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Ken Fox Member From: Ray City, GA USA |
posted 22 December 2006 05:45 AM
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Gerald Ross Member From: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA |
posted 22 December 2006 06:36 AM
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Excellent! Thanks!
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Roger Kelly Member From: Mount Carmel, TN. 37645 |
posted 22 December 2006 06:42 AM
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Here is another good one.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBA-PdrCAEc&mode=related&search= |
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Bill Hatcher Member From: Atlanta Ga. USA |
posted 22 December 2006 06:51 AM
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Ken. That was an incredible video!! thanks Anyone know exactly how Thumbs tuned his guitar? I have heard that he tuned to an Eb chord. [This message was edited by Bill Hatcher on 22 December 2006 at 07:02 AM.] |
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Howard Kalish Member From: Austin, Tx USA |
posted 22 December 2006 09:49 AM
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Wow! that's fantastic. I'd heard the Billy Wimberly had a hot band but that's amazing. Anyone know who the fiddle players are or the piano or other guys. Curly sure was a skinny guy back then. That's Red Foley hosting of course. Thanks for posting that Ken. |
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Russ Wever Member From: San Diego, California |
posted 22 December 2006 10:38 AM
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Howard - One of the fiddlers is Jimmy Belkins - This video is one of several that played at Curlys funeral. ~Russ |
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Howard Kalish Member From: Austin, Tx USA |
posted 22 December 2006 11:07 AM
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Russ - Yep, now that you mention it, the fiddle player with glasses is Jimmy Belkin. I think you're right about Blackie Crawford's band working for Ray Price, but they also worked for Lefty Frizzell. Here's an interesting excerpt from Pee Wee Whitewing's excellent website at http://www.heartoftexasband.com/peeweebio.html I finished School in May of 1951 at the age of 17 and called Abe who got me the job with Blackie Crawford and the Western Cherokees backing up Lefty Frizzell, Ray Price, Johnny Recter, Danny Brown and others. This was a very solid well rehearsed group and was kicks to play with. I took the place of Harold (Curly) Chalker who was the one of the best players of that time and had took a job with Hank Thompson. By the way it was Bobby Black that took my place with Shorty Joe and also Blackie Crawfords band backing up Frizzell et al. |
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Herb Steiner Member From: Cedar Valley, Travis County TX |
posted 22 December 2006 02:25 PM
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Very good, Bro. Russ, identifying Jimmy Belkens. The other fiddler is Johnny Manson, another of the Cherokees. I played with him some in Dallas in the mid-70's. ------------------ |
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Richard Sevigny Member From: Vancouver, BC, Canada |
posted 22 December 2006 03:34 PM
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Cool stuff. Love the guitar player's overhand technique (with capo, no less) |
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Skip Edwards Member From: LA,CA |
posted 22 December 2006 05:51 PM
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Pretty dang cool... But I still think the definitive version of Little Liza Jane goes to Wichita with Lester Moran and the Cadillac Cowboys.... [This message was edited by Skip Edwards on 22 December 2006 at 05:52 PM.] |
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Jay Fagerlie Member From: Lotus, California, USA |
posted 23 December 2006 09:08 AM
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Ken, What is the youTube name of this clip? Thanks Jay |
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Jon Light Member From: Brooklyn, NY |
posted 23 December 2006 09:12 AM
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I think this is the second clip of Thumbs I've seen. It messes with my head to watch him--it is as odd looking to me as watching someone play with his toes. Very cool. Thanks for posting this. |
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Ken Fox Member From: Ray City, GA USA |
posted 23 December 2006 09:45 AM
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Name is the same as the topic above |
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Tracy Sheehan Member From: Fort Worth, Texas, USA |
posted 23 December 2006 11:52 AM
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Thumbs tuned in a straight E flat. Like an open E but down to E Flat. [This message was edited by Tracy Sheehan on 23 December 2006 at 11:54 AM.] |
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Earnest Bovine Member From: Los Angeles CA USA |
posted 23 December 2006 12:13 PM
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But he nearly always used a capo and it was usually on the 1st fret, so the tuning was E B G# E B E |
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Barry Blackwood Member From: elk grove, CA |
posted 23 December 2006 01:44 PM
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Great - especially that drum solo by Johnathan Winters .... |
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Michael Lee Allen Member From: Fresno CA USA |
posted 23 December 2006 06:18 PM
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Bill... Thumbs was in "open E" at Chicago trade shows in the late 1960's and early 1970's. He may have gone to "Eb" later on when he did the jazz LPs. After the Tele and Strat he went to Jaguars and Jazzmasters. For awhile he used a Mosrite D-100 335-shaped electric Dobro and a ceramic pickup Gibson Richard Pick classical. One of his later LP covers shows him with a Gibson ES-150. No capos in sight. |
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Earnest Bovine Member From: Los Angeles CA USA |
posted 23 December 2006 06:40 PM
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In Los Angeles in the early 1980's he usually used a Peavey guitar. |
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Roger Rettig Member From: NAPLES, FL |
posted 23 December 2006 07:12 PM
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When you sent me to see him with the Shutouts in '82, he was playing a blond '70s Telecaster. |
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Tom Olson Member From: Spokane, WA |
posted 25 December 2006 02:04 PM
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quote: That's not Jonathan Winters -- it's the bus driver |
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David Coplin Member From: Eugene, Oregon, USA |
posted 25 December 2006 04:06 PM
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Sorry for the link that wasn't. That address is the one that came with the clip but I must have mistyped something. Thanks ken for getting the correct link. Dave |
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David Doggett Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA |
posted 25 December 2006 10:03 PM
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It's interesting that Thumbs used a straight E or Eb tuning. In essence he was playing an open E lap steel, only with his fingers and frets instead of with a bar. He is basically fingering the hammer-ons and pull-offs. Somehow that makes it a little less mind boggling. But the skill and execution is still amazing. |
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