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Lee Baucum
Member

From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) - The Final Frontier

posted 12 December 2000 07:47 PM     profile     
I see that there are quite a few delay units available for less than $100. Has anybody tried any of them. The Guyatone Micro digital delay looks interesting. It's very compact and shouldn't take up much room in the old pac-a-seat.

Lee, from South Texas

KENNY KRUPNICK
Member

From: Grove City,Ohio

posted 12 December 2000 10:15 PM     profile     
I recommend a BOSS DD-3 Digital Delay,or a RV-3 Digital Reverb/Delay.
Tele
Member

From: Andy W. - Wolfenbuettel, Germany

posted 13 December 2000 12:59 AM     profile     
Don't know if it's digital but I can really recommend the cheap Ibanez Echomachine. This is so close to the old 1950s-60s tape delays..plus very quiet. It doesn't change the original tone which is the best part of it.

Andy

Jack Stoner
Sysop

From: Inverness, Florida

posted 13 December 2000 03:59 AM     profile     
I use a Boss DD-5, which is similar to the DD-3 but it also has a "tap" function.

You have to be careful with some of the stomp boxes as they work great with a guitar but a steel will overload them and cause them to distort. I'd recommend trying any unit with your steel before purchasing it.

Tony Orth
Member

From: Evansville, Indiana, USA

posted 13 December 2000 08:51 AM     profile     
Lee,
I also would recommend the BOSS DD-3.
I picked one up on Ebay for 65$ and I love it. If you get one, buy a DC converter because I hear it will eat batteries.

Steel Rockin',

Tony Orth
Dekley S-11
Session 400 Limited
Boss DD-3
Understanding Wife

Larry Hendrickson
Member

From: New Glarus, WI

posted 13 December 2000 09:09 AM     profile     
Lee, I would recommend the Boss RV-3. I use one with my Peavey amps. It has both reverb and delay and you can use either at the same time or just delay if you want. It takes a while to learn the settings but you will get alot of recommendations from the forum members. The unit has two out patches on it so you can run two amps with it. I do this occasionally or I run one of the outs to a tape deck to record along with a CD or other tape. I just think for the money the RV-3 is the best unit. I bought mine on e-bay for $101.00. LH
Pete Burak
Member

From: Portland, OR USA

posted 13 December 2000 09:49 AM     profile     
I see Steel Guitar Nashville has RV3's for $142 new. A good price.
slick
Member

From: Calhoun Georgia

posted 13 December 2000 10:08 AM     profile     
Lee,
I recently bought a Boss DD-3,gotta get an adapter man it eats batteries.Great little
delay.

Wayne

John Macy
Member

From: Denver, CO USA

posted 13 December 2000 02:27 PM     profile     
Without a doubt, the Line 6 Delay Modeler pedal is the finest by far. It models 16 different delay pedals with uncanny accuracy, including a tube echoplex. You can store 3 presets of pedals and it also has a tap button. Awesome. Street price is about $250.00.
Pharaoh
Member

From: Raleigh, NC, USA

posted 13 December 2000 03:08 PM     profile     
I'll second the Delay Modeler from Line6. Buy one, then go to Radio Shack and buy a power adapter for an old 8-bit Nintendo, (9VAC @ 1300mA) and a new plug for it (5.1mmOD). Solder that all up and you've saved youself about $40 over buying the adaptor from Line6. The DL4 eats the heck out of batteries, plus it uses 4!!! C-cell flashlight batteries. That's because it does true bypass with a set of relays, which pull a lot of current when you're using the pedal. Greg Leisz uses one of these Delay Modelers, I think he uses the Tube Echoplex, Digital Delay, and maybe the Stereo Delay models, I forget. His rig is in the issue of Guitar Player with Jeff Beck on the cover from December or January, I think.

Ricky Littleton
Member

From: Steely-Eyed Missile Man from Orlando, Florida USA

posted 14 December 2000 06:51 AM     profile     
I use a Danelectro Dan-Echo stomp box. I looked around quite a bit before I found one I liked. This one is really great sounding. The general tone is very warm and gives a real depth to my Emmons. I recommend it for sure.

