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Topic: Peavey Bandit 112 :sounds good for small room recording
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Steven Welborn
Member From: Ojai,CA USA
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posted 21 January 2002 10:28 AM
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Did some recording at a local recording studio last night. very small room. I opted to use the owners Peavey Bandit(100rms/12 in.spkr)and got very nice and smooth sound at very low volume. Two weeks ago i tried recording at same studio with my own Webb 6-14E and had a very difficult time(regulating tone,volume,u name it)I think that amps' sweet spot is way out of range for small rooms. The owner is willing to sell his Bandit to me, around $400. Is this about right? Are these amps still in production? The Bandit has a Sheffield 1230 spkr. Is that the ideal spkr for steel for this amp?much obliged.SW |
Tom Gorr
Member From: Three Hills, Alberta
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posted 21 January 2002 07:36 PM
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I bought a Peavey Classic Chorus (2x75W w/stereo chorus) in as-new condition for US$200, so I would suggest that $400 for a 100W Bandit is way too much. You may also want to find out if 6-string guitarists would pay $400 in case you find it does not meet your overall needs. Check out ebay to see what the going rate is for used Bandits. I am not a recording expert, but from my experiments and readings, here are some ideas and considerations - a) The small room will cause phase cancellations at some frequencies, and the room itself has its own resonant frequencies that boost tones that impact the overall sound. b) the mic you are using may shape the overall frequency response, and coincidently be a better match with one amp and room size compared to the other. For instance, my dynamic mic has a 2-3 kHz bump that theoretically adds harshness, wheras my condenser mic has a 5 kHz bump that theoretically should give more presence. c) If you haven't tried it yet - I find I get an excellent tone by going straight into my board, and taking out 4 dB at 800 Hz and adding a 3 dB boost at 5kHz(just like my EQ on my modded Vegas!). Overall, I find direct and dry recording gives better low-end tonal separation than with a mic'd amp. After adding in stereo reverb, you end up with a pretty nice sound. Also, going direct gets rid of a whole chain of noise adders, especially compared to amp mic'd at low volume (clink, clunk, hiss). d) if you have an effects loop on the Webb, it may be possible to add in a parametric EQ or something to dial in a better volume and frequency response at low volumes.
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Blake Hawkins
Member From: Land O'Lakes, Florida
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posted 21 January 2002 09:39 PM
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Sam Ash lists the price of a new Bandit 112
as $399.99 |
Rick Trolinger
Member From: Cave Springs, Arkansas
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posted 22 January 2002 04:28 AM
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Go to Musicgoround.com and do a search on Bandit 112. They have 9 of them listed ranging from $149.00 to $249.00.Rick Trolinger |
Mike Brown
Member From: Meridian, Mississippi USA
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posted 22 January 2002 05:35 AM
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Although some amps are not "voiced" for steel guitar applications, sometimes a six string guitar amp can sound pretty good. There are several "non" steel Peavey amps that work well for steel guitar. One new addition to the Peavey amp line that works well is the Transtube 112EFX with built in digital effects. This one really surprised me in a small room application.Thanks for choosing Peavey. Mike Brown
Peavey Electronics Corporation |
Bruce Derr
Member From: Lee, New Hampshire, USA
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posted 23 January 2002 07:23 PM
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I found a working Bandit 65 chassis at the dump a couple of years ago. This is a mid-'80s model, I believe. With a new cabinet and new Eminence 12" speaker, it sounds fine for steel, as long as the volume doesn't need to be very high. |
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