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Joe Alterio
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From: Fishers, Indiana

posted 16 May 2005 07:53 AM     profile     
Hi all,

When I was at the Indy show last weekend, I happened to meet a fellow steel player who lived not five miles from me. He told me the story of seeing Lloyd Green in concert back in the mid-1970s and wanted to play just like him....so much so that he went to the stage after the show and wrote down his exact amp settings from the Session 400 he was playing.....his intent was to buy the same exact setup that Lloyd had. The guy still had the piece of paper he wrote the settings down on with him in his wallet!

I'll post the settings in a second. The interesting part of the story, as he told it, was that the local music store held a contest and the winner would receive a free pack-a-seat. Well, this indivual won the seat....but it wasn't just ANY seat....he won the seat that Lloyd used to play his concert. The fellow still has the seat, and today plays a Sho-Bud LDG through a Session 400. Interesting!!!

Anyhow, here are Lloyd's settings circa the mid-1970s:

Volume: 7
Presence: 4
Treble: 7
Mid: 3
Shift: 10
Bass: 10
Reverb: 4
Sensitivity: 4


For what it's worth, I feel the following settings are the best to my ears:

Volume: 5
Presence: 7.5
Treble: 6
Mid: 3
Shift: 7
Bass: 10
Reverb: 4
Sensitivity: 5 - 10

Joe

[This message was edited by Joe Alterio on 16 May 2005 at 07:54 AM.]

Hook Moore
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From: South Charleston,West Virginia

posted 16 May 2005 12:25 PM     profile     
Good story. You could not stand to be on the same block with my mid 70s session turned up to 7. Thats loud!
Hook

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Gary Preston
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From: Columbus, Ohio, USA

posted 18 May 2005 02:43 PM     profile     
Hi guys . There was a post that had several settings for the Nashville 400 amps . I wrote them down and lost them before i could try them . Does anyone know how to retrive those settings again ? I would appreciate it very much ,Thanks , Gary .
Bob Lawrence
Member

From: Lwr Sackville, Nova Scotia, Canada

posted 18 May 2005 06:28 PM     profile     
Gary,

Just do a search under electronics.

Here's a few:
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum11/HTML/000293.html
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum11/HTML/001997.html
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum11/HTML/000864.html

Joe Alterio
Member

From: Fishers, Indiana

posted 19 May 2005 06:27 AM     profile     
I played for about an hour last night with my regular settings, then followed up playing another hour using Lloyd's settings. My initial impression was that the sound was MUCH fuller, if not darker. Yet, I started to grow to like it....I might keep using those settings.

Anyone else tried them?

Joe

Donny Hinson
Member

From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.

posted 19 May 2005 05:54 PM     profile     
Joe, the two lists of settings you gave illustrate one thing quite well, a sort of pet "peave" of mine. When players have their bass controls (or any tone controls, for that matter) "maxed-out", it shows their amps are deficient in that particular area.

Few amps have ample bass response.

Gary Preston
Member

From: Columbus, Ohio, USA

posted 19 May 2005 05:59 PM     profile     
Hi, Bob i tried that but to no avail . Thanks for your suggestions . Best regards,,,Gary .
James Cann
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From: Phoenix, AZ (heart still in Boston)

posted 19 May 2005 07:58 PM     profile     
quote:
You could not stand to be on the same block with my mid 70s session turned up to 7. Thats loud!

Amen! At that setting, could you even see Mr. G's right foot move!!

Bobby Lee
Sysop

From: Cloverdale, North California, USA

posted 20 May 2005 11:14 AM     profile     
Donny wrote:
quote:
Joe, the two lists of settings you gave illustrate one thing quite well, a sort of pet "peave" of mine. When players have their bass controls (or any tone controls, for that matter) "maxed-out", it shows their amps are deficient in that particular area.

Few amps have ample bass response.


Jerry Byrd did the same thing. I think that if the player is really a lead instrument player (like Lloyd and Jerry), the full bass approach is valid. Their guitars do not produce bass fundamentals. Maxing the bass control helps to bring out any low harmonics that those high strings produce. It would probably sound boomy on the bottom two strings of a C6th, but players like Lloyd Green never have to worry about that.

I always start with the bass control at max, and then pull it back until the boom effect on my low strings disappears.

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