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Ken Fox
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From: Ray City, GA USA

posted 25 March 2006 04:43 PM     profile     
Amp came in with great reverb, just a lot of hum in it. A close inspection revealed the factory reverb cable was assembled incorrectly. The shield and signal wires were reversed causing signal to be carried on the shields.

The connector is a 5 pin Molex and should be as follows (note pin 1 is near the end of the connector with the wedge shape:

pin 1, white wire (to reverb tank input, longer of the two reverb cables

pin 2, shield/ground from the longer cable

pin 3, no connection

pin 4, white wire (to reverb tank output, shorter of the two reverb cables)

pin 5, shield/ground from the shorter cable


It should be noted that the reverb tank used has the input ground isolated from the body of the reverb tank. The output of the tank has the jacks shield connected to the tanks body. With the configuation I found the output signal was attached to the body of the tank. Just touching the tank caused in increase or different sound in the reverb return circuit!

I substituted a cable assembly from a second Nashville 400 I had to resolve the issue. Perfectly quiet reverb now!

I have ordered a Molex pin extractor tool to correct the pin arrangement on the old cable assembly.

Considering the number of complaints about reverb hum in teh Nashville 122 makes me wonder if a wring reversal could have occured on some of the Panduit connects they are using. Easy to do! I have alread seen a N-112 with theh Panduit cable plugged in backwards, resulting in reverb tank input to amp reverb input and reverb tank output to amp reverb output. Amp still had reverb, just a lot of hum.

Human error is easy when making up a Molex or Panduit style connector. I made up thousands of the Amp (red) and Panduit(white) style connectors when installing Raulnad Borg and Dukane school intercom systems (in my working days)! Made a few errors myself, easy to do.


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Jack Stoner
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From: Inverness, Florida

posted 26 March 2006 04:30 AM     profile     
Ken, my personal Nashville 400 had reverb hum from the day it was new (it was special ordered and I was at the music store when they opened the shipping box from Peavey).

I worked on it several times, it "blew up" during warranty and Peavey repaired it (took care of it without any questions - great service from Mike and the crew). I worked on it some more after it was repaired by Peavey and still had hum. I kept blaming the Molex connections (although I did have connection problems with the Molex connector).

In the end there was a hairline crack on the PC trace for one of the male Molex pins (one of the grounds) that was soldered to the PCB. Once I repaired that - no more hum!

My 112 has reverb hum and I've never got into it as I don't use the Peavey reverb. I use the "spring" reverb in my POD XT.

A side note on the Nashville 400 that I had. I got it around May of 96 and it had to be ordered as the Peavey dealer, in Kansas City, did not have one in stock. I had to wait until they did a production run of them at the factory and I wanted the factory mod installed (it was only being done by Peavey service at the time). The dealer let me talk to Mike Brown and Mike took care of having the mod installed by service before it was shipped to the dealer. Mike also commented that "I have been thinking about making that mod part of production". Since they started incorporating the mod into production about September I would assume the next production run of Nashville 400's after mine is when they incorporated it into production.

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