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Topic: Tele players....what effects models do you use?
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Joe Alterio
Member From: Fishers, Indiana
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posted 30 January 2006 08:02 AM
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I am curious to hear what your preferred effects units are, including the brand (not for steel.....for your 6-string electric guitar). I am now using just a Boss DD3 Delay. I am thinking about adding a compression pedal to my setup, and have heard good things about the DOD Milkbox and Dunlop MXR Dyna Comp. (Have heard not-so-good things about the Boss CS3). I am also considering a distortion/overdrive unit and have heard good things about the Ibanez TS-9 TubeScreamer. I have used a Rat pedal, but didn't really seem to enjoy the sound.....Comments/thoughts? Joe |
Russ Tkac
Member From: Waterford, Michigan, USA
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posted 30 January 2006 08:09 AM
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The TS-9 is great. |
Tom Quinn
Member From: Sacramento
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posted 30 January 2006 08:23 AM
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I never leave home without an Alesis NanoVerb -- they are getting hard to find, but are absolutely killer pedals. I put a DynaComp before it in the signal chain,set the knobs 3/9, and a Boss TR-2 trem pedal after it if needed.Then there's the stringbender in the guitar, which is a BTS '54... -L- Tq |
Tony Prior
Member From: Charlotte NC
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posted 30 January 2006 08:54 AM
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The only effects Pedal I use now with the Tele' is the Boss BD-2 Blues Driver ( the blue one ) .
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Dave Mudgett
Member From: Central Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 30 January 2006 09:13 AM
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These days, I often use a Pod 2 into a solid-state Ampeg bass amp run totally flat. It has a lot of good amp models as well as effects, and sounds great. But I had to spend a lot of time tweaking on the computer to get a good A/B comparison to my old BF Fender amps. The presets are OK, but they are usually too distorted for my tastes. I usually need to deep edit out the extra distortion they add to most of the stock settings.When playing a tube amp like a Deluxe, Vibrolux, or Twin Reverb, I usually use the on-board spring reverb and an old Boss BE-5 multi-effects processor. It has, in this order: compressor, overdrive/distortion, digital delay, noise gate, and chorus. Boss made these only briefly in the early 90s, and is only multi-effects pedal I know of that they made with standard pots, instead of a digital readout. I use the compressor (with a small compression ratio), the delay, and the noise gate the most. I occasionally use the OD/Dist in pure overdrive mode to boost for a solo, but most times I use my volume knob or volume pedal. The OD gives a bit of midrange boost - when that is needed, I use it. Otherwise, it's strictly pure tube distortion for me. The chorus gives a good Boss chorus sound - if one likes that type of thing. To get something close to the Magnatone-style true vibrato sound, I have sometimes run an old flanger - I have an old Multivox that sounds great, but is big. Boss makes a pretty good sounding standard flanger unit. For Leslie-type sounds, I use an older rack-mount Voce Spin rotating speaker emulator. I understand they have a newer floor model. There are a bunch of newer units that a lot of people seem to like. For wah, I use a Fulltone Clyde. I've owned dozens of wahs over the decades - this is my favorite. Not cheap, though. Fulltone makes some excellent overdrive and distortion units also. I've tried an unbelievable assortment of pedals over the years, including echoplexes, real Leslie speakers, OD/Distortion units, wahs, flangers, choruses, compressors, and so on. Unless I need a special effect, I usually just use either the Pod setup or that Boss BE-5 with an old tube amp. |
Marlin Smoot
Member From: Atlanta,Georgia, USA
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posted 30 January 2006 10:15 AM
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Everyone will have a different take on this subject but as far as a compressor goes;
I have the Robert Keeley Compressor that I use for my Tele. I do duble duty in the band Tele/Steel. Do a google search, look on ebay and try Harmony Central for reviews. Nashville greats Dan Huff and Brent Mason have this compressor. it's a stomp box and cost $219.
