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Topic: In Ear Monitoring
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Andy Zahnd
Member From: Plaffeien, Switzerland
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posted 12 May 2003 01:23 PM
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Did you ever worked with in ear monitoring. Whats a good unit? Is it working with steel? What is your experience? How about the leadsinger,drummer or bassplayer? Some input would help alot,thanx!------------------
Andy Zahnd
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Darvin Willhoite
Member From: Leander, Tx. USA
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posted 12 May 2003 01:49 PM
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I play steel and guitar in the praise band at my church, and have used in-ears for a couple of years now. I really like mine, but the real key is to have a sound man that can give you a good mix. I use a Shure PSM-600 wireless system, with the E-5 earphones. This is a pretty expensive system, but it works good. None of the earphones I tried have very good low end response, so the bass has to be boosted more than normal.------------------
Darvin Willhoite
Riva Ridge Recording
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Andy Zahnd
Member From: Plaffeien, Switzerland
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posted 12 May 2003 02:01 PM
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what kind of preamp are ya using for the steel to go direct? Are you using a DI Box?
Thanks for the informations!!!  |
Darvin Willhoite
Member From: Leander, Tx. USA
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posted 12 May 2003 03:53 PM
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I use a Digitech 2112 preamp/effects unit, then go to a Countryman DI box. We have a separate monitor mixer for the wedges on stage, but my in-ear mix comes from an auxiliary send on the FOH board. The FOH engineer has a lot better feel for how I want my mix to sound.------------------
Darvin Willhoite
Riva Ridge Recording
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Paul Osbty
Member From: Seattle, Washington, USA
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posted 13 May 2003 12:11 PM
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I also use a Furman headphone system to create the in-ear mix. Works great for stage and studio.
http://www.furmansound.com/pro/hdphn/system2/system2_1.htm |
Darvin Willhoite
Member From: Leander, Tx. USA
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posted 13 May 2003 12:24 PM
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We use the Furman system in our studio, it works great. This would work really well in a live application also, if you don't need a wireless system. Probably one of the best kept secrets in in-ear monitoring is a set of earphones made by Koss and also sold through Radio Shack, for approximately $19.95. The wire is kind of flimsey, and they have a silly mute switch in the cord, but they really sound better than my $400.00 Shure E-5's. The Furman system and these earphones would make a great in-ear system.------------------
Darvin Willhoite
Riva Ridge Recording
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Andy Zahnd
Member From: Plaffeien, Switzerland
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posted 13 May 2003 12:54 PM
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to bad, this fuhrman model is not sold in europe!will go wendsday night to a workshop for in ear monitoring.... hope I will get some input there too... thanks guys!!!!! |
Darrell Schmidt
Member From: Charles City, Iowa, USA
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posted 14 May 2003 07:33 AM
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I have a Shure 400 Personal Monitor system,it allows me to control my vocal,steel and overall monitor mix of the band.I also went to my audioligest (spelling?)and had, sleves molded for my ears.Some place in Colorado did that for under $100.00.Some guys have full molds made for there ear buds.For me the sleves work great.and buds stay in better.I have E-4 and E-5 buds and like them both.
Darrell
"commongroundusa.net"[This message was edited by Darrell Schmidt on 14 May 2003 at 07:35 AM.] |
Paul Osbty
Member From: Seattle, Washington, USA
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posted 19 May 2003 01:46 AM
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Andy,Furman has dealers all over the world. I would be surprised if you were unable to obtain a Furman unit. The units do operate on on 115VAC, though. Here is the link to their dealers:
http://www.furmansound.com/int_reps.htm Your place is Go Wild (a store I guess)
phone 41417200520
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Andy Zahnd
Member From: Plaffeien, Switzerland
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posted 19 May 2003 01:03 PM
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Thanks Paul, will check it out in the next few days. I checked the Shure 400 hardwired system a few days ago. I like it allot. has someone ever tried this out???? Any input? Thanks
Have a good one
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Danny Naccarato
Member From: Ft. Worth, Texas US
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posted 19 May 2003 02:06 PM
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Andy ol boy. I used a Rolls unit which is similiar I think to a more me box. Ran a line from the board to the unit, and a line from the amp (mic'd or direct). That line then continues on to the board. It's called a Rolls Personal Monitor Amp (PM50S). Only $50. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/product/155418/ROPM50S/REG/1817
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Darvin Willhoite
Member From: Leander, Tx. USA
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posted 20 May 2003 09:18 AM
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Danny, our drummer and bass player at my church use the Rolls units with headphones. The whole system with a good set of phones was under $100, and they work great.------------------
Darvin Willhoite
Riva Ridge Recording
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Andy Zahnd
Member From: Plaffeien, Switzerland
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posted 20 May 2003 01:04 PM
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thanks guys.... I will check them to.... if there work... why Shure wanne have that big bucks?  |
Darvin Willhoite
Member From: Leander, Tx. USA
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posted 20 May 2003 01:28 PM
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Shure has some added features such as limiting, and EQ. Also, the Shures have a belt clip, and the Rolls is a box that has to be mounted on a mic stand etc. I would assume that Shure's quality is better, but I really don't know. We haven't had any trouble with the Rolls or the Shure units. We've only been using the Furman units in our studio for about 6 months, but so far, they have worked well.------------------
Darvin Willhoite
Riva Ridge Recording
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Chris Walke
Member From: St Charles, IL
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posted 21 May 2003 04:24 PM
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A buddy of mine told me about a band he recently saw in a club using in-ear monitors. The whole band committed to getting their own transmitters and headsets. What they do is bring their transmitters/receivers, a mixer with 4 aux sends, and a splitter snake. They have the soundman hook up his mics to their splitter, giving him a clean signal to work with. They plug their ends into their mixer, and use the aux sends for their monitors. 4 aux sends, 4 mixes each member can tailor anyway he wants without affecting his bandmates' mixes or the soundman's. They ALWAYS have their preferred mix, and no monitor wedge issues or feedback. They love it, soundmen love it. |
David L. Donald
Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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posted 21 May 2003 04:27 PM
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One thing I think is absolutely mandatory is the limitng stage.
Accidents CAN and DO happen at the mixing board. And very often not the engineers fault in live situations.
If the in-ears can cause ear damaging levels.. an integrated limiter is your only savior from a possible ended career.I have used them and love them, but won't work without a limiter version.
At least with a wedge you can back off. |
Wolfgang Bednarz
Member From: 97848 Rechtenbach/GERMANY
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posted 22 May 2003 01:42 AM
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I use a Fischer Amp InEar Monitorsystem.
Check out my shop:www.steelguitarshop.de
or:www.fischer-amps.de------------------
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Dyke Corson
Member From: Urbana, IL USA
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posted 23 May 2003 10:55 AM
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Check out aviom.com I just found out about this stuff when I attended a Church/School pa install seminar in Memphis last weekend. This unit allows for a 16 channel stereo mix for each person who has one of these neat little mixers that attaches to your mic stand, your house console does not have to have ANY monitor sends for this to work. There is a rack mount unit that takes each of the 16 channels off an insert on the main console, it sends signal to little mixer and gets all 16 stereo channels through a common computer network cable, you can even string these little mixers together. On the little mixer you can adjust level, pan, eq, and save the mix in memory! Pretty cool and not too expensive (compared to Shure) either. I have not heard it, but it sure looks neat! |
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