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Topic: Tweed lacquering..polyurethane??
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David Spangler
Member From: Kerrville, TX USA
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posted 18 February 2005 08:34 AM
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I just built a WeberVST amp kit which came with a Mojotone pine, tweed-covered cab. I like the color but wonder if painting with polyurethane would be a good choice to improve durability. I don't really care for the dark, heavily lacquered appearance I have seen on some amps. Any suggestions? ------------------
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Rick Johnson
Member From: Wheelwright, Ky USA
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posted 18 February 2005 12:34 PM
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David
On the tweed cabs I make, I use
a couple of coats of Amber Shellac
followed by a coat of satin poly.
They turn out pretty nice.------------------
Rick Johnson
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Ken Fox
Member From: Ray City, GA USA
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posted 18 February 2005 12:38 PM
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I have used and will again soon Honey Pine Polurethane by Minwax. 2 coats will do it!Here is a link to the 1957 Deluxe I restored with a Mojotone cab, using Minwax Honey Pine:
http://community.webshots.com/album/276821816RhsBvA?890 [This message was edited by Ken Fox on 18 February 2005 at 12:44 PM.] [This message was edited by Ken Fox on 18 February 2005 at 12:45 PM.] |
David Spangler
Member From: Kerrville, TX USA
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posted 19 February 2005 07:10 AM
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Ken, thanks...that's what I was hoping for. Being basically lazy, this is really easy. First coat already looks great!------------------
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Ken Fox
Member From: Ray City, GA USA
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posted 19 February 2005 07:29 AM
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I even darkens more with the second coat, the stuff is just great! |
Jay Ganz
Member From: Out Behind The Barn
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posted 19 February 2005 12:20 PM
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That Honey Pine is actually Minwax "Polyshades".
It's great for a "golden" color. If your after
a slightly more "orange" tint, then go with
the amber shellac. The old original tweeds
that I have are sort of inbetween the two.
That's why it's awful tricky to really get an
exact match.[This message was edited by Jay Ganz on 19 February 2005 at 12:21 PM.] |
Jody Carver
Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever
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posted 19 February 2005 01:24 PM
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How do you apply it? I have seen these done at the factory years ago but have not seen what is available today. Back then they used something that was consistent in color.Brush or rag? I would like to do a project but I dont want that orange look. edited
Years ago the material was sprayed on and each color shade was the same. I dont know if I would take this chance other than protecting the tweed I would'nt want to mess something up.[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 19 February 2005 at 01:26 PM.] |
Ken Fox
Member From: Ray City, GA USA
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posted 19 February 2005 02:14 PM
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Jody, I just brush it on. As you can see from the links it was a nice look. Click on each picture to enlarge.
Also did a 1957 Super that was re-tweeded, it was applied with hide glue. Mojo does not use hide glue (animal glue). But none the less the Polyshades MiniWax worked very well. I have a new cab coming, a low power 50's tweed reproduction. It will get the same look.[This message was edited by Ken Fox on 19 February 2005 at 02:16 PM.]
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Jody Carver
Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever
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posted 19 February 2005 03:39 PM
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Thanks Ken
I bought a few yards of tweed from mojo..I'll try what you suggested and hold you responsible  Thanks |
Ken Fox
Member From: Ray City, GA USA
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posted 19 February 2005 04:10 PM
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How are you applying it? Remember to do the brush work after it is on the amp!Good luck, Jody!! |
Jody Carver
Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever
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posted 19 February 2005 05:23 PM
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Ken
I am considering wall papering my entire house with tweed. I'll let you know how it works out and maybe someone can post the photo's for me. Thanks my friend edited to add T&V volume pedals to flush the toilets rather than the old fashioned way. [This message was edited by Jody Carver on 19 February 2005 at 05:25 PM.] |
Ken Fox
Member From: Ray City, GA USA
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posted 20 February 2005 05:56 AM
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Now there's a fashion statement! But too much tweed could become tiring on the eyes. Might I suggest wainscot, upper half tweed and the lower half vintage Fender Tolex of the chocolate brown variety? Hardwood floors with old Fender Steel guitar front body panels as an inlay may set the whole thing off, too! Don't forget to have a music room, complete with wet bar in roll and tuck, you guessed it Tolex. A smattering of old Fender neon signs in order as well.A guy just can't have too much Fender around the house!!
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David Spangler
Member From: Kerrville, TX USA
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posted 20 February 2005 11:19 AM
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Just a precaution, don't apply heavy coats or it will take much longer to dry.------------------
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David Spangler
Member From: Kerrville, TX USA
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posted 21 February 2005 05:15 PM
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The MojoTone cab interior bare wood must have been sealed with something that was attacked by the MinWax. I ended up having to remove it with rags wet with mineral spirits to get it to dry. Ken says he doesn't apply MinWax to the interior and has no such problems. It seems to work just fine on the tweed. So...anyone planning to do a MojoTone cab, KEEP IT OFF THE INTERIOR WOOD!------------------
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Ken Fox
Member From: Ray City, GA USA
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posted 21 February 2005 05:24 PM
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Most interiors can be stained to take on the old look. Test first in an inconspicuous place.How is it looking on the Tweed, Dave?[This message was edited by Ken Fox on 21 February 2005 at 05:24 PM.] |
David Spangler
Member From: Kerrville, TX USA
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posted 21 February 2005 10:55 PM
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Ken, I applied the second coat this afternoon and it looks great. It already is dry to the touch. The color tone is a nice amber with lots of character. Finally, I will get to assemble and use it this week.Thanks for your suggestions. ------------------
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Rick Johnson
Member From: Wheelwright, Ky USA
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posted 22 February 2005 05:05 AM
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I stain the inside of all my
tweed cabs with a opaque or
watered down coat of redwood
stain.------------------
Rick Johnson
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Geoff Brown
Member From: Nashvegas
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posted 23 February 2005 10:05 PM
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I have used the Minwax Polyshades as well. Honey Pine satin. The trick is to go with light coats. Heavy coats will give the amp too much gloss. 2 will do it. First coat makes you wonder if it's going to do the trick, but the 2nd coat really fixes the color. Corners and rounded edges tend to accumulate the stuff, so you have to be a bit careful and make sure to apply it lightly. Also stir it well (and frequently) to keep the pigments suspended. |
Ken Fox
Member From: Ray City, GA USA
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posted 24 February 2005 05:53 AM
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Good suggestion on stirring, I had forgotten about that! I remember now (it has been 5 or 6 years since I did the 1957 Deluxe) that I used the little foam rubber paint brushes. I bought a six pack and just the them out as I used them. That probably helped keep me from applying too thick a coat. Having another one to do soon makes me glad we brought all this up! I hope the Tweed Twin I do comes out as good as the Deluxe did!
David, you should post some shots if you can!
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