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Topic: Biggest Amp In Town
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Jim Walker Member From: Florida Panhandle
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posted 17 January 2006 04:10 PM
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Don't Mess With Me, I Got The Biggest Amp In Town!
But a little guitar. HaHa! I decided just to plug it into my PA system and It Sounds AMAZING! I'm running Direct in to a Yorkville M1610 1600 watt 10 channel Powered Mixer. It has a built in pre amp on channels 5 and 6 that is made for acoustic or electric instruments that need a little oomph! It works great for steel. The mixer has excelent effects and it pushes 4 15's and 2 12's with ease in full rich stereo @ 800 watts a side. A CAVS 203 Karaoke Player sits in the bottom of the rack and serves as my back up band along with 3500 songs on Karaoke CD+G's. Now only if I knew how to play steel, I'd be a portable PSG Concert! ------------------ Tele-Bender-Blaster-Caster Line 6 Amps www.jimwalkeronline.com Steelin' Again Too!
[This message was edited by Jim Walker on 17 January 2006 at 04:16 PM.]
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Jon Light Member From: Brooklyn, NY
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posted 17 January 2006 04:14 PM
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Get back to me when you have a real speaker system, sonny. |
Jim Walker Member From: Florida Panhandle
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posted 17 January 2006 04:18 PM
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HAHAHA!!!! |
Larry Jamieson Member From: Walton, NY USA
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posted 17 January 2006 05:14 PM
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Hey Jim, Nice amp... I'm glad I don't have to carry one like it to my gigs. My Nashville 1000 is heavy enough! Larry J. |
Bob Knight Member From: Bowling Green KY
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posted 17 January 2006 05:17 PM
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NOT HARDLY 54,000 watts (RMS) of custom amplifiers from Tycobrahe Sound Company. [This message was edited by Bob Knight on 17 January 2006 at 05:25 PM.] |
John Fabian Member From: Mesquite, Texas USA
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posted 17 January 2006 05:21 PM
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Good lookin' steel, Jim. |
Jon Light Member From: Brooklyn, NY
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posted 17 January 2006 05:31 PM
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Jim Walker Member From: Florida Panhandle
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posted 17 January 2006 05:47 PM
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You Guys Are Hilarious. I knew this post would stir things up a little. I said the biggest amp in town, not the world! LMAO.------------------ Tele-Bender-Blaster-Caster Line 6 Amps www.jimwalkeronline.com Steelin' Again Too! |
Darvin Willhoite Member From: Leander, Tx. USA
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posted 17 January 2006 07:27 PM
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Huh?? Whats that you say??------------------ Darvin Willhoite Riva Ridge Recording
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David L. Donald Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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posted 18 January 2006 04:20 AM
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Ain't it drole that Jerry Garcia, wins the biggest steel amp contest LOL .  My neighbor Don actualy saw Jerry play steel through this last picture of a speaker stack! Thankfully we can now play through smaller systems and get better sound. We play though this system regularly, and own a smaller version for up to 1000 seat venues. Empad, is compact and VERY clean. 140 db at 10 meters from basic system.[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 18 January 2006 at 04:29 AM.] |
David Doggett Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 18 January 2006 08:13 AM
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I'll save money and take a seat near the back.That reminds me of a theoretical question. I know sound volume drops off with the inverse of the square of the distance. But that would seem to be for a sound source radiating in all directions. Does the sound from a directed speaker system still drop off that fast? |
Mark Eaton Member From: Windsor, Sonoma County, CA
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posted 18 January 2006 11:34 AM
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I think I had my ears permanently damaged by the Dead's infamous "wall of sound" on more than one occasion. ------------------ Mark
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Jon Light Member From: Brooklyn, NY
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posted 18 January 2006 11:54 AM
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I was not a gear geek at the time (plus I have a couple of other, um, excuses why I can't recall details too well) so I don't remember what the nature of the Dead's system was at the Fillmore East when I saw them (I do remember coming out onto 2nd Avenue after the show and the sun was rising) but what I do recall very well was not excessive decibel overload but, rather, a sonic clarity that was downright uncanny. The sound of Phil Lesh's bass--it could rumble your gonads yet still carry every inflection of the string attack and be sweet--I mean not just bottom but TONE. And this was true of the whole band's sonic palette--such clarity and detail. |
David Doggett Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 18 January 2006 12:37 PM
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Maybe a lot of speakers being driven moderately give better clarity than one or a few speakers being driven hard - makes sense. |
Bobby Lee Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 18 January 2006 01:27 PM
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quote: 140 db at 10 meters from basic system.
