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Topic: Nashville 112 for Fiddle?
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Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 05 July 2004 11:14 AM
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I've been playing with a fiddler who needs a new amp. Something small and light - she can't carry anything heavy. Does the Peavey Nashville 112 work well for fiddle?
She's been using a Roland Cube and it sucks.------------------
 Bobby Lee - email: quasar@b0b.com - gigs - CDs, Open Hearts
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Ken Fox
Member From: Ray City, GA USA
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posted 05 July 2004 12:25 PM
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They sure sounded good at Dallas for fiddles this year. I would say it should do well! |
Paddy Long
Member From: Christchurch, New Zealand
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posted 05 July 2004 01:46 PM
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If they want to pay for it I would go for the Nashville 1000, you can play this amp anywhere without worrying about any lack of power!! It's not that heavy either. Brilliant steel amp. |
Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 05 July 2004 07:49 PM
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I'm sure that a Nashville 1000 is too heavy for this little gal to haul around, and it's more $ than she can afford on a school teacher's salary. |
Tracy Sheehan
Member From: Fort Worth, Texas, USA
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posted 05 July 2004 11:18 PM
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b0b.I do not have a 112 but do have an old Bandit 65 and amd sure the 112 has a much better sound.The last pro amp i used for years before retiring was the LTD 400 which got too heavy as i got older.I played fiddle before taking up steel.I don't remember the year but do recall i had a pet dinosaur.Of course i started on tube amps and IMOP i thought any amp took away from the natural sound of a good fiddle.I doubled on fiddle in many bands.What i am trying to say is i believe the Peavey would make a great amp for the fiddle and if she coulden't get the volume she wanted i would get with a band that didn't play so #@$%* loud.Also my self and many fiddle players used a DOD equalizer which will mellow out the sound.They are around 100 buckas i think but she might not need one.IMHP i would say go for the lighter 112.Tracy |
Tracy Sheehan
Member From: Fort Worth, Texas, USA
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posted 05 July 2004 11:21 PM
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b0b as i also played fiddle i would say go with the lighter Peavey 112.IF she can't get the volume she needs i would say get with a band that doesn't play so *%$@# loud.Hope i didn't post this twice.Have had phone line trouble for a week since the flood.Tracy |
Tracy Sheehan
Member From: Fort Worth, Texas, USA
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posted 05 July 2004 11:39 PM
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Sorry is i posted more than once.Things have been a mess here since the flood.600 homes in So.Ft Worth lost phone service.Flooded and shorted out a gillion underground phone cables.At times after they thought it was all fixed some phones encluding mine would work for a short time then quit.think this hapenened again as i tried to post.Tracy |
John Floyd
Member From: Somewhere between Camden County , NC and Saluda S.C.
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posted 05 July 2004 11:51 PM
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Believe it or not there isn't a lot of difference in weight between a 1000 and a 112 due to the 1000 having the digital poweramp and a much smaller power transformer even closer in weight, when the 112 has a black widow installed. When and if Peavey ever comes out with the Neo Black Widow they would be very close in weight.Your right about the Roland Cube amps, they suck big time. The only decent amp Roland ever made was the JC-120 and they are big and not all that roadworthy even tho they give the appearance of being tough and durable. |
Leon Grizzard
Member From: Austin, Texas, USA
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posted 06 July 2004 08:19 AM
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How about the Peavey Ecoustic amps for fiddle? |
Craig A Davidson
Member From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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posted 06 July 2004 08:35 AM
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A Bandit 112 will work also. It has 80watts and is clean. ------------------
1985 Emmons push-pull,S-10 Marlin,Evans SE200,Hilton pedal |
Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 06 July 2004 09:11 AM
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I should mention that 1)it's not a loud band, and 2)she doesn't have a lot of money. Even the Nashville 112 would strain her budget. Before the Cube (which is borrowed from a band member), she was using an old Kustom PA head and a pair of home stereo speakers.
What exactly is the difference in weight between the 112 and the 1000? The 1000's I've seen are BIG amps.------------------
Bobby Lee - email: quasar@b0b.com - gigs - CDs, Open Hearts
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John Fabian
Member From: Mesquite, Texas USA
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posted 06 July 2004 09:23 AM
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nv1000 56 Lbs.
nv112 42 Lbs.------------------
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Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 06 July 2004 09:40 AM
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3 sacks of potatoes vs. 4. I'm not even sure that she could carry 3. Thanks, John.
