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Topic: Peaveys best kept secret!!!
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BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 10 April 2002 08:36 PM
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Paul G., stay out of the humor section, you have no business there! You belong here!
Richard Mc. No kidding? Look at the difference in the money! You belong in the humor section!--------(just kidding) Don Rickels! |
Steven Welborn
Member From: Ojai,CA USA
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posted 12 April 2002 11:21 PM
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Paul G., gee whiz..I thought Bobbe was using the 5" speaker as an extreme example. I would imagine some might of had a pschological thing about playin pedal steel thru a 5 incher..even if there were eight of em. I believe the testimony about the results though. Now I've gotta bug in me to build one of these things or something like it. Maybe something in between a 4/10 and 8/5 such as a 6/8, resulting in a "twin" shaped cabinet(two horizontal rows of three). In this case, if each speaker was 8 ohms and you had three legs of two speakers per leg in series (16+16+16), what would that yield something like a 6 ohm load? That's still works for most of our amps right? Another question... whatever the combined wattage output of the speakers are, wont it require an amp with a matching power output (or actually somewhere not far below it) to drive them? Please, anyone else chime in on this. Thanks for sharing all this info Paul. this is extremely intrigueing. BTW, did you favor any one of those types of speakers? Never heard of aluminum cones before. [This message was edited by Steven Welborn on 12 April 2002 at 11:24 PM.] |
Paul Graupp
Member From: Macon Ga USA
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posted 12 April 2002 11:58 PM
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Steven: In one of my answers to Bobbe I mentioned about 8 fives being about 14.25"
surface area. Since all the units react as one, that's almost a 15 inch speaker. Perhaps you are right in folks thinking you couldn't play steel through a 5" spkr and that may be why they never went any where.I use paper cones but a friend here in town prefers a brighter tone and uses the wavy aluminum cones. It's a personnal taste thing. He has open backs, I have closed. I'm not sure but I think I'd keep the speaker (s) power rating near the amp rating.
A low rated amp may run into the power supply rails and put DC on the speakers which would harm them. An overpowered amp to spkr situation could also damage the voice coils. I use a DPC-1000 on two 400 watt speaker cabinets. My friend uses a DPC-750 on two 280 watt cabinets. So we're both a little over but we never get into the really high powered music so no risk is involved. You'd have to evaluate your playing requirements. Your load of 5.3 ohms would fit common 4 ohm amplifiers OK. Regards, Paul  [This message was edited by Paul Graupp on 12 April 2002 at 11:59 PM.] |
Hamilton Barnard
Member From: Huntington Beach, CA
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posted 13 April 2002 09:12 AM
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I remember seeing some Bose stereo speakers in the 70's in which each cabinet had 9 three inch speakers. I laughed...until I heard them; I was stunned at the amount of bass coming from those cabs.Changed my thinking forever...maybe for the worse. Heck, Bobbe's even my friend...
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Andy Greatrix
Member From: Edmonton Alberta
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posted 13 April 2002 01:20 PM
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Has anyone ever tried Kevlar
(the stuff they put in bullet-proof vests)
for speakers,instead of paper, aluminum, etc.I don't know what I'm talking about,
so I don't know that it can't be done. Does it come in various consistencys?[This message was edited by Andy Greatrix on 13 April 2002 at 04:23 PM.] |
Paul Graupp
Member From: Macon Ga USA
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posted 14 April 2002 10:10 AM
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Andy: It seems to me I've heard or read somewhere about Kevlar in speakers cones. I have loaned out my MCI catalog so I can't look there, but yes it does ring a bell.Hamilton: You have reminded me of a gig we played once at a Florida State Sorority. They had set up two Bose speakers on either side of the bandstand for intermission music. Our bass player sorta mocked them but I told him: Wait until you hear them......I can recall his amazed expression to this day. I still don't think he believes what he heard !! Regards, Paul |
Dennis Detweiler
Member From: Solon, Iowa, US
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posted 14 April 2002 03:01 PM
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The early Bose was unique. I worked with a show from Branson in the late 70s-early 80s that used this system. The amp had two handles and usually required two people to carry it. It took a big amp to drive the lows through the sealed cabinets(no ports). Bose came out with a ported model soon after, but I did't know of anyone using that model. I also heard a band out of Wisconsin that used the Bose system. They mic'ed all the instruments through it. A very compact and powerful unit.
The bullet proof speakers would be handy in some night clubs! :~)[This message was edited by Dennis Detweiler on 14 April 2002 at 06:08 PM.] |
Rick Garrett
Member From: Tyler, Texas
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posted 15 April 2002 01:53 PM
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Looking forward to getting that new Classic 50/212 Bobbe. COMON UPS. Rick |
Roger Crawford
Member From: Locust Grove, GA USA
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posted 16 April 2002 07:29 PM
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Bobbe...any experience with the Tube Sweetener? |
Paul Graupp
Member From: Macon Ga USA
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posted 16 April 2002 08:59 PM
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Roger: Bobbe's best best man, Jeff, may help you on this. Back in the Electronics Forum, 26 Feb is a thread started by Mike Brown of Peavey and it begins with the words: Jeff Peterson.....Regards, Paul  |
Dennis Detweiler
Member From: Solon, Iowa, US
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posted 17 April 2002 11:56 AM
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Bobbe has a Tube Sweetener on order from PV. I think he will give it a test run and relay his opinion sometime soon?
Dennis |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 21 April 2002 01:45 PM
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YEP ! ! |
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