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Keith DeLong
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From: Dartmouth NS Canada

posted 30 April 2002 01:50 PM     profile     
I have always dreamed of going to St. Louis to the convention, but after the remarks about the smoke, I'll pass, thanks. I wouldn't be able to bring my wife, who is asthmatic, and although I still play in bars, we're hoping that a "no smoking " law goes through here. They have just put a law that bans smoking in recreation halls and public buildings, but they wimped out when it came to bars. Good ventilation helps but it doesn't eliminate the problem.
Cal Sharp
Member

From: Gnashville

posted 30 April 2002 02:42 PM     profile     
WC - good point! Cigarette smoke really is a part of the honky tonk mystique. But then honky tonks ain't what they used to be, are they? I sure miss 'em, smoke and all.
Gene - yeah, man, if someone thinks bars get smoky, what would they do on a 36-hour bus ride to the next gig when everyone else in the band smokes?

C#

Cal Sharp
Member

From: Gnashville

posted 30 April 2002 03:20 PM     profile     
WC - Glad you have a teenager's lungs. Wish I had a teenager's... well, never mind. I had a chest X-ray recently, too, and 35 years of smoky bars hasn't hurt me, either.

C#

Michael Garnett
Member

From: Fort Worth, TX

posted 01 May 2002 05:05 AM     profile     
I don't think I've smoked 5 cigarettes in my (albeit short) life. Having worked in a bar (and "Grille") for quite some time now, I'm definitely used to cigarette smoke, and whenever it starts "getting" to me, I either step outside for a few breaths of fresh air, or run back into the kitchen where I can be accosted by the fumes of burning cows. It's a lot better for me, but I think it's raising my cholesterol levels.

If any of my friends smoke around me, I just sit where the smoke doesn't blow on me. If it's a stagnant smoky dive, why not ask if there's a door near the stage that one could put a fan in to supply some fresh air? Powerful enough fans for that are pretty easy to come by.

Another thing I was thinking about was when I saw the Bellamy Brothers last time they played in town, they had some sort of little black thingymajob, about the size of a pager, that they had hanging around their necks. I asked them if it was a microphone of some sorts, but they told me it was something that cleaned the air, making it easier for them to breathe. Does anybody know what those things are?


Now that I've re-read this post, I'm remembering when I financed my truck. Dad was with me, and the finance guy asked me if I wanted a Credit Life policy on the loan. After I asked what it was, I looked right at the guy and said very seriously, "No, Sir. I'm 19 years old, I'm never going to die."

As the "whippersnapper," I say, I'm going to die of something sooner later. Whenever the Big Man Upstairs calls me, I'm gonna come runnin'.


Garnett

Bill Hankey
Member

From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

posted 01 May 2002 05:16 AM     profile     

When your lungs and eyes start to burn, and the irritation makes you wonder if you will be able to last the night as a band member, common sense dictates that the body's natural instincts are trying to warn of the dangers. Heavy smoker's lungs have been viewed from the inside. It's not a pretty sight. The walls of a smoke room are coated with a dark yellow goo that no reasonable person would want to place into the lungs. There is a widespread lack of concern by manufacturers and distributors to protect our youthful citizens, from this deadly trap. The harm extends far beyond the individual smoker. It jeopardizes little children, starts forest fires, burns homes, scorches furniture, and other finishes, damages automotive upholstery, gives a nonsmoker multiple insights on the bad manners of the majority who toss the butts near walkways, parking lots, and along our highways. The total damages caused by the curse has to be in the billions of dollars. The price per pack has zoomed from approx. $.25 in the 50's to nearly $ 4.00 at the present time. I truly believe if the price went to $ 20.00 per pack, the sales would not be interrupted. There is a message here, that is nothing short of disturbing.

Bill H.

Cal Sharp
Member

From: Gnashville

posted 01 May 2002 09:46 AM     profile     
Wednesday, May 1, 2002
• Special Reports • My Local News
Half of Americans Breathing Bad Air

Wednesday, May 1, 2002    Talk about it

NEW YORK (CNN) -- About half of all Americans live in areas where levels of smog are unhealthy, the American Lung Association said in a report released Wednesday.
According to the report, the smoggiest metropolitan areas are:
1. Los Angeles, California

And you guys are worried about a little smoke in bars?

C#

Kenny Dail
Member

From: Kinston, N.C. 28504

posted 01 May 2002 09:48 AM     profile     
When you are on oxygen 24/7 and you wonder just how much longer you will be around to enjoy even listening to music...it will be too late to step outside and get a breath of fresh air. cough cough...yuk yuk...

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kd...and the beat goes on...