Any suggestions for something a little lighter/cheaper?------------------
Bobby Lee - email: quasar@b0b.com - gigs - CDs, Open Hearts
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Len Amaral
Member From: Rehoboth,MA 02769
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posted 06 July 2004 10:05 AM
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The Polytone Mini Brute series has a nice vibe and is in the 100 watt range and very portable. However, the reverb in the Mini Brute II and IV is weak and not pleasant sounding. |
seldomfed
Member From: Colorado
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posted 06 July 2004 12:11 PM
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I've used my AER Compact 60 for fiddle and it sounds great. But they are expensive. Suggest trying some of the other acoustic guitar amps out there by Roland, Crate, Fender. They are light, and usually always have a full complement of tone control, reverb, XLR out, and a notch filter of some kind. And always lighter than most amps.I used to use my Mini Brute II, it's not bad, but as said, the reverb is not pleasent. They can be found used for not much. Chris |
Ken Fox
Member From: Ray City, GA USA
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posted 06 July 2004 12:13 PM
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Considering the frequrency range of a fiddle, 80 watts should blow you away in most any band situation. If you have ever bi-amped or tri-amped a PA you know that the larger power amps are needed for the larger bass and low mid frequencies. Most compression drivers in two-way systems are 100 watt or less! A model 22T Peavey driver is only rated for 40 watts continuous power!!![This message was edited by Ken Fox on 06 July 2004 at 12:14 PM.] |
Chris Bauer
Member From: Nashville, TN USA
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posted 06 July 2004 12:51 PM
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Sounds like a good candidate for an inexpensive but solid stage condenser mic and a dedicated input on the PA. (?) |
Chuck Halcomb
Member From: Wichita, Kansas, USA
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posted 06 July 2004 03:39 PM
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Johnny Gimble uses a Polytone and even at 78 years old, he sounds good when he plays that fiddle through it. Especially if you add Herb Remington into the mix! (Herb also uses a Polytone).------------------
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Rex Blevins
Member From: Tulsa, Oklahoma USA
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posted 07 July 2004 06:38 PM
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Buy a 112.. If you don't like what is coming through it, put a Black Widow in it. I have been using one for over two months and these guys I play with play LOUD.. Can't recommend this amp enough. I also had a JBL K-120 re-coned and put it in there, GREAT AMP.. |
John Floyd
Member From: Somewhere between Camden County , NC and Saluda S.C.
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posted 07 July 2004 07:44 PM
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How about an evans with a 12" Speaker They have a A couple of models with one having 100 watts and the other having 200 watts
Weight is around 38lbs. for the 100 watt unit.
http://www.evansamps.com/ [This message was edited by John Floyd on 07 July 2004 at 07:49 PM.]
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Randy Beavers
Member From: Lebanon,TN 37090
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posted 08 July 2004 04:48 AM
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The budget should also be determined by the life, and customer service of the product. Peavey wins hands down in both areas. If she ever has a problem in the warranty time, peavey will take care of it very fast. Outside of warranty, Peavey is fast, reasonable, and friendly. I believe everyone agrees they offer the most "bang for the buck." |
Leon Grizzard
Member From: Austin, Texas, USA
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posted 08 July 2004 08:59 AM
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I asked this above and got no repsonse, I am hoping just because the thread rolled on quickly: how about the Peavy Ecoustic amps for fiddle? |
James Morehead
Member From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA
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posted 08 July 2004 09:36 AM
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Our fiddle player has an Ernie Ball volume pedal, and from that, she runs straight to the mixer. We can put her where we want her in the mix, and she sounds fantastic!! She can easily carry two cords and a volume pedal, and she doesn't have the expence of an amp. She tried an amp, but half the band couldn't hear her. When my son plays fiddle, he just gets close to the vocal mike, and is heard fine, too. Works for us. |
Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 08 July 2004 11:00 AM
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The Ecoustic 112 might work well, but it's too expensive and a bit on the heavy side. Also, it looks sort of complex to operate. |
Jeff Hogsten
Member From: Flatwoods Ky USA
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posted 09 July 2004 07:05 AM
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In my opion you need a amp that has a tweeter or horn to carry a full range sound, guitar amps just dont cut it for acoustic instruments. Im sure I will get respnses saying they hear so and so at a place playing through a amp and it sounded really. That could be true but if ever hear it through a full range system you would tell a difference. I would look at some of the powered speakers on the market like mackie or the behringers JBL eons or sampson. Fender also makes some nice acoustic amps that are pretty small |
John Egenes
Member From: Santa Fe, NM
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posted 10 July 2004 07:54 AM
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Bob,
Does she use a preamp? This is actually more important than anything when using acoustic instruments onstage. I play mandolin, dobro, acoustic guitar, fiddle, etc, onstage all the time, and it can be a nightmare.The 112 would be a perfectly fine amp for her, but it's gonna suck if she just plugs straight into it. What kind of pickup/preamp system is she using? IMO, the preamp is more important than the pickup, and more important than the amp, but none of them will give good tone by itself. best, john egenes |
Mike Brown
Member From: Meridian, Mississippi USA
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posted 10 July 2004 09:47 AM
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The Nashville 112 amp is a very good fiddle amp. The speaker that was designed for this amp worked very well during the beta testing for fiddle. Just a note, a lot of fiddle players use the Peavey Special 130 for fiddle. But, I believe that it is heavier than the Nashville 112. I recommend the Nashville 112 for fiddle. As a matter of fact, I believe that fiddle control settings are in the operating guide. I'll be back in the office on July 12th, so if you have questions, feel free to contact me toll free in North America at 1-877-732-8391 and I'll be glad to assist. Mike Brown
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Peter
Member From: Cape Town, South Africa
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posted 10 July 2004 12:46 PM
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What about a used Ibanez GX60?
Light and not expensive.
If a used one is on offer, you can always give it a trial. |
Harley Morris
Member From: Riverside, California, USA
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posted 18 July 2004 10:18 PM
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This gal is in a pickle for sure..I play a "Rave" 5 string elecric fiddle, and have been for for around 2 years now. Prior to that I used a 5 string acoustic fiddle. I use a Carvin X-60 for fiddle (with a 12" JBL)amd have been using that amp for at least 16 years, and I've never heard a better sounding amp for fiddle. Most of your Peavy amps are just too powerful. I had a crate for a short time, and that was pretty fair, but didn't compare to the Carvin. The idea of her using a EB volume pedal is a pretty good idea, providing she knows how to "lay-out" like sooooo many muscians never learn to do. This would really cut down on the weight problem that she seems to have..She could always get the bass player to carry her amp in for her, and maybe the lead man to carry it out for her... That would work... |
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