Rick

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Emmons LeGrande - 8x4
Session 400 Ltd
Alesis Microverb
Dan-Echo, E-Bow

John Macy
Member

From: Denver, CO USA

posted 14 December 2000 10:19 AM     profile     
Hey Pharoh,

I got the power adapters from Guitar Center for $19.95, which was not too bad. I also have the modulator box which is great also. They are big, but worth it.

Rusty Hurse
Member

From: Hendesonville, Tn

posted 14 December 2000 05:02 PM     profile     
Lee that DD3 or DD5 is hard to beat, the RV is more suited for the reverb effect.If you like Chorus the best one I have ever used is a TC Electronics in combination with the DD3 or DD5. The tone is amazing with those two units, the TC is a little expensive but worth every penny after you try one. Play this thru two amps. I think you will like the sound.
Lee Baucum
Member

From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) - The Final Frontier

posted 30 December 2000 04:45 PM     profile     
OK. I just brought home a Guyatone MD2, Micro Digital Delay. They run about $98 in the catalogs. A buddy, who owns a music store, is letting me have one for $80.

This thing is incredible. It sounds great and is the smallest stomp box I have ever seen. It's about two and one-half inches wide by about three and one-half inches long. It will practically fit in a shirt pocket. And it sounds great.

I'm impressed. I believe that Guyatone also makes a little bitty digital reverb unit.

Lee, from South Texas

Terry Downs
Member

From: Garland, TX US

posted 31 December 2000 10:04 AM     profile     
I use the RV3. I really like this device. I think "stomp boxes" are well suited for steel because they are designed to operate from guitar level signals and not line level. You must have a serious studio quality rack effect to work at instrument levels without adding noise. I saw Paul Franklin use a DD-2 (or 5) a couple years ago. Thats a pretty good sample point. It turns out that he knows quite a bit about steel guitar and tone
Jay Ganz
Member

From: Out Behind The Barn

posted 31 December 2000 12:23 PM     profile     
In addition to the Guyatone reverb pedal,
I see now that Danelectro has one for
about $40 or so! Pretty amazing if they
actually sound any good.
tbhenry
Member

From: Chattanooga /USA

posted 31 December 2000 07:01 PM     profile     
Hi,
I have a new DD3 and am having difficulty getting it to souind just right. Can someone on the forum suggest some settings for a slow country song such as "Release Me"

Brian
Sierra Artist/Peavey

Lee Baucum
Member

From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) - The Final Frontier

posted 01 January 2001 10:54 AM     profile     
Jay - Those cheap Danelectro stomp boxes aren't much more than toys. Their higher end units sound real good.

I have a small rack that has a Lex MPX-100 in it. It has great reverbs, delays, chorus, etc. I have the rack set up to drive two amps. I wanted a small, inexpensive delay unit to keep in the pac-a-seat for rehearsals or when I just use one amp. This little bitty Guyatone unit is just perfect.

Lee, from South Texas

Gene Jones
Member

From: Oklahoma City, OK USA

posted 01 January 2001 11:58 AM     profile     
Does Peavey stil make the 'Deltafex? It was a great inexpensive unit, worked off AC, no batteries. Of course it had no memory but how many players use more that 2or 3 settings anyway?
Bill Crook
Member

From: Goodlettsville, TN , Spending my kid's inheritance

posted 04 January 2001 07:13 AM     profile     
tbhenry....

quote:
I have a new DD3 and am having difficulty getting it to souind just right. Can someone on the forum suggest some settings for a slow country song such as "Release Me"


left to right,

set the first 2 knobs at 9:00 o clock
set the 3rd knob at 12:00 noon. this works very well for the song "Release Me" and most other moderant tunes.

The 4th knob, I keep set at the 800 setting, as that allows a wide swing of effects from just a reverb effect to a very long and repeating delay sound depending on how you set the first 3 knobs.

Roger Crawford
Member

From: Locust Grove, GA USA

posted 08 January 2001 02:48 PM     profile     
Has anyone tried the new DigiTech RP100? It seems to have a lot of bells & whistles and comes in just under $100.00. And you guys that are Line6 fans, was it not worth another $80.00 or so to go to the POD? I'm not that familiar with Line6 products, but have a friend who takes his guitar and POD when he does studio work. Just curious.
RC
John Paul Jones
Member

From: San Diego

posted 08 January 2001 09:27 PM     profile     
I tried the Digitech RP100 with lead guitar and didn't like it. I'm sure I would like it less for steel guitar. ... and I'm a Digitech fan.