Don LaCourse
Member

From: Spring Hill, FL, USA

posted 01 May 2002 11:08 AM     profile     
what Kenny Is saying is very true, i dont post much any more, i just read and grin, althogh its not at all funny.im 68 now.20 years ago i was like a lot of you guys.10 feet tall and bullet proof.a week end warrior. i lived for the weekends where i picked three nites a week.worked at ford motor up north seven days a week. nothing bothered me,yes i smoked and i loved it. nobody made me do it.my life was smoking, drinking Jack daniels and a different women every week end.great life huh, well four divorces later i married a women 20 years younger than me. it was great. then one day. i found out i had COPD. like kenny. the doc. told me to quit smoking ,i didnt till it was too late. then two years ago i had a heart attack. now after five angio plastys and six steel stents in my artorys. i dont know why but im still here.if i had it to do over i would probably do it the same.anyway i guess like clint eastwood says ,a man has to know his limitations, take care Kenny my friend...
Michael Garnett
Member

From: Fort Worth, TX

posted 02 May 2002 02:43 AM     profile     
Don, you need to double that "years ago" category, and add a few more on to it. I'm a respectful, but irreverant 22, and FAR from being 10 feet tall and bulletproof. (somebody oughtta right a song about that). Hell, I'm positive secondhand smoke is bad for me. But I don't smoke. And I won't sit around in some place that I can't see 5 feet in front of my face because of the smoke hanging there. Does that mean I'm going to be 80 years old and on Oxygen, just from secondhand smoke? Man, I'd hope not. Otherwise, I'd hope I got run over by a busload of Baywatch Babes and have all of them give me mouth to mouth before I died from the pleasure of pushing the button that nuked Hussein and fixed my generation's attitude problem.

Oh neato, that was fun.

Garnett

Steve Stallings
Member

From: Bremond, Tx, pop 876, Home of the fighting Bremond Tigers

posted 02 May 2002 05:36 PM     profile     
I invite all of you who are "pro smoke" to my clinic. Take your pick.... any day of the week. I see four or five folks every single day who have destroyed their bodies with smoking. COPD, CAD, Peripheral Vascular Occlusive Disease... take your pick.

Smoking cigarettes is possibly the most ignorant thing a person can do to them selves. It is a filthy, vile, addiction.
The patients I see smoking are primarily of lower socioeconomic strata, and generally not the brightest star in the sky.

Second hand smoke like found at the TSGA is beyond regrettable...it is a few folks who could care less about your lungs, ignorantly puffing away.... killing themselves as well as us. People who belittle the effects of second hand smoke are ignoring every single scientific study on the subject.

I smoked for years. Quitting was hard, but it was the only sane course. I have not had a cigarette in 8 years. We do not play bars.
The seven band members are all smoke free. We stay plenty busy and avoid bars like the plague.

Someone suggested that smokers have rights...... Nothing personal, but that;s like saying "It's ok for you to willingly pour that poison down my throat and into my lungs". Smokers have the right to wise up.
Smokers have the right to kill themselves slowly and in the process drive up the cost of medical care for everyone. Smokers have the right to go outside....

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Steve Stallings
Bremond, Texas


Steve Miller
Member

From: Long Beach, CA, USA

posted 02 May 2002 11:01 PM     profile     
Steve, no need to be insulting. I'm quite sure that there are very few people now living that didn't know (or at least have a very good idea) when they started that smoking was bad for them. Half the folks in the country are overweight which is also bad for us and drives up medical costs. If we outlawed everything that was bad for us or offended someone then it wouldn't much fun now would it?
Steve Stallings
Member

From: Bremond, Tx, pop 876, Home of the fighting Bremond Tigers

posted 03 May 2002 05:27 AM     profile     
Steve....There is nothing insulting in my post. It is factual, with widely held views.
I see this every day. If you are referring to my observation that smokers tend to be poorer and less educated, this is factual and backed up by multiple studies.

I buy zero excuses for smoking. There is no reason to smoke and every reason to quit. THere are numerous resources available for smokers who wish to quit. Any reasonably intelligent human being can quit if they tuly want to.

Obesity is almost certainly related to genetics and insulin resistance as well as our countries fast food habit. Yes, I agree that obesity is also a problem. However, this thread has nothing to do with obesity. SOmeone who is morbildy obese is not going to "give me" their obesity, and they most certainly pose no health risk to me.

Second hand smoke is a major health risk in our country. Many, many local communities are passing legislation to address this. As pointed out previously in the thread, studies prove that banning smoking has little to no effect on the cash register.

People who take an opposing viewpoint have no valid argument and come off as less than well informed.

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Steve Stallings
Bremond, Texas


Rex Thomas
Member

From: Thompson's Station, TN

posted 03 May 2002 07:31 AM     profile     
At first, I decided to stay out of this, but now I'm jumping back in. The problem here is that we're not sticking to the topic; "Cigarette smoke..cough...yuk!". And I believe Len's original question is what to do about it. Now Steve S. & I might not agree on steels (I play a Derby now, Steve. How's that for a gear change?) but I not only agree with him 200%, but smokers getting on this thread defending their habit has NOTHING to do with the subject matter. I really hope that all states will follow CA's lead & get the no smoking laws in place, the sooner the better. In line with what Steve S. is saying, smokers also have the right to post their OWN THREAD, for crying out loud.

[This message was edited by Rex Thomas on 03 May 2002 at 11:49 AM.]


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