I also have a old BOSS CS 2 (Japan) and it sounds like a toy next to the Keeley. I also have the Keeley BOSS BD2 (Blues Driver)and it sounds great. Keeley also does the TS-9 and RAT pedal along with others. Well worth your time checking out
the Keeley site. I use a Mesa Boogie combo Tube amp for the Tele and effect pedals work very well with this amp. I only use the Keeley Compressor and his BOSS BD 2 with a delay for 6 string. I try to find pedals that don't mess with the tone and the cheaper models may mess with your tone some. Good luck.
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Jack Francis
Member From: Mesa, Arizona, USA
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posted 30 January 2006 10:26 AM
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I have used a Memory Man analog delay for slapback since the early 80"s and have not found anything better...Alesis Microverb 4 for overall delay/reverb(with a touch of reverb from the amp)..Distortion-for years I used a Blues Driver but switched to a Marshall Guvnor...Dunlop Wha pedal..Works for me.Edited cuz I can't spell! [This message was edited by Jack Francis on 30 January 2006 at 10:28 AM.] [This message was edited by Jack Francis on 30 January 2006 at 10:29 AM.] |
Grant Johnson
Member From: Nashville TN
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posted 30 January 2006 10:44 AM
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Keeley Compressor. My favorite after owning several stompbox compressors.
Ibanez AD-9 Analog Delay.
Ibanez TS9 Tubscreamer modded by Keeley for more versatility.I am thinking of getting a Maxon Phase shifter for those Waylon covers! ------------------
www.bigsmokey.com |
John Macy
Member From: Denver, CO USA
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posted 30 January 2006 10:54 AM
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I always thought the Keeley was the holy grail (and it is one awesome compressor), but the Barber Tone Press is amazing. Similar compression, but it has a blend knob so you can add some of the original, uncompressed signal. Waaayy cool  ... |
Larry Robbins
Member From: Fort Edward, New York, USA
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posted 30 January 2006 12:06 PM
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I like the voodoo lab "super Fuzz and "Sparkel Drive for fuzz/ distortion.
www.voodoolab.com but as far as the DOD "Milk box" goes, run, dont walk, away!
Just MHO. Good Luck! |
Ben Slaughter
Member From: Madera, California
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posted 30 January 2006 01:17 PM
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Depending on the situation, I'll either play into my 65 TwinRI or through a PODxt into my NV112 (seriously). But, currently on my pedalboard, in order:Barber Tone Press (great compressor)
BOSS OD-3 (overdrive)
BOSS BD-2 (used as a boost with a little OD)
BOSS CE-3 (Chorus used sparingly for ballad type stuff)
BOSS DD-3 (slap back)
EB Volume Pedal Compressor and Delay stay on 99% of the time. I use the other three for "colors" |
John Billings
Member From: Northfield Center, Ohio, USA
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posted 30 January 2006 01:53 PM
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Tele, cord, Dr. Z Prescription Combo. |
Jim Peters
Member From: St. Louis, Missouri, USA
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posted 30 January 2006 02:40 PM
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NV tele, TS9, crybaby wah with hardwire bypass, into SF Deluxe. Then patch cord from input 2 into a Boss Be5(DaveM!!),compressor always on, one channel compressed, one not. Sometimes delay from the BE5, sometimes chorus, sometimes PEI Junior leslie. Killer tone! JP |
Michael Brebes
Member From: Northridge CA
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posted 30 January 2006 02:55 PM
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MXR Micro Amp
Boss noise gate
MXR Dynacomp
MXR Distortion +
Boss Blues Driver
Boss Tremolo
Boss CE3 Chorus
Line 6 Delay Modeler
Mutron Volume/Wah pedal |
Keith Cordell
Member From: Atlanta
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posted 30 January 2006 03:20 PM
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Boss TU2 Tuner
Keeley Compressor
Ibanez TS9 modded by Keeley
MIJ Boss T Wah
Ibanez DE7 Delay (cheap, and the most versatile stompbox delay I have ever used... and that's a LOT of delays)
