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Bill Yoder
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From: Orrville, Ohio, USA

posted 30 August 2006 07:04 PM     profile     
I hear the fender vibrolux reverb i growing in demand,what would a "72"silver face be worth?its probably a strong 9 out of 10.
Bill Hatcher
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From: Atlanta Ga. USA

posted 30 August 2006 08:35 PM     profile     
The old Pre CBS blackface amps are the valuable ones. Look on Ebay and do a search of the completed auctions to see what you amp might bring.

edit. I checked out Ebay. About $700.

[This message was edited by Bill Hatcher on 30 August 2006 at 08:37 PM.]

Henry Nagle
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From: Santa Rosa, California

posted 30 August 2006 11:10 PM     profile     
I bet you could get a little more than $700 if it's in real good shape. Those are great sounding amps!
Dave Mudgett
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From: Central Pennsylvania, USA

posted 30 August 2006 11:50 PM     profile     
Some of you may laugh, but I didn't see one at the last Philly guitar show in decent shape for less than $1200, and ones in real nice shape were more like $1400-1500. Blackfaces were more like $2500-3000.

The only one for sale on ebay right now is supposedly a 79 - it looks earlier, Vibrolux Reverb Amp in block letters - for a Buy It Now of $1100 plus $75 shipping. Maybe replaced speakers with later date codes led them to the 79 conclusion?

IMO, across comparable vintages, Vibroluxes are the most valuable of all the blackface and silverface amps, with the exception of the blackface Vibroverb - a fact corroborated by the Vintage Guitar Price Guide values. The silverface Vibrolux is, hands down, the most valuable silverface Fender, with the amps made between 68 and 72 being the most valuable. Even a couple of years ago, VG Price guide listed retail for the 68-72 version at $1100-1400 in excellent, original condition, and they've definitely gone up significantly since then.

Of course, condition and originality is everything. Any change, except for normal maintenance items like tubes and filter capacitors, can cut the value down significantly. IMO.

Of course, it's worth exactly what you can get someone to pay for it.

Doug Beaumier
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From: Northampton, MA

posted 31 August 2006 02:53 AM     profile     
I play a 1967 blackface Vibrolux Reverb every weekend, for guitar, not steel (for steel I use a Fender Steel King), and it's a Tremendous guitar amp! I used to own a silverface model (1969) and that was fine too, but it didn't have the same tone as the blackface. Oddly enough... the pedal steel guitar sounds awful through the Vibrolux Reverb. For guitar the amp is Spectacular... out of this world! But the pedal steel sounds shallow and "toneless" through this amp IMHO.

As far as value, these amps were selling for more two years ago. They seem to have come down a bit in the past year. Exactly 1 year ago I sold my other '67 blackface VibLxRvb on eBay for $1750... which was $500 less than the price listed in the price guide. It was 100% original and very clean, and over 1500 people had viewed the auction. About 16 months ago I sold my '69 silverface for $1100. It was clean, but had new speakers (Webers).

Bill, I would suggest keeping the amp, unless you absolutely need the money. These amps will increase in value in future years and they sound excellent.

Dave, how is the Philly vintage show? I heard it's the biggest one on the east coast. Also, speaking of BF VibroVerbs... I had a '64 and I sold it a few months ago. Another great amp... for some people. I tried to feel the magic, but it didn't work for me. Many times I A-B that amp and the VibroLuxR and I chose the latter every time! To each his own.

Bill Hatcher
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From: Atlanta Ga. USA

posted 31 August 2006 05:30 AM     profile     
Once again, do an Ebay completed auction search. You can look up all the price guides you want or the guitar show prices, but what they actually sell for on a consistant basis can be guaged at Ebay. Average price on an early 70s model is about $700. MUCH more for the blackface models.

As to why the smaller amps like the Delux Reverb and Vibrolux Reverb bring more, they are smaller and yet you don't have to run everybody out of the room getting a nice edge on the sound of them.

I have a blackface Vibrolux, a 64 Vibroverb, five Super Reverbs, Pro Reverb, Bassman, Bandmaster, Quad Reverb, Delux Reverb, and others. I love old Fender amps.

Jim Sliff
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From: Hermosa Beach California, USA

posted 31 August 2006 05:33 AM     profile     
If a Vibrolux Reverb is a "9" and all original $1200 is much more reaistic. $700 will get you a "beater", or one that's had critical parts replaced.

Tele players would buy a $700 VR in a heartbeat, sight unseen.

Edited to add:

I checked eBay closed auctions.

There are several non-serviced amps, ones with changed speakers, added casters, etc for $700-800. One at $600 on a "buy it now", which means the seller had no clue. A '79 with no apparent servicing for $800. A serviced '78 for $1200. A bunch at $600-700 that are the new PCB Custom Vibrolux Reverb, a new amp.


