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Kevin Ruddell
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From: Toledo Ohio USA

posted 01 May 2005 04:20 AM     profile     
I ordered a Blue Marvel speaker for an extension cabinet for my Peavey Classic 30 and was wondering what the difference ( other than price ) is between those and the Scorpion and Black Widow speakers that Peavey makes ? Thanks in advance for any info.
Tom Gorr
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From: Three Hills, Alberta

posted 01 May 2005 11:44 AM     profile     
I'd like to know too !
jim milewski
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From: stowe, vermont

posted 01 May 2005 01:53 PM     profile     
the scorpian has a fine screen for the dust cover which in my estimation means it won't push air like an aluminum or paper cover, which would change it tone wise to other speakers, wonder why they did that?
Mike Brown
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From: Meridian, Mississippi USA

posted 02 May 2005 08:21 AM     profile     
There are quite few differences between the Peavey Blue Marvel and the Peavey Scorpion speakers. The first big difference is the the Scorpion Series features out replacable basket technology.............the Blue Marvel is a speaker that we have made to our specifications for certain amplifier/instrument applications.

The Scorpion Series can handle 200 watts and the various Blue Marvel speakers are spec'd out to handle the power for the application that they are used for.

Mike Brown
Peavey Electronics Corporation

Tom Gorr
Member

From: Three Hills, Alberta

posted 02 May 2005 10:30 AM     profile     
Mike - What applications does the Blue Marvel excel in ?

I personally think the Scorp's are the best speaker around for electric guitar. A 1x12 Scorpion with a MB Formula preamp and Peavey 50/50 power amp is the sweetest clean sound EVER !! It'll make you weep.

Tom Gorr
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From: Three Hills, Alberta

posted 07 May 2005 08:39 PM     profile     
Does anyone know how a Telecaster sounds through a Blue Marvel ? Compared to Scorpion ?
Jack Stoner
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From: Inverness, Florida

posted 08 May 2005 02:59 AM     profile     
Tim, you have to take in consideration what the speaker was designed for and it's frequency range.

A speaker designed for a Lead Guitar amp is much different than one designed for a Steel Guitar amp. Same way with the speaker (amp) enclosure - the enclosures would be designed for different frequency responses.

You would have to have one particular model of a speaker to make a valid comparison.

Mike Brown
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From: Meridian, Mississippi USA

posted 09 May 2005 09:46 AM     profile     
What Jack said. Also, the replaceable basket feature is a marketing/selling tool.
Terje Larson
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From: Rinkeby, Spånga, Sweden

posted 10 May 2005 11:55 AM     profile     
Posted by Jack Stoner:
"A speaker designed for a Lead Guitar amp is much different than one designed for a Steel Guitar amp."

What would be the main difference? I'm wondering since I'm interested in this topic as I'm playing slide on an elelctric balalajka, having the same range as a violin, and I wonder if there is anything out there that will work better with my playing style which is more and more going in the direction of trying to emulate the sound of a steel guitar pedal steel.

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Jack Stoner
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From: Inverness, Florida

posted 10 May 2005 01:18 PM     profile     
Mike Brown has addressed this several times, and better than I can.

But, the "voicing" or response of speakers will vary depending on the application it's designed for. At one time there wasn't any differentiation and we had "guitar" speakers.

For example the Peavey Black Widow 1501 speaker is a paper cone and with a very wide frequency response. It was developed for Pedal Steel Guitar and it's frequency range. Before the 1501, Peavey used Bass speakers for Pedal Steel (e.g. the Black Widow 1502). According to Mike, the "Blue Marvel" speaker used in the Nashville 112 is a custom model speaker, not a standard "guitar amp" speaker.

Another example is the 15" Eminence "Delta Lite" speaker that Evans has used in their Steel Guitar Amps. Eminence lists this model speaker as a Bass speaker.

The Nashville 400 "Pedal Steel Guitar Amplifier" is popular with fiddle players.

However, if you are trying to emulate a steel with some other instrument I don't think the speaker will help you.

Terje Larson
Member

From: Rinkeby, Spånga, Sweden

posted 10 May 2005 09:17 PM     profile     
Originally posted by Jack Stoner:
"However, if you are trying to emulate a steel with some other instrument I don't think the speaker will help you."

You're probably right, it'll be the least of my problems. Just wondering though what the difference might be.

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