Boss TR2 tremolo, modded by KeeleyAll the Boss effects can be improved drastically by Robert Keeley. what he does to the TS9 and TR2 is amazing. My next pedal will be his Ibanez AD9 with the 2 expression pedals. Check his site... http://www.robertkeeley.com/. It may seem like a bit much but if you A?B his work against the unmodded pedals you will see what I mean. |
Bill Terry
Member From: Bastrop, TX, USA
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posted 30 January 2006 03:45 PM
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Original Pod 2.0 set on the AC30 model with just a slight crunch plugged into an AC15. I use the Pod reverb. Funny thing is the AC15 has to be driven fairly hard for this to sound like I want it to, so I think a lot of what I like is the AC15, not the Pod. So it is AC30 + AC15 = AC45?[This message was edited by Bill Terry on 30 January 2006 at 03:46 PM.] |
Stephen Gambrell
Member From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA
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posted 30 January 2006 05:05 PM
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EITHER:
guitar--Visual Sound Route 66 comp/OD---DD-3---Ernie Ball volume
OR
guitar---Dyna-comp---BD-2---buncha other pedals, chorus, Phase 100...
These days, into either a DeLuxe Reverb, or a Vox AC-30.
Got a Pod xt, too---sometimes |
Tim Harr
Member From: East Peoria, Illinois
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posted 30 January 2006 06:06 PM
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EFFECTS:
MXR "dyna comp" Compressor OR BOSS CS Compressor
Boss RV 3
Blue Tube Overdrive
Boss TR-2 Tremelo
(sometimes) SG Black Box
Goodrich Vol pedalAMP: 65 Fender Twin Reverb w/ JBL AXE:
Fender Telecaster w/ B bender; Semour Duncan Nashville Studio Pickups ala Brent Mason It works for me... ------------------
Tim Harr
Carter D-10 8/9, PODxt Pro; Webb 6-14E Amplifier; 65 Fender Twin Reverb
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Jim Sliff
Member From: Hermosa Beach California, USA
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posted 31 January 2006 08:11 AM
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I really don't care for compressors on 6-string guitars, except for studio compression, which is a different animal. The stompboxes just squeeze the life out of your tone.My Tele setup generaly includes some or all of these, in rough order: Klon Centaur (for clean boost)
Lovetone Brown Source (secret weapon - I'd tell you what it does, but I'd have to kill you)
ZVex Super Duper (two-stage overdrive/boost)
Way Huge Green Rhino (overdrive)
ZVex Fuzz Factory
Way Huge Blue Hippo (chorus)
Korg G4 (Leslie)
H&K Replex (tape delay emulator)
Fender volume pedal I use all George L cables, and these amps depending on the venue (with the George L's and that particular effects combinationI experience almost no signal loss): '62 Princeton
'55 Deluxe
'72 Deluxe Reverb
Holland Little Jimi
'69 Pro Reverb
'64 Vibroverb Custom Other stuff I'll throw in from time to time are a Boss harmonizer (for faux-12 string), ZVex Seek Wah, ZVex Loop Junky, MXR Micro Amp, and a bunch of stuff I can't remember.... Oh, yeah - a Sireko tape echo, a Holy Grail Reverb, a CP835 compressor (for 12-string ONLY), several different EH LPB-1 drive units, EM-5 Echomachine, a Fender Blender clone... ...I know there's more.
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Stephen Gambrell
Member From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA
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posted 31 January 2006 05:33 PM
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Jim--
Got any velvet hammer pickups????? |
Keith Cordell
Member From: Atlanta
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posted 31 January 2006 07:55 PM
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Jim, I could pay off my car and put a downpayment on a house with what you have in gear just in the list. Yikes. |
Michael Haselman
Member From: St. Paul Park, Minnesota, USA
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posted 31 January 2006 08:41 PM
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Here's mine: Joe Barden pickups through anything!------------------
Marrs D-10, Webb 6-14E |
Geoff Brown
Member From: Nashvegas
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posted 02 February 2006 02:30 AM
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I wish I had a set of Bardens. Costs an arm and a leg to get a set now, when you can find them.I'm not a big pedal guy...just some basic, but good tools. I use an old Ibanez Delay Champ analog delay. I'm thinking about getting a Line6 DL-4...looks like that box would be a lot of fun to play with. Pricey, tho.
