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Topic: Holy Grail vs. RV-3
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Mitch Druckman
Member From: Arizona, USA
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posted 20 September 2006 05:13 PM
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Are there players out there who have used both the EH Holy Grail and Boss RV-3? What are the differences in the reverb sounds?I played a Holy Grail and was not that impressed. It was ok and did the job, but was not lush like the Lexicon LXP-1. I'd like to find a great sounding reverb in a stompbox. |
Chris LeDrew
Member From: Newfoundland, Canada
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posted 20 September 2006 05:56 PM
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Mitch,I've owned both. The RV-3 wasn't for me, although a lot of guys swear by them. I couldn't get the right balance between 'verb and delay, and I found the decay in the 'verb artificial-sounding. The Holy Grail, although basically a one-trick pony, gave out a nice authentic spring and hall reverb. There wasn't a lot of decay control, but it worked a lot better for me reverb-wise than the RV-3. If you like the old-style reverb, the Holy Grail is a good choice. I've since sold both, and presently get everything I need out of the DD-3. |
Jerry Erickson
Member From: Atlanta,IL 61723
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posted 20 September 2006 10:11 PM
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You might try out a Digitech X series reverb pedal. I prefer it to the Boss RV-3. It's also current production, making it readily available and cheaper than the RV-3. |
Dave Seddon
Member From: Leicester, England.
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posted 20 September 2006 10:33 PM
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Try a Marshall Reflector pedal they are great and cheap with plenty of different reverbs, and die cast case.
Dave. |
Dan Tyack
Member From: Seattle, WA USA
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posted 21 September 2006 10:08 AM
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The new line6 reverb pedal has some great lush reverb sounds that are on a par with the Lexicon.------------------
www.tyack.com |
Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 21 September 2006 11:49 AM
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I like the RV-3 when playing lap steel. It's really a 2-in-1 pedal with both reverb and delay. It floats my boat ok.  |
Mitch Druckman
Member From: Arizona, USA
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posted 21 September 2006 04:28 PM
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Thanks to all for the input. I've been noticing on the Forum there are basically 2 camps. One using the Holy Grail and the other with the RV-3. It's good to get some new suggestions. |
Bob Carlucci
Member From: Candor, New York, USA
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posted 21 September 2006 04:45 PM
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Mitch.. it all depends on what you want.. If you want a classic Fender tube amp reverb, NOTHING is as good as the Holy Grail.. its easily the best stomp box size reverb I have ever heard.. Its so close to the old Fender amps tht its creepy Having said that, the bigger and more expensive units will certainly do more,and are more flexible as far as recording, stereo effects,multiplexing, etc, but if you want a straight ahead and simple reverb unit that just plain sounds GOOD, the HG is the best bang for the buck by far... bob |
Ken Williams
Member From: Arkansas
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posted 21 September 2006 05:14 PM
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Dan, I tried to look that Line 6 up at Musicians friend. Is that the Verbzilla? If so, the price is right. If not, what is the name of the Line 6 unit?Thanks,
Ken |
Paul Arntson
Member From: Bothell ,WA (just outside Seattle)
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posted 21 September 2006 08:32 PM
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I tried the boss units, and then went with the Holy Grail. I run it into an old fender amp with no reverb in it, and it does its one thing just fine. Definitely a one trick pony. The other weird settings are just that ... weird. If you listen real hard, you can hear a little artificiality, but it is the best sounding one to me. The boss units had too much initial sproingggg or maybe ploinkk for me at the attack of the note. Their tone was fine,however, so if that ploink is not an issue they would probably work for you too.-paul |
CHIP FOSSA
Member From: Monson, MA 01057 U.S.A.
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posted 22 September 2006 12:07 AM
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Mitch, As Bob C. stated [and all of us HG nuts have espoused here on the SGF] the BEST digital reverb that comes as close to a Fender Twin Reverb is the Electro-Harmonix Holy Grail. Hands down. Unless you're from the X-files, the HG is the premier digital tube-like reverb. Many here on the Forum swear by it. You say you find it mediocre. Don't know how to convince you otherwise, except play with it more. I also own a Boss RV-3, too. My opinion of the RV-3 is that it's reverb [and this is only what I'm after] is HARSH, EDGY, and BLARING. When compared to the HG, well...in my head, there is no comparison. The HG is smooth as silk. Here we go again - personal taste, I guess. But the HG IS definitely a great, inexpensive ,digital reverb. Either you like it, or you don't. |
Andy Zynda
Member From: Wisconsin
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posted 22 September 2006 06:07 AM
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The RV3 reverb is grainy and metallic.
It's Echo is fine.The Holy Grail is properly named.
Fender tube reverb in a stomp box. -andy-
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Mitch Druckman
Member From: Arizona, USA
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posted 24 September 2006 12:00 AM
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I think the Line 6 Verbzilla looks like it has real possibilities. Multiple reverb programs with a mix control and tone control. I think I'll give it a try. I should be able to find at least one or two great sounding reverbs out of this box. If not... let the search continue. |
Greg Cutshaw
Member From: Corry, PA, USA
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posted 24 September 2006 09:58 AM
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Mitch, I just ordered the LIne 6 docking bay and the Verbzilla tone module to compare with my RV-5. Let me know how yours works out. I am planning to leave the RV-5 connected to one instrument setup and the Line 6 to another. Greg |
Dan Tyack
Member From: Seattle, WA USA
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posted 25 September 2006 12:38 PM
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It's the Verbilla. Excellent, much 'bigger' sounding than the Holy Grail, although it can also do the spring thing very well.------------------
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Greg Cutshaw
Member From: Corry, PA, USA
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posted 25 September 2006 01:02 PM
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A lot of interesting reviews on Harmony Central comparing the Boss RV's with HG and Verbzilla from people who have owned both or all three units. I think my RV-5 sounds great but not as good as a Fender tube spring reverb. If the Verbzilla is close to the HG and is quieter, I will get another one and ebay the RV-5.Greg [This message was edited by Greg Cutshaw on 25 September 2006 at 01:03 PM.]
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Richard Cooper
Member From: Eads,TN,USA
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posted 25 September 2006 02:02 PM
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I have used both, and like the HG best. |
Cartwright Thompson
Member From: Portland, Maine, USA
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posted 25 September 2006 04:32 PM
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The RV-2 was a great unit, much better sounding than the RV's 3 + 5, you can still find them pretty cheap on eBay. I think that nothing beats a real tube reverb unit, or at least a built-in blackface style reverb. The Holy Grail sounded pretty mediocre to me. |
Nathan Golub
Member From: Durham, NC
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posted 26 September 2006 03:48 PM
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I've been using the HG for about six months now. It sounds great, but depending on the power source it can give off a lot of hiss. I'm looking to get a Verbzilla in the next few weeks. The reverb on the HG might be the closest to the real thing, but it's not worth the extra noise. |
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