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Topic: Rack tuner consensus ?
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Bo Borland
Member From: Cowtown NJ
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posted 12 November 2005 05:56 AM
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Without trying to open any old topics, can anyone give me a consensus opinion on what the most favored digital rack tuner for PSG is?
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Bo Borland
All my gear is vintage!
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Bob Knight
Member From: Bowling Green KY
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posted 12 November 2005 06:15 AM
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Korg DTR-1 |
David Spangler
Member From: Kerrville, TX USA
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posted 12 November 2005 08:16 AM
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Korg DTR-1 |
Jack Stoner
Sysop From: Inverness, Florida
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posted 12 November 2005 09:23 AM
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I had a Korg DTR2000 (the replacement for the DTR1) and if I hadn't bought a Peteron VS-II, I'd still have it. It was the most accurate tuner other than the Peterson's. According to what I read on the DTR-2000 they "fixed" problems that were in the DTR-1. I don't remember what they were but that was one of the selling points. |
Hook Moore
Member From: South Charleston,West Virginia
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posted 12 November 2005 03:39 PM
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I have the DTR-2000 in my rack.
Hook------------------
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George Redmon
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posted 17 November 2005 06:40 PM
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Bo..i keep this Sabine in my studio. I've had it for years now. Guitar and bass players love it. And it does a good job on steel as well.
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CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 18 November 2005 01:52 AM
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Korg DTR 1 does it fer me
quite a complete unit : jack tester, note indicator, Herz, Cents & Strobe tuning
i got a Sabine tuner fer a steeler here & he's quite happy w: his tooso much gear , so little time..... 
[This message was edited by CrowBear Schmitt on 18 November 2005 at 01:54 AM.] |
Len Amaral
Member From: Rehoboth,MA 02769
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posted 18 November 2005 07:38 AM
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I have the DTR-2000 and you can see those led lights on a dark stage with no problem. I also have the Boss TU-12H tuner and that works well but I need the eye glases to read that one. |
John Daugherty
Member From: Rolla, Missouri, USA
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posted 18 November 2005 07:46 AM
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I have not tried a lot of tuners. I use the Korg DTR-1 in my rack and also use one in my home studio. They work ! The thing I like best, is the large display which I can see well. If you decide to use the DTR-1, isolate the power cord ground terminal by using a 3 to 2 prong AC adaptor. This will eliminate hum problems.------------------
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Bo Borland
Member From: Cowtown NJ
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posted 18 November 2005 08:12 AM
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Thanks for all the opinions neighbors, I can see there is no real consensus on the model that most players use.
I have used my Korg WT12 for years but I am tired of twisting the dial over & over. So I thought I would make a move to 21st century technology. I got a very good deal on a lightly used DTR 1000, mounted it in my modified rack case and am thrilled with the speed at which I can get tuned up. Its very easy to use, calibrates itself, doesn't have too many options that are unnecessary to me. I guess I will sell my WT12 pretty soon. Thanks again for all your input. Bo |
David L. Donald
Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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posted 18 November 2005 09:22 AM
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I tried Crowbears DTR-1 a few times,
works great and no negatives for me at all.Checked out a couple of Petersons at ISGC,
and they are comprehenisve.
I liked that you could program your preferences for detuning
JT, ET or your own oddball for multiple steels.
Maybe not as visually large as the DTR's but nice unit for sure For simple and relatively cheap,
the Boss units have been around for years,
small and work well in bad lighting[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 18 November 2005 at 09:24 AM.] |
richard burton
Member From: Britain
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posted 18 November 2005 11:52 AM
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The problem with big, easily read displays, is that other people on the stage can see them too.
So, when you're tuning the cabinet drop out, etc, by deliberately going higher/lower than the readout datum, you've got the singer and drummer yelling at you that you've gone past the mark, you dummy!!
IMO, it's far better to have an unobtrusive, cheap tuner, for your eyes only ! |
John Daugherty
Member From: Rolla, Missouri, USA
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posted 18 November 2005 04:33 PM
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Richard, my old eyes can't see "unobtrusive", but my ears work good at filtering remarks from drummers or singers.
Different strokes for different folks, especially us old codgers.------------------
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Paddy Long
Member From: Christchurch, New Zealand
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posted 18 November 2005 05:09 PM
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I use the DTR 1000 which is also very good - has a nice big display which is easy to read.
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Chris Bauer
Member From: Nashville, TN USA
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posted 18 November 2005 05:31 PM
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And here I thought the word "consensus" was banned in any conversation related to steel guitar! |
David L. Donald
Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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posted 18 November 2005 10:56 PM
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Richard, you actual would, listen to the drummer
when tuning ANYTHING????
LOL I have ended up tuning too many drummers kits in the studio over the years,
to ever listen to a "drummer" when tuning myself.
Now a rare few percusionistas are also
good musicians on other instruments,
but usually those ones know better than to comment on others tuning... The simple answer to this issue is the Peterson.
Once you program in your detuning/tempering choices,
then EVRYTHING looks tuned straight up on the meters.
Only YOU know it ain't
[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 18 November 2005 at 10:58 PM.] |
Bo Borland
Member From: Cowtown NJ
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posted 19 November 2005 08:45 AM
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I tuned up last nite with the DTR1000, tuning straight up, then checked the tuning against my WT12, every note was within less than +/- 5 cents. Obviously the meter on the WT12 is more sensitive and easier to read exact pitch. I thought that was pretty good. Then I checked it with my ears, checking all the harmonics and only had to touch up a couple to tune out the beats. Overall I am quite satisfied with the DTR1000. I am willing to trade off the +/- less than 5 cents differnece and tweak by ear for the speed of tuning up. ------------------
Bo Borland
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Jack Stoner
Sysop From: Inverness, Florida
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posted 19 November 2005 10:46 AM
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+/- 5 cents is quite a difference, or at least can be quite a difference. The WT-12 is a "manual" tuner with a mechanical meter and can be way off compared to today's all electronic displays (meters) and the much more accurate internal electronics.The Korg DTR1000/2000 Tuner's accuracy is +/- 1 cent. The Peterson VS-II accuracy is 1/10 cent. |
Wayne Morgan
Member From: Rutledge, TN, USA
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posted 19 November 2005 08:01 PM
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I have a DTR1 and also a DTR2, like them both
one in rack at home and one in rack at the gig |
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