I have some old, non-reverb amps, and I use a Holy Grail reverb pedal to sweeten things up a bit. I have the basic model, but it does a great job for me. I've read that some are noisy, but mine has not been a problem.
I use an old black-box Marshall Bluesbreaker pedal (made in the UK). Not at all like the new ones. Not tons of gain, but plenty for me, and it will get you into the Billy Gibbons zone if you want it to. Great for adding some thickness and harmonics. Very warm-sounding. These pedals fly under the radar and can be had on eBay for not a lot of coin. I got mine for $60, IIRC. 9v battery lasts forever, too. I've tried $400 Landgraffs, Klons, modded TS-9s, Barbers and a bunch of other booteek OD/boost pedals, and this is my favorite. The Crowther Hotcake isn't a bad little pedal.
My favorite amp for a long time now has been my Dr. Z MAZ-38 Senior. 38w, class A. Really versatile amp, easy to use. I can't get a bad sound out of it. Best reverb I've ever heard.
It has it's own voice, but it reminds you of familiar sounds...BF Pro Reverb, AC30. I love the sweet midrange that EL84s deliver, but the bottom end that this amp has is really surprising to me. It can really kick! With the Bluesbreaker pedal hitting it just a little, it chunks as nice as any Plexi I've heard.
Not a whole lotta stuff, but I don't really need anything else. I use this setup with Teles, LPs and es-335s, pretty much.
I've been reading up on loopers lately, and I think I'd like to get one. I can't really see a live application for one (for me), but for recording it could open up some new possibilities. I think a looper could be highly addictive  [This message was edited by Geoff Brown on 02 February 2006 at 02:47 AM.] |
Ken Byng
Member From: Southampton, England
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posted 02 February 2006 04:51 AM
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I use a DBX compressor, Lexicon mutli effects and Korg tuner. All three are rack mounted units.Always play my Tele through a volume pedal. |
Jim Sliff
Member From: Hermosa Beach California, USA
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posted 02 February 2006 06:15 AM
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Keith - it's a sickneess ;-)Most acquired through smart trading over the years. Steve - still trying to dig up some Hammers for you. They are now rarer than hen's teeth. Stringpull Guitar Shop and I were going to make them, but everything fell through due to some family issues and other outside forces that precluded going into production. The last known set just went onto the last Nashville West guitar, recently sent to a buddy in Alaska. Some will appear sooner or later. So I keep hunting. |
Stephan Miller
Member From: Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
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posted 02 February 2006 07:39 PM
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Geoff-- could you compare the older Marshall BB pedal with the newer ones? Seems like both can be had on eBay for fairly cheap. Also, was it the Barber LTD you tried? |
David Mason
Member From: Cambridge, MD, USA
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posted 03 February 2006 03:46 AM
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I recently bought a Genesis 3 from a forumite for $86 and it has a wide range of mixable overdrive sounds, compression, delay, chorus etc. I've been through a lot of boxes and one current setup has one of two stereo channels with a MXR Dynacomp into a Tube Works "Real Tube" overdrive, but the multi-effect units like the Genesis, POD's and Rolands have the best bang for the buck for sure. Individual stompboxes may have certain tones unavailable elsewhere, but running more than three in a row can get pretty wierd and noisy. The drawback of the Genesis is that it won't let me vary the order of the effects, which I think the POD's and Roland rack units will. |
Bill Leff
Member From: Santa Cruz, CA, USA
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posted 03 February 2006 06:13 AM
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Zoom PD-01 (clean boost, poor man's Klon)
Barber Direct Drive (overdrive)
Line 6 DL-4 delay
