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Topic: 12 inch Peavey BW speakers
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Earnest Bovine
Member From: Los Angeles CA USA
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posted 12 June 2002 08:34 AM
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Is there more than one model of 12 inch Black Widow speaker? |
Bill Terry
Member From: Bastrop, TX, USA
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posted 12 June 2002 12:12 PM
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Apparently... I found this a while back when I was trying to figure out which 15" basket to order:
http://www.peavey.com/media/pdf/manuals/80300801.pdf ------------------
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Steven Welborn
Member From: Ojai,CA USA
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posted 12 June 2002 04:33 PM
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1201-8
1202-4
1205-8
the above 12" BW's are Kevlar impregnated and designed for vocals/moniters/midrange bass
1203-4's are paper cones and designed for instruments. there the ones for steel.Threre's alittle more on it at www.peavey.com
click:support, click:tech notes, click:misc-blackwidows |
Timmy Witt
Member From: Rocky Face, Georgia, USA
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posted 12 June 2002 07:51 PM
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I just ordered a couple of 1203-4, I sure hope they sound good, because I won't miss hauling around 15's.------------------
Tim
1990 Lashley Legrande D10 8 & 4. Profex II, Blue Tube II, Nashville 400
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Mike Brown
Member From: Meridian, Mississippi USA
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posted 13 June 2002 07:31 AM
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We presently manufacture the 1208-4, 1208-8, 1201-8, 1203-4 and the 1203-8 ohm Black Widow speakers.Mike Brown
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chas smith
Member From: Encino, CA, USA
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posted 13 June 2002 11:40 AM
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Mike, I bought a couple of 1201s which I assumed were the 12" version of the 1501. Was this correct? (The comparison, not the purchase)  |
Roger Shackelton
Member From: Everett, Wa.
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posted 14 June 2002 06:11 AM
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Mike,I believe Earnest and Chas are looking for the Peavey 12 inch speakers that Jeff Newman told us about on his website. The ones that are used in the 112E speaker boxes. The ones that go "Boom" Roger |
Mike Brown
Member From: Meridian, Mississippi USA
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posted 14 June 2002 06:16 AM
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Actually, the 1203-4 ohm BW's were what we used in the Nashville 112E cabinets. I used them on several occasions with a DPC 1000 and Profex II and they sounded really good. Thanks for inquiring. If you have any further questions, call me at 1-877-732-8391. Mike Brown
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Earnest Bovine
Member From: Los Angeles CA USA
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posted 14 June 2002 09:24 AM
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Bill Terry,
Thanks for posting that link to the .pdf file with lots of detail about the various Black Widow speakers. Here it is again for those of you who missed it: http://www.peavey.com/media/pdf/manuals/80300801.pdf Chas wrote quote:
bought a couple of 1201s which I assumed were the 12" version of the 1501. Was this correct?
According to the PDF file, the 12 inch speaker that corrseponds to the 1501DT is the 1203, not the 1201. The 1501DT and the 1203 are the only two speakers that use paper cones. The others use Kevlar cones. Apparently steel players (abd many guitar players) prefer the sound of the paper cone.
I really like the sound of my 15 inch Black Widow with Gerry Walker's Stereo Steel amp. I have a JBL D130F on one side, so it is easy to compare the two, and the BW sounds much better to me. The reason I asked about the 12" speaker is that I have a little Yamaha combo amp (G100-112) that sounds great when I use the 15 inch BW instead of its built-in Yamaha
12" speaker. I think this would be a killer recording amp if I find a 12 inch BW that sounds like the 15 inch BW.[This message was edited by Earnest Bovine on 14 June 2002 at 09:26 AM.] |
chas smith
Member From: Encino, CA, USA
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posted 14 June 2002 11:19 AM
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The D-130 sounds like it has a "bass rolloff". |
Bill Terry
Member From: Bastrop, TX, USA
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posted 14 June 2002 02:28 PM
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FWIW, I recently bought a '70 Vibrolux Reverb that had been modified with a 1203-4 BW speaker replacing the stock 2-10's. I really thought this would be a great practice or small gig steel amp, but the BW isn't doing it for me at all. It has poor low end response and is edgy or brittle sounding on top. I'm not nuts about the sound with my Tele either, not at all what I expected. However, it is really LOUD (efficient). BTW, the VR sounds much better plugged into a small box with a cheap 12" Eminence that I use for a test load on my bench, much warmer. Just a better match for that amp I guess... BTW, I'm not knocking the 12" BW, I really like the 15" BW, and I'm sure the 12 would be fine in some amps, just didn't work in this particular Vibrolux.
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seldomfed
Member From: Colorado
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posted 14 June 2002 05:31 PM
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I just put two 12" bw's (1203-4 I think) in my Peavey Stereo Chorus 400. I also added a Lemay mod - man what a nice sound now compared to stock. Just get the right ohm rating you need. -4 , -8But it is MUCH heavier now. Those BW magnets are not light. So you may notice minimal change in weight. ------------------
Chris Kennison
Ft. Collins, Colorado
"We can't afford to let Nature run wild" - govt. offical - Alaska
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Roger Shackelton
Member From: Everett, Wa.
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posted 15 June 2002 10:45 AM
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Mike,What is the current retail price on the
BW 1203--4 ohm speakers? Roger |
Mike Brown
Member From: Meridian, Mississippi USA
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posted 17 June 2002 07:50 AM
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Hey Roger, in order to adhere to Bob's rules, I will be e-mailing you with this price. Thanks for asking and if I can be of further assistance to you, don't hesitate to contact me here at Peavey. 1-877-732-8391.Mike Brown |
Timmy Witt
Member From: Rocky Face, Georgia, USA
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posted 21 June 2002 07:08 PM
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I just got my 1203-4's and they sound awesome.
Tim------------------
Tim
1990 Lashley Legrande D10 8 & 4. Profex II, Blue Tube II, Nashville 400
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Gino Iorfida
Member From: Oakdale, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 24 October 2002 05:25 AM
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The reason ther is no bottom in the Vibrolux that has the 12" BW in it is in the voicing of the amp. THe main reason is that the Vibrolux output transformer was designed a bit cheaper than what is used in a Pro reverb/Bassman etc, and is quite a bit smaller/lighter, and has a bit of a bass frequency roll-off. This roll off Fender thought was good, as to protect the teeeeny 10" speakers. There are aftermarket transformers that are quite a bit beefier that can be put in (probably about $100-$150 installed), that will DRASTICALLY increase the beef in this amp.
There are also some voicing thigns that can be done to the tone stack (I currently have my Vibrolux set to 'blackface' specs, but also have the 'normal' channel with reverb and vibrato, and you guessed it, I have it voiced differently than the 'vibrato' channel, with a couple different caps in the tone stack that make this channel MUCH thicker in tone than the stock vib. channel..still wouldnt play PSG with it, not until I can get some 12"speakers in it and the new OT).
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Ken Fox
Member From: Ray City, GA USA
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posted 24 October 2002 07:12 PM
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Try replacing all the tone caps with silver mica (250uf) and appropriate sized Orange Drops in the Fender and them check out them BW speakers! I just did that today on my second Vibroverb clone. It sound much like your amp description above. It has total changed now! The frequency response is unbelievable. It is just like replacing a set of old dead strings with new ones! I would have never believed it if I had not done it myself and heard the difference today. |
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