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Topic: Bass 15" speakers for pedal steel?
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David Doggett
Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 26 February 2003 09:46 AM
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If one is playing an amp head into separate speaker cabinets (or a combo into an extension cabinet) can you use any of the speakers designed for bass available in any music store, or do you have to use something designed especially for steel, like the Peavey Black Widows? |
Bill Ford
Member From: Graniteville SC Aiken
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posted 26 February 2003 04:13 PM
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1501 Black Widow,as per Mike Brown at Peavy,I have a Session 400 w/1501 BW that sounds pretty good,also a Peavy 1-15 encloser that does'nt sound as good,it has a 15" BW,not a 1501.It may be the difference in a closed back on the 1-15 to the open back on the Session.(my 2 cents worth)Bill ------------------
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Donny Hinson
Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 26 February 2003 05:46 PM
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I used SRO-15B's for quite a while...fantastic sound! (Especially on C6th>) You'll notice a very slight loss in the high frequencies, most notably on the harmonics. Other than that, they'll do a fine job, as bass speakers are usually more rugged than other speakers. |
David Doggett
Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 26 February 2003 11:14 PM
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Right Bill, I know the Peavey Black Widows will sound great because they are made for steel (I have one in my Nashville 400). According to the Peavey literature I have, the 1502 holds up to distortion better because it has the cone impregnated with polyethelene or something. The 1501 has a paper cone and sounds a little better but is less rugged. Cabinets of course will make a difference.Donny is getting more at my real question. Aside from subtle sound differences and preferences, my question is whether typical bass 15s will sound completely wrong, or if loud highs will burn out the speakers, or something completely incompatible like that. It sounds like they may work fine. It wouldn't bother me to lose some highs. I usually have the highs dialed way down anyway and the mid and bass way up , so maybe I would be able to set the EQ more toward the middle on everything. I just got a Fessy S12U, and just messing around on the low strings at home I blew the compression circuit and speaker on my Nashville 400. Maybe it was just time for that and when it comes back from repair it'll be okay. But I'm thinking of trying out some of the big tube amp heads like the Mesa Road King, Peavey XXX or the new 350w Marshall Mode Four. They are making these things now with more headroom and more bass capabilities than lead guitar amps in the past to handle the drop tunings and low power chords the metal heads and hard rockers are using these days. So these things might work better for steel than they did in the past. But I would want one or two 15" speakers instead of the 10s or 12s that come with these amps. So I was wondering if I would need to special order speakers made for steel (no steel products in any stores around here), or could I just use a 15" bass cabinet. Thanks for the input Donny, how's that new Millenium? [This message was edited by David Doggett on 27 February 2003 at 01:04 PM.] [This message was edited by David Doggett on 27 February 2003 at 04:12 PM.] |
David Doggett
Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 27 February 2003 07:45 AM
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^Bump - still interested in opinions. |
TonyL
Member From: Vancouver, BC
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posted 27 February 2003 10:49 AM
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I've been using my Ampeg B-100R combo, since I have yet to find a tube amp I like.
http://www.ampeg.com/products.htm?product=20&catid=19 Not sure of the speaker in it, but it has yet to break up. I've been playing non-pedal through it- extremely clean and crisp. TL
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Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 27 February 2003 11:46 AM
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I believe the bass speakers would sound "ok"
but it is my understanding that the speakers made for steel guitar applications are made using a different "paper" for the speakers.
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Steve Hinson
Member From: Hendersonville Tn USA
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posted 27 February 2003 05:42 PM
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I'm using an LTD 400 with a JBL E-140 8 ohm bass speaker in it for local live gigs...it sounds fine...I just turn up the highs a notch.I've got a Standel amp with a D-140 in it...sounds great...I never could tell a great big difference in a bass speaker vs.a guitar speaker. |
David Doggett
Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 28 February 2003 06:06 AM
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^Bump - Thanks guys, any more opinions?[This message was edited by David Doggett on 28 February 2003 at 08:02 AM.] |
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