Ron Lots of ways to skin this cat. |
Charles Davidson Member From: Alabama, USA |
![]() Ron,your right about Mike,he's THE man.My favorite Dobro player,not bad on pedalsteel either. |
Stephen Gambrell Member From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA |
![]() Terry, there's a handrest on the coverplate. Either lay the back edge of your right hand on that, or right in front of it, for palm muting (blocking). Don't worry about any fingerson that right hand other than the ones wearing the picks. As with steel, there's no hard, set in stone rule, just be comfortable. You'll be doing a lot of pick blocking, and also blocking with the right hand, by lifting the bar slightly. Easy stuff, right? Edited to add: Mike Auldridge's tone, and taste, are second to no one, ever. He's also a pretty cool guy. [This message was edited by Stephen Gambrell on 07 December 2006 at 06:43 AM.] |
Terry Sneed Member From: El Dorado, Arkansas, USA |
![]() Thanks guys. I got my dobro today and have been practicing on it. I've got to dig in to 'The Green Book" and learn some stuff. ![]() Terry ------------------ |
Mark Eaton Member From: Windsor, Sonoma County, CA |
![]() I agree with the others, just start playing the thing at first. With the heel of my hand on the palm rest, I sort of anchor my pinky a lot of the time on the treble string side of the cover plate. Terry, may I make a suggestion: keep those dobro questions coming, everyone is happy to help-but you might want to start any additional threads on the subject in the "Steel With No Pedals" section. That's where these questions have their home. You will probably get additional responses there. That would benefit everyone, and it won't get lost in the "Music" section that way. ------------------ [This message was edited by Mark Eaton on 07 December 2006 at 11:23 AM.] |
Larry Robbins Member From: Fort Edward, New York, USA |
![]() Terry, Check your e-mail. ------------------ |
Terry Sneed Member From: El Dorado, Arkansas, USA |
![]() I'll do that Mark, I got a lot of questions. ![]() Ok Larry I'll check it. Terry |
John Sluszny Member From: Brussels, Belgium |
![]() Terry,what's the "Green Book"? Thanks! |
Mark van Allen Member From: loganville, Ga. USA |
![]() John, the "Green Book" is I'm sure referring to Stacy Phillips' "The Dobro Book", classic instruction with a lot of nods to various styles and licks. Great book. There was a recent thread in "Without pedals" mentioning lots of other great instructional material now available. On the right hand, like everything else, just "ignoring it" might help develop some bad habits. Maybe best to at least be aware of what works for you and what others are doing there. Bluegrassers, on the other hand, often keep their hand up on the cover plate strap and do little palm damping. Mike A. is I believe an exception there, and I remember him telling me his Pedal guitar studies affected his reso approach. |
Mark Eaton Member From: Windsor, Sonoma County, CA |
![]() If you think you are picking hard-pick harder. You don't get the full potential out of these things if you don't really go for it. That said, of course there is a time and place for "softer" picking. But when you see these top players in action-Douglas, Ickes, Auldridge, Kohrs, Heffernan-they pick the heck out of thing. Jimmy Heffernan, in the first day of his two day workshop-spends quite a bit of time emphasizing strong, agressive picking-he points out that the right hand is what it's all about on the dobro. ------------------ |
Tim Harr Member From: East Peoria, Illinois |
![]() While it goes without saying that the left hand technique is quite different, the right hand dobro is based on basic fingerpicking skills, but with some twists: Rolls are highly syncopated chord structures played one note at a time, in a specific sequence, (sometimes referred to as an arpeggio) often at breakneck tempo. The right hand technique to rolls, especially in a bluegrass context. In other cases a roll pattern can be very similar to a fingerstyle guitar arrangement - it all depends on the tune and the player. For bluegrass dobro (which is normally G tuning-G-B-D-G-B-D) the ability to play a G roll is probably the single most important roll!! Chop is similar to mandolin chop and functions in the same way: usually plays the offbeat (one and two and three, etc. In addition to the above -the real twist in right hand technique is in playing the ornaments and embellishments native to the dobro, namely, the hammer-on's, pull-off's, slides and slurs used to express melodies and licks. In basic terms, the thumb is the lead, while the 1st and 2nd fingers fill out the rest of the notes. The thumb almost always plays pull-offs, and plays on any string, including the 1st string! I have heard it said that 80% of a players tone on the dobro comes from their right hand. The right hand technique make a huge difference! Learning to play an instrument is an evolutionary process. It takes years of practice for most of us just to play a simple song extremely well. [This message was edited by Tim Harr on 14 December 2006 at 07:32 PM.] |
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