Ernie Ball volume pedalOn the way: Hermida Zendrive |
Garry S.Pugh
Member From: Columbus, Indiana
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posted 03 February 2006 11:49 AM
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I've got a box full of gadgets that I've acclumated over the years, most of which I don't use unless I have special need for a particular recording. The best Tele players I have heard used minimal or no effects.The first time I saw Ray Flacke he was playing with on the Highways and Heartaches tour with Ricky Scaggs. Bruce Bouton was playing steel. He might have been using a delay pedal but he told me the secret is primarily a good guitar. In his case it was a real old Tele through a Lab Series amp. Roy Buchanan was another guy who, when I saw him, went straight from his guitar to the amp. Personally I love the sound of a Tele through a good compressor. I use an old MXR Dyna-Comp (script model). I own several Teles but my favorite is an American Deluxe Ash. I played about a dozen of them before I found this one, and it honks! I also use a Boss DD-3, and an Eric Clapton Crossroads Overdrive pedal through a '59 Bassman. Everybody has their own likes and dislikes I've tried most everything but I seem to drift back to the above set-up. I think the same thing applies to pedal steel. It's such a beautiful sounding instrument, why overprocess it? I use reverb and delay and that's about it. Sometimes I use an Ebow and/or my Boss Tone. That's about it, sometimes less really is more. |
Tim Harr
Member From: East Peoria, Illinois
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posted 03 February 2006 06:32 PM
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Garry,Tell Brad Manguss I said hello. I was in Indy last week and picked with his buddy Will Stockwell at a few places downtown. Lot's of fun. How's the Opry gig? Tim[This message was edited by Tim Harr on 03 February 2006 at 06:32 PM.] |
Michael McCorry
Member From: Plattsburgh New York, USA
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posted 03 February 2006 08:10 PM
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I use a Ibanez UE405-comp-chorus-para EQ and delay..all analog.
I add a Ibanex DM1100 digital delay and a Barber Direct Drive pedal, won guitar player magazine dist/OD pedal of the year..99.00. I run these in the "extra" loop available on the UE405.
The Ibanez is circa 80's-anywhere from 200.00 to 400.00 all analog effects, you would pay alot more to get these one at a time..
I have been playing for over 40 years and have had just about everything...thousands of $$ later and dozens and dozens of amps and all the rest, this is what I use for everything..tele, strat, LP standard , Ovation 2003 collectors, Epi SherationII, yairi DY40C...and whatever else i have hanging around..
Do not neglect the amp, I believe that the amp is more important than the guitar...give a guitar player a bad guitar and a great amp and it will sound good...give the same player a great guitar and a bad amp and it will sound bad, albiet not as bad as I could, but still bad..just the way it is.
I use a 60's epi comet, and a custom built 69 bandmaster reverb 2-10 combo.
I use a peavey TNT w/15" BW for my Sierra Crown steel and the acoustics,I know thats a bass amp, but hey-it sounds great-huge thing to haul around, sealed cabinet...around 80lbs or more!..mannn...its circa late 80's early 90's..9 band EQ..pre-post gain, notch, crossover chorus built in..(never use that)..
What I like about the UE405 setup is its easy to use..no manual needed..true stero if you want it..all analog, excet the DM1100 and the Barber. Sound like you hear in your head and can;t get..they are in this setup..sweet analog delay..thick , chimey analog chorus, and the barber is the best out there..its stupid easy to use. As a matter of fact the whole setup is stupid easy..if i handed it all to you now, you would have it up and running and sounding good right away...no learning curve. At my age i can;t waste valuable time trying to learn how to operate equiptment..real knobs to turn..wonderful stuff.
There are a few things to look for with the Ibanez stuff, if you think in that direction, I will pass it on to you..also, check Harmony Central reviews..