I'll stick with my number of $1200 for a "9".

[This message was edited by Jim Sliff on 31 August 2006 at 05:44 AM.]

Dave Mudgett
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From: Central Pennsylvania, USA

posted 31 August 2006 10:21 AM     profile     
Condition and originality are everything. Things like replaced speakers, grill cloth, tolex, holes, tears, mods, and other things can bring the value down significantly. There is also a significant difference between the 68-72 and later versions. Of course, there are no doubt regional differences, but here in the northeast, blackface and early silverface VRs are much coveted.

I am pretty confident that if somebody walks into a major guitar show with an excellent, original condition 68-72 Vibrolux Reverb for $700, the dealer shark line will pounce on them with hundred dollar bills and fight over it to get it for resale at a significantly higher price. I spent quite a few years in the vintage guitar business, and this is for real, IMO. Tell you what, Bill Y. - if you want to sell yours for $700 (or even a bit more, frankly), I'll be happy to buy it.

Doug, the Philly show is the best northeast show I know of, by far. I used to set up as a dealer there, and still do set up with a friend who is still in the bizness - it's mostly for fun these days. I'm with you on VLR vs VV - a good VLR is the best friend a Tele could ever have. I'll never part with mine.

Doug Beaumier
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From: Northampton, MA

posted 31 August 2006 01:26 PM     profile     
Dave, it seems like the prices at guitar shows are on the high end?
Dave Mudgett
Member

From: Central Pennsylvania, USA

posted 31 August 2006 01:46 PM     profile     
Doug - yes, sometimes dealers are phishing for a high price. But bargains can still be had at shows if you zig while everybody else is zagging, IMO. But if you're going for the gold standard stuff, the prices are silly. There was a guy 3-4 booths down from us who had tables and tables of $20,000-60,000 Fenders, and we won't even get into what the 50s Gibson stuff was going for. And he did not go home with all that stuff.

Honestly, though - I've seen some ebay stuff that makes me laugh, talk about phishing. But strangely, sometimes it works and people do sometimes overbid.

Let me also say that I see cash change hands for pretty stupid money on some of this stuff at shows. I've had my mouth hanging open more than a couple of times lately. I personally don't think this level of price inflation will continue, but I can't deny that the last two years have been a rollercoaster for the primo stuff. Suffice to say, I've been keeping my hands in my pockets for the last couple of years.

Jim Sliff
Member

From: Hermosa Beach California, USA

posted 31 August 2006 02:43 PM     profile     
Guitar shows have changed over the last 10 years or so. They USED to be places where you could find a good deal, a gem in there somewhere, or an odd item underpriced you could grab.

Now the dealers are there to 1) show off their collector-quality stuff, and 2) BUY instruments from walk-ins.

All the "deals" are gone on the initial "booth participant" night, when they trade amongst each other. By Saturday there is nothing but overpriced but pretty stuff on display, and sharks (working for the dealers) roaming around looking in every guitar case for deals.

I don't bother going anymore. It's a complete waste of money.

Bill Yoder
Member

From: Orrville, Ohio, USA

posted 31 August 2006 02:55 PM     profile     
Tell you what guys.after all this info on my vibroluxrvrb,i think i,ll keep it just as is.i was gonna load it up with a 12"JBL,but i gather that would be foolish.thanks all you guys for the info.
Bill


Doug Beaumier
Member

From: Northampton, MA

posted 31 August 2006 03:43 PM     profile     
Good move Bill, keep it, leave it as is, play it and enjoy it. It's money in the bank.

quote:
Now the dealers are there to 1) show off their collector-quality stuff, and 2) BUY instruments from walk-ins.

So true. Often a Dealer will put the show on, produce it and promote it as a swap meet... because he's wants to buy up the "bargains" that come in the door.

I think of these shows as "displays" of vintage gear, and places for wealthy buyers to find the rare guitars they are looking for.

[This message was edited by Doug Beaumier on 31 August 2006 at 03:44 PM.]

David Doggett
Member

From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

posted 03 September 2006 09:00 PM     profile     
A silver-face Vibrolux Reverb can be a fantastic moderate volume steel amp, if you run it into a 12" or 15" speaker. It can sound just like a Twin, but lower volume. But considering the prices these go for these days, don't screw up the original cabinet. If you want to use a larger speaker, get a custom cabinet built for the chassis and larger speaker. Keep the original cab and 10s so you can put it back to stock for resale.

As for the Philly show, go early if there is something specific you just have to have, and are willing to pay high for it. But for bargains, toward the end of the last day, the prices get very negotiable, except for the pristine sought-after stuff.

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