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Topic: JBL in a DeLuxe Reverb??
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Stephen Gambrell
Member From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA
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posted 27 December 2002 01:45 PM
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I guess the header says it all. Anybody ever put a JBL in a DeLuxe Reverb, and how did you like it? I'm re-doing one from the ground up, and it has a Celestion in it right now. This will be my main 6-string amp, don't plan on using it for steel much, if at all. Whaddya think?? |
Bobby Boggs
Member From: Pendleton SC
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posted 27 December 2002 02:29 PM
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Install the JBL and use it for steel.Unless you have to play really loud.I had a Fender Super with a 15 JBL that was killer at (low)or normal volumes.  Merry Christmas------bb |
Jack Francis
Member From: Mesa, Arizona, USA
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posted 27 December 2002 02:35 PM
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I'm guessin' you'll love it!
I have a 50W Seymour Duncan tube amp that sounded pretty good, well sorta OK.
I put a JBL (12") in it and at the volume that I play it at (Most every gig that I do on guitar that's not outdoors) it is GREAT.
Sounds as good as my hot-rodded Twin.
The last CD that we did, everybody thought that I used my Twin for the guitar parts.
Go for it! 
Jack------------------
RUS-LER S-10-NV 400(dead)
TELE's,STRAT-FENDER TWIN
Seymour Duncan 50W tube amp
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Mike Sweeney
Member From: Nashville,TN,USA
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posted 27 December 2002 03:07 PM
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The albums Lloyd Green did on Little Darlin and Chart were with a Deluxe with a d-120f JBL. A great recording amp that way for steel but I don't think you would want to use it live though. But for guitar it might be o.k.
Sweeney |
Tony Prior
Member From: Charlotte NC
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posted 27 December 2002 03:14 PM
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Stephen, yes , back in my earliest days we played thru Deluxes's, some we had JBL's in and some we puy EV's in..Great little amps that really rock, especially with those 12" JBLS.I think a small gig would be right in line with those amps and the JBL's. I am considering a JBL or an EV for my Hot Rod Deluxe now..Just looking for a deal.. See ya in Saluda TP |
Ken Fox
Member From: Ray City, GA USA
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posted 27 December 2002 03:27 PM
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Steve, you will have to get longer studs in the baffle board for the JBL to work, keep that in mind.
My main guitar amp is a 1966 Deluxe (non- reverb) with a D-120F in it! It is great. I have had other Deluxes and Deluxe Reverbs in my shop with Oxfords, etc. They sounded warmer at low volumes than the JBL. When you crank it up, the JBL warms up and takes over! The amp is so much more efficient with the JBL that I can go up against Super Reverbs and Twins without too much problem! I like to play steel through it and the Nashville 400 at the same time, it's a great sound.
Another nice thing to help is the Weber Copper Cap rectifier. It is a solid state unit with proper sagging resistors. Just plug it in the tube socket, checlk your bias and off you go! It takes no heater current, so the power transformer is not worked so hard. I also use NOS RCA 6V6GT tubes in mine. Here is a link to the Weber rectifier:
http://www.webervst.com/ccap.html [This message was edited by Ken Fox on 27 December 2002 at 03:29 PM.] [This message was edited by Ken Fox on 27 December 2002 at 03:31 PM.] |
Buck Dilly
Member From: Branchville, NJ, USA
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posted 28 December 2002 10:20 AM
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I have used and EVM until it finally blew. This was after 22 uears of gigging and moving and other abuses. I really like the sound of EV's. |
Ken Fox
Member From: Ray City, GA USA
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posted 28 December 2002 11:15 AM
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I have heard of others using the EV. Probably a bit warmer tone! The Force 12 by EV would be a great one. I have three in my floor monitors I built. I tried one in the Deluxe when I first got it and it was a great sound. I replaced it with the JBL, so I could put my floor monitor back together! As EV no longer makes musical speakers, you may have a tought time finding one. Also a Peavey 1203-8 would be a nice one to try out in there, too! I have a 1203-4 on the way for an LTD 400 that I am putting in a old Pacer cabinet. I can't wait to try it out and see how it sounds! [This message was edited by Ken Fox on 28 December 2002 at 11:16 AM.] |
Stephen Gambrell
Member From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA
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posted 28 December 2002 01:29 PM
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Thanks, guys. Ken, I was hoping you'd check in on this, I don't want to pull the front, what'll fit the studs that are there?
Tony, I used to have a DeLuxe years ago, I think it's the best guitar amp Fender ever made!
And Bobby Boggs, what part of "6-string guitar amp" don't you understand???BUDDY ROCKET RULES |
Bobby Boggs
Member From: Pendleton SC
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posted 28 December 2002 01:59 PM
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Steve.What part of sounds good at low volumes with PSG don't YOU UNDERSTAND? Merry Christmas. |
Ken Fox
Member From: Ray City, GA USA
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posted 28 December 2002 02:00 PM
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Most cheaper stamp-frame speakers will fit the studs, unfortunately! You might look at Weber speakers and even give Ted Weber a call. They have some great speaker solutions and he is very helpful! See the link above on the Copper Cap, he makes that, too! |
Jay Ganz
Member From: Out Behind The Barn
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posted 28 December 2002 03:04 PM
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I made my own plug in solid state rectifier.