All I know is that after all these years of more electronic gear than NASA has in stock, I finally have a sound that sounds good all of the time,and in all kinds of situations.
I never have to change the core setup..I may add a roland GP8 just for the Roland jazz chorus sound..but its in and out in a snap..
This setup is easy to add-subtract to, because the core is static, the basic sound is always "good"..before I shut up, I have to mention that Rockabilly with this setup is a constitutional right!..try it with a tele or a Les Paul for a slightly different flavor..thats my 2cents worth.------------------
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Geoff Brown
Member From: Nashvegas
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posted 04 February 2006 07:03 AM
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Stephan, The BB2 has more gain than the BB1. The BB2 has a clean boost (the BB1 does not). It sounded ok. Both pedals are solidly built. The BB1 can be modded for more gain pretty easily. The BB1 doesn't have much happening until you get past 12 noon, but after that it does what it does very well, without coloring the guitar's tone. I think that pedal shines with Fender-voiced amps. It really adds that "Marshall" element to the sound.
The Barber I tried..I'm pretty sure it was a Direct Drive. More gain than I needed, and it definitely changed the guitar's tone, which I didn't care for. It was a friend's. I'll ask him.
In the world of pedals, the selection of OD/boost pedals is crazy. You can go from a $39 Carvin to a Landgraff or Fulltone and beyond. Every player thinks that their setup is the best...myself included, sometimes
Best to just try as many as you can until you find what works best for your ears. Avoid the mindset that $$ and hype must equate with "better". It's all subjective.[This message was edited by Geoff Brown on 04 February 2006 at 07:07 AM.] |
Stephan Miller
Member From: Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
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posted 04 February 2006 08:49 AM
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Geoff, thanks. What I'm looking for is something in the low-to-moderate gain, mildly overdriven area, which allows me to keep a lot of chordal clarity. I actually have the $39 Carvin pedal, it's not junk by any means, but most of its range is unuseable for me. The Boss Blues Driver is one I like, but still fuzzes out the chords too fast. It sounds like the Barber LTD (newer than the Direct Drive) or the the Marshall BB-1 might be what I'm looking for.--Steve |
Bob Martin
Member From: Madison Tn
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posted 09 February 2006 02:46 AM
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Since 90 I've used a realtube II preamp with my quadraverb and then in 91 the quadraverb gt into the poweramps of my 80's ampeg's ss-150's. I am completely tickled with that sound with a tele strat or paul. I recently purchased a new Boss GT-8 modeling effects board for the studio it seems like everyone is modeling amps, cabs and speakers now days so I wanted to see what all the hooplah was about and man am I glad I did. I love the new boss and will probably never mic my amps again in the studio unless a client asks for it. I'm from the old school and would have never thought I would use one of the new amp modelers but this particular unit blows me away. I realize now that many of the guitar sounds on the newer CD's and radio are probably modeled. Don't knock them until you try them. I might even take this out on a live gig and giv'er a whirl heck I might retire my 15 year old setup although I think I'll build a glass trophy case for it because of how many good tones I've gotten thru it. [big ol' grin] Big Bob |
Paul Honeycutt
Member From: Colorado, USA
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posted 11 February 2006 12:01 AM
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My favorite set up with a Telecaster is:
Guitar > cable > Rivera S120-210 amp with a Roland RE-150 Space Echo in the loop. Another favorite is Guitar > cable > Vox AC-15. I then run a cable from the second INPUT jack into the Space Echo and into a '67 Deluxe Reverb. Jangle and Twang! I have a pedalboard with a Barber Direct Drive, TS-5, Boss Digital Dimesion, Ibanez Volume pedal and a Boss DD-2 delay.
I don't use compression, but I want to pickup either a Barber Tone Press of Jangle Box to use with my Rick 12-string. The guitar is an '86 Fender '52 RI with a Barden neck pickup. I have a parts Esquire in progress with a SD Broadcaster pickup.
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