Can the human ear survive exposure to 140 db? I thought that the limit was somewhere around 125 db. |
Chris Erbacher Member From: Sausalito, California, USA
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posted 18 January 2006 01:27 PM
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mark, consider yourself lucky, i am too young to have experienced the wall of sound, it looks like something from outerspace in pictures. what i want to know is whether jerry and the boys used earplugs or not? |
Jim Eaton Member From: Santa Susana, Ca
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posted 18 January 2006 01:33 PM
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Gimmy all you money or I'll play a chord! LOL JE:-)> |
T. C. Furlong Member From: Vernon Hills, Illinois, USA
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posted 19 January 2006 06:37 PM
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The human ear can survive 140dB but not for very long and it's really painful. Hearing discomfort for most people starts at about 95 dB and pain starts at about 120 dB. Acoustic trauma (A.K.A. ototrauma) is what happens after an exposure to this type of level. Also, some of our Dead Head friends may not have heard but Dr. Don Pearson passed away suddenly during a routine medical procedure last week. Don was the sound system engineer for the Grateful Dead and the co-founder of UltraSound the Dead's sound company. Those of us who knew and loved Dr. Don were deeply saddened by his passing. TC |
Richard Sinkler Member From: Fremont, California
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posted 19 January 2006 08:57 PM
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Some interesting reading on the Dead's wall of sound.Wall of Sound |
David L. Donald Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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posted 20 January 2006 12:06 AM
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Yes b0b and TC quite right.No way do we run at 140db for shows... Just because it CAN, doesn't mean to do it! But you always want head room. The systems without it blow up a lot and distort earlier, and give the audience head aches. If you got MORE head room than you need, for those occasional and unexpected bad peaks, but run it at a reasonable level, you get a great sound. I gotta tell ya, 35,000 watts sure can sound good, never a HINT of grunge, that you didn't add from the stage.
[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 20 January 2006 at 02:35 AM.] |
David Mason Member From: Cambridge, MD, USA
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posted 20 January 2006 04:53 AM
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Dr. Freud might have quite a time with you fellows....  |
Brad Sarno Member From: St. Louis, MO USA
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posted 20 January 2006 06:45 AM
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TC, thanks for the news on Don Pearson. He will surely be missed by many. He left quite a legacy. I've been a big fan of his work for many years. His work with Ultrasound and what was obtained thru that equipment and design for Dead shows, Pink Floyd shows, and many others is truly unsurpassed in my book. I've never heard a large concert sound so fantastic. Jon, you beat me to it. I was looking for a photo of Jerry like that in front of the "Wall". I had a great talk with Dan Healy back in the late '80s about what the wall sounded like. I was only 8 years old when the Wall was alive, so I missed it. He said it was a truly amazing experience when each instrument had it's own cluster of Macintosh driven JBL's. But he did say that the modern Meyer systems just blew it away, and the good gear of today, properly run, is in his opinion a much better sound overall, especially when covering a large audience. But I could tell there was a real soft spot with him as he reminisced about the sound of the Wall. I think it was cool how after the Wall of Sound was retired, Jerry kept a miniature chunk of it for his guitar rig. I've always been a HUGE fan of Jerry's amp rig after the Wall. He used a cleaned up Fender Twin for a preamp which then drove a 600 watt Macintosh transistor power amp into a sealed back cabinet (or two) of JBL 12" speakers. He kept that rig until the end. Even when the Dead went direct in-ear with no speakers on stage, Jerry kept using that rig with the JGB. It was really the perfect steel guitar rig, although he just used it for 6-string guitar. Greatest "clean" guitar rig in history, IMHO. I spent many, many hours right in front of that rig, and I'm here to tell you, it was sweeeeeeeet! Brad[This message was edited by Brad Sarno on 20 January 2006 at 07:05 AM.] |
Barry Blackwood Member From: elk grove, CA
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posted 20 January 2006 08:13 AM
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Jon (Light), this is your Bose on drugs .... |
Chris Erbacher Member From: Sausalito, California, USA
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posted 20 January 2006 04:13 PM
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that wall of sound link says it all. way ahead of their time... |