Just soldered in some diodes inside an old
broken tube socket. Cost me about 10 cents.
Along with that, I installed two Tung-Sol
5881 output tubes (re-set the bias to about
30 ma on each) and let 'er rip. Oh man....
what a difference! I have an old original
Fender label Jensen C12N in it. I played
through it on that video clip I posted
over on the "Pedal Steel" section. |
Bill Leff
Member From: Santa Cruz, CA, USA
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posted 28 December 2002 07:32 PM
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I've got a Weber California speaker (Ted Webers take on the JBL from what I gather). Mine has the paper dustcap but you can get one with the aluminum dustcap. Copper Cap rectifier in there too, with NOS Brimar (from England) 6V6s. Sounds mighty fine, and very loud. |
Ken Fox
Member From: Ray City, GA USA
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posted 28 December 2002 08:32 PM
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I tried one of the California speakers in a Polytone. It is one nice unit! |
Tyler Macy
Member From: San Diego, CA, USA
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posted 29 December 2002 01:13 PM
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I recently put a greyframe JBL D120F in my '69 Princeton Reverb. It is a 2 X 6V6 amp like a deluxe, but only puts out 18 watts, not 22. Anyways it really transformed the amp. It now sounds absolutely incredible. Sound great with a tele clean or overdriven. It is also now a suitable amp for steel at practice volumes. Before, it didn't have the high-end for decent steel tone.If you like the JBL sound, then you will love it in a deluxe. Good luck. |
Stephen Gambrell
Member From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA
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posted 29 December 2002 01:56 PM
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Bobby, I DID NOT pay 2 grand for an instrument to play at "low volume." A Tele, on the other hand, is like most of my old girlfriends. Cheap, and easy to turn down
Thanks for your help. Seriously. |
TonyL
Member From: Vancouver, BC
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posted 29 December 2002 06:45 PM
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Anyone try a JBL in a "new" Deluxe Reverb reissue....? T |
Bobby Boggs
Member From: Pendleton SC
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posted 29 December 2002 08:38 PM
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" A Tele, on the other hand, is like most of my old girlfriends. Cheap, and easy to turn down.)
Want a job playing guitar??  |
Bill Leff
Member From: Santa Cruz, CA, USA
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posted 30 December 2002 09:29 AM
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Tony, My Deluxe Reverb is a reissue. Came with a Jensen speaker. The Weber was a vast improvement (sorry, not a JBL). Those amps also come with really junk tubes and most of the preamp and all power amp tubes should be replaced for a much better sound (in my humble opinion). Bill
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Brad Sarno
Member From: St. Louis, MO USA
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posted 30 December 2002 10:29 AM
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I play thru a '68 Deluxe Reverb with an old JBL D-120f orange speaker. Best sounding guitar amp on the planet. A little quiet for live steel gigs but for guitar and low-volume steel and steel recording, it's perfect. Doesn't get any better than the Deluxe/JBL combo. Brad Sarno
St. Louis |
Tyler Macy
Member From: San Diego, CA, USA
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posted 30 December 2002 01:46 PM
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My pride and joy:
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Stephen Gambrell
Member From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA
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posted 30 December 2002 02:24 PM
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Bobby, you wanna hire me, or just meet a few of my old girlfriends? |
Bobby Boggs
Member From: Pendleton SC
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posted 30 December 2002 09:41 PM
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Let me think on that. |
Michael Brebes
Member From: Northridge CA
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posted 06 January 2003 09:26 AM
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I tend to feel that the D120's are little on the bright side. I'm using a Celestian Vintage 30 in my Deluxe Reverb and an EVM12L in my Blues Deluxe. I think both are a better choice because of their smoother frequency response. |
Stephen Gambrell
Member From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA
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posted 06 January 2003 02:03 PM
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SO, anybody got a JBL they wanna sell?? |
Ricky0ne1
Member From: West Peoria, IL, USA
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posted 07 January 2003 09:55 PM
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Stephen, I have 2 D120F's on Ebay, I just put them on a couple days ago. I'll be glad to sell you one after 1/12/03 if they don't reach reserve price, or you could just bid. They are both excellent. Hard to find good ones I'd suspect..
here's the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1288&item=935529646&rd=1
Regards, Rick Summers |
TonyL
Member From: Vancouver, BC
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posted 08 January 2003 12:00 PM
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Another question about the DLXE reissues:After replacing the speaker and tubes (if you did) , have any of you replaced the circuit board with a hand-wired kit....? If so, how difficult was the process and was there an improvement? T |
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