John Paul Jones

Kenneth Kotsay
Member

From: Davie, Florida

posted 13 January 2001 05:42 PM     profile     
What wallwart (AC ADOPTER) do you use with the BOSS DD-3???

Can you use a:
BOSS: PSA 120T In:120V 60HZ 9W / Out: DC 9.6V 200mA

OR

BOSS: PSA 120 In:120V 60HZ 8W / OUT: DC 9V 200mA

What's the difference between the OUT C 9V and the OUT C 9.6V

Can I use either one?????

KEN

[This message was edited by Kenneth Kotsay on 13 January 2001 at 05:43 PM.]

Bob Carlson
Member

From: Surprise AZ.

posted 13 January 2001 11:09 PM     profile     
I still have my old Boss DM 3 which is anolog. Thought I'd better up date to the DD 3 but It don't have near the mellow tone as the anolog. Where you really notice the differance Is the vocal on tape. I also have a Digitech 256 XL which I use "most of the time" on the steel. You know how It Is, gotta keep looking for that perfect sound. My wife Is In Iowa with her 99 year old mother so I've been blasting away all night and with the curtians drawn I had the best tone I've ever had. On the Tele and Jaguar I just use reverb on the Fender Twin set on three.

Bob Carlson

Uff Da!

Chris Heinrich
Member

From: Pensacola, FL

posted 15 January 2001 01:43 AM     profile     
I'll agree with Mr. Baucom on the little Danelectro boxes. They make alot of noise. Also, I tried the Guyatone unit, but it didn't have the versatility of my DD-3. Roland has yet to let me down.
Chris
Ricky Littleton
Member

From: Steely-Eyed Missile Man from Orlando, Florida USA

posted 15 January 2001 11:38 AM     profile     
I agree about the cheap DanElectro stomps (the ones named after sandwiches). Didn't like those at all, but the higher end ones are really good.

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Emmons LeGrande - 8x4
Session 400 Ltd
Alesis Microverb
Dan-Echo, E-Bow

Lee Baucum
Member

From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) - The Final Frontier

posted 16 January 2001 07:36 PM     profile     
Chris - I agree, the Guyatone unit is not as versatile as the DD3, but it was certainly much less expensive. I just wanted something to give me one, clean repeat. I wasn't interested in a more expensive stereo unit. The itty, bitty Guyatone fit the bill perfectly.

Lee, from South Texas

Michael ODriscoll
Member

From: Waunakee, Wisconsin USA

posted 19 January 2001 08:59 PM     profile     
FWIW... very interesting! When this topic first started back in mid-Dec, was thinking of replacing my Ibanez Sound Tank DL-5 (400ms) stomp pedal (I used it mostly for my strat and tele through a twin reverb).

I knew I wanted to try out the BOSS product line, so tried the DD-5 first. Lots of features, but it sounds very isolated, thin and sterile to my ear, plus I wasn't sure if I was willing to fork out more for the tap-tempo foot controller or ever use the reverse and stereo panning features.

Next the DD-3... much better/warmer sound than the DD-5. Basically, a very solid pedal, as far as features go, and a great pedal for a reasonable price.

However, I selected the RV-3. Above average, professional quality, reverb and digital delay, both in combination and seperate modes, and much closer to the sound of the older analog delays for a fraction of the price over the cost of the DD-5.

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::: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused. :::


Lefty
Member

From: Grayson, Ga.

posted 22 January 2001 05:56 AM     profile     
I use a DD-5 into a TC Electronics Chorus and stereo out to my session 500 and Musicman HD-130. This give a spatial, fat sound. The Chorus sound is used sparingly. The DD-5 has more funtions than I use, but I bought it at a good price, and have been happy with it. It does eat batteries. I have an RV-3 ordered, and have heard good things about them.
Lefty
Sho-Bud LDG
Roger Crawford
Member

From: Locust Grove, GA USA

posted 27 January 2001 01:07 PM     profile     
Just saw the DD-3 at Marrs for $99.95, had to get one !
RC

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