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Bill Simmons Member From: Keller, Texas, USA |
![]() Something does not add up here if that's all that is needed to nominate Reece...isn't Bobby Caldwell a guitar player (and a great one at that)? Interesting that a guitar player would be on the steel guitar board. Maybe it's politics? I agree with you David Wright! |
Richard Gonzales Member From: FITCHBURG,MA USA |
![]() I could not agree with you more David! The SGHOF has tarnished their esteem by passing over some very deserving individuals THAT HAVE been nominated MANY TIMES !! They have not been accepted due to the members own personal likes and dislikes. The steel guitar community never had a say in their selections and never will! You may call it what you want, but to me it is a closed private club!! Until they get full support from the steel guitar community it will only be plaques on a wall and NO MORE!! |
Myron Labelle unregistered |
![]() If it is not a closed club,and a non profit organization then why does everyone rush to St. Louis ,put up with Hotel overbook Bull$hit,spend boucoup $$$. ![]() ------------------ |
J D Sauser Member From: Traveling, currently in Switzerland, soon to be either back in the States or on the Eastern part of Hispaniola Island |
![]() I think we´ve had this many times here, and sadly most times it started nicely and turned "grunchy" just like this thread. Yes, things have changed since the new MSA Co. elected to go long ways to resolve some issues that may have been left pending since the closing of the old MSA Co. and also some personal issues, namely with one SGHOF board member seem to have been resolved and hopefuly put to rest. So, there is new hope and this is good news. ![]() I think that the SGHOF has it's rules and that if we want to move anything for our friend, mentor or steel guitar hero (all of which Maurice is to me and understandably to many here and around the world), we will have to put in just a little more work than just posting our "nominations" and "count me in´s" or beating the institution we would like to see our "nominate" inducted into so badly and rather use that window of opportunity offered by the SGHOF and properly submit our nominations to the SGHOF board. Regarding Mr. Winston´s "get real" post I feel that I have to reply that we can't possibly know if Maurice has or has not been elected for next year´s induction(s), as we are told that these elections are held in secret one year ahead during the ISG-Convention board meeting, so hope is as real as it gets, for us at least. ... J-D. [This message was edited by J D Sauser on 31 July 2003 at 09:09 AM.] |
John Floyd Member From: Somewhere between Camden County , NC and Saluda S.C. |
![]() David, Thanks. ![]() Mr Winston Made it clear that, Reece hasn't been selected for this year. Isn't he supposed to wait for the official announcement? I guess Integretity is something the Board takes with a grain of salt, just like they do when they appoint board members. The Steel Guitar community doesn't need this kind of Good ole boys club to represent them. Maybe its time for a change. ------------------ |
David Wright Member From: Modesto .Ca USA. |
![]() Those who think the battle is about Maurice are WRONG. Its about what’s right, what’s just, and in memory of so many great players who have been passed over because of jealousy and personal agendas and vendettas of board members who have tunnel vision, and who are elected for life. When you think about it very clearly, its apparent those that go into the HOF are there ONLY because of those members of the board and the steel guitar community has absolutely no say so about it. It’s a closed- door organization with no checks or balances to be sure it is run in a moral and just manner. So in reality it’s the HOF, which only those board members created and wish to see. No one knows who has been nominated. No one knows how many. nominations have been submitted and etc
Sierra S-12 9&7 [This message was edited by David Wright on 31 July 2003 at 09:05 AM.] |
Roger Andrusky Member From: Waterford, PA, USA |
![]() I know I'm a "nobody" in the world of steel guitar fame, but maybe THAT's the biggest reason he should be there! Because he's helped so many "regular" guys/gals like me so much with so much kindness and willingness to serve. Never pretentious, pompous, assuming or looking for praise. His whole purpose is to help as many people as he can wherever and whenever its needed. I know you like to be called "Reece", but to you with all due respect, Mr. Maurice Anderson, I, along with with all of your friends here on the Forum and in the world, KNOW you deserve the honor! Here's my vote! - Roger |
Bobby Lee Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA |
![]() John Floyd wrote quote:That's not what I read. He said that Reece has not been nominated this year. The voting takes place during the convention. If he hasn't been nominated, there's no chance that he will be selected because his name isn't among those being considered. Who here has nominated Reece, and when? I know, it may seem silly to resubmit your nomination once a year, but apparently that's what it takes to get the name before the board. ------------------ |
Jim Smith Member From: Plano, TX, USA |
![]() quote:Wouldn't the voting have to be done quite some time before the convention? ![]() In the past, new HOF electees' names have been posted on this Forum well before the convention. The electees for this year were posted here a couple weeks ago as well. |
Bobby Lee Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA |
![]() The voting for next year will take place at this year's convention. I would prefer that people not "leak" the name of the inductee(s) on the Forum before the convention. If the Board wants to use the Forum to make an announcement, that's fine, but I feel that it's not proper for other people to post rumours or speculation before the official announcement. |
Jody Carver Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever |
![]() Hi Guys I really didnt intend to comment on this,but from time to time I have looked in at the posts that were posted and feel I should have something to say that I truly feel is in order here. Sure this is a community of fellowship,we are Maurice is a fine gentleman and Scotty is a fine gentlemen and both a credit to the instrument we all love. To take issue with the SGHOF is an open discussion and those of you have vented you're feelings in favor of Maurice is fine If we look at both sides of the coin we have to think that for whatever reason that exists I find it difficult to think Maurice was ignored. I beleive the circumstances that surrounded MSA in the past may be only a ghost of the reason,and perhaps there are many other reasons and that we are not aware If Maurice feels he has been wronged regarding those who supposedly ignored him,then Maurice should stand up and speak out. I have yet to hear anything from Maurice I think Maurice is a fine man and I feel that Scotty is without a doubt the most level But to see the comments made here that were obviously made in a moment of anger hurts all If I were in this situation and hope that I never will be and doubt I ever will rise to I would also be embarrassed no end to feel that all of you people although meaning well have put the pressure on the others you feel have dishonored Maurice. I myself if I put myself in Maurice's position would feel that it was pressure and not by choice if and when if ever he is indeed nominated and more than likley has been a few times. Its difficult for me to beleive that a group Has it ever come across your mind that Maurice himself may have lost all interest after all that has transpired over the past years possibly has not wanted to be inducted? I know for my own feelings that it were myself in Maurice's shoes I would not want to be inducted if in fact they dont feel I was capable for whatever reason and I would feel that If I were,it was through force and pressure that made my induction a reality. This is a sad time for all concerned even those of you who have posted the things I have read here,but I hold nothing against any of you whether you support Maurice or not Again,if it were me I would have asked to be If those of you who can reach Maurice fine, do so, and if those of you who feel this should be continued fine, do so,but do it by telephone or e mail and not for the world to For all we know Maurice himself may have asked "out" a long time ago feeling that Its I'm not an intellect by any means,but I have Let those invloved, being Maurice and the SGHOF members thrash this out and not be an issue that hurts people as many have been hurt as a result of this thread which more than likely was started with good intentions There is an old saying that I learned many years ago as a young salesman. You may win the Argument,but you may lose the sale as a result. Let those who are directly invloved resolve I think much of both parties and hate to see Maurice himself in his heart knows how he feels,let Maurice continue this with those invloved. Thank You and please dont mis-understand me I hope you understand my feelings. [This message was edited by Jody Carver on 05 August 2003 at 08:11 PM.] |
Fred Shannon Member From: Rocking "S" Ranch, Comancheria, Texas |
![]() b0b, I don't want to use up the hard drive, but I think it pertinent, since it was brought up by others to make the following nomination letter available. A similiar letter was dispatched to the SGHOF last year. Neither letter however, initiated a response from anyone there. Letter Follows: June 30, 2003 To: The Steel Guitar Convention Board Subject: Formal nomination of Maurice "Reece" Anderson to the Steel Guitar Hall Of Fame. (SGHOF). 1. Name and list the notable artists and bands with whom the nominee has performed and recorded, as well as the duration. Maurice Anderson has performed and/or toured with all of following artists: 2. Describe any touring history of the nominee, the length of that touring, and the names of touring bands or artists that he/she has performed with. If the nominee was primarily a club musician, list the names and locations of those clubs and the years spent in club performing. Maurice Anderson was both a touring and club musician over the previous 50 years as a performing steel guitar player and band leader. He has toured with Willie Nelson, Tex Ritter in the late 1950's, Ray Price, Bob Wills 1963-65, Johnny Gimble on countless dates around the four state area of Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Arkansas, several tours to Europe with his own band, many tours with the Legends of Western Swing band, and many others. Maurice was a long time fixture at the now defunct, but famous never the less Longhorn Ballroom in Dallas Texas. Many other clubs, both public and private have been privileged to have Maurice as "The Steel Player" in their bands. Maurice Anderson was a forerunner in introducing the Pedal Steel Guitar into the Jazz arena of American music. He has been the initiator and innovator of the Universal Tuning on this instrument. He both teaches and has improved this tuning to near perfection. Maurice Anderson is known world wide for his prowess on the Pedal Steel Guitar. He continues to promote the instrument to the younger generation at every opportunity. He is the Music Coordinator for the Johnny High Country Music Revue which is performed two nights each week, primarily for the public entertainment, but more importantly providing for the introduction of new talent into the music business, both as players and vocalists. It is one of three such shows in the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex. Maurice has provided guidance and effort in making the other two very successful also. This younger generation looks up to Maurice as a role model for both his musical and human activity characteristics. There is no generation gap between him and the younger folk. Maurice has recorded with hundreds of artists, some of whom are mentioned above. He has nine albums of his own which include Jazz, Gospel, Country and Pop. He has recorded utilizing both the pedal steel guitar and has one album using a Boen made lap steel. His versatility on both instruments is unchallenged. Maurice Anderson is recognized as a superb instructor of music fundamentals along with both the lap steel and pedal steel guitars. His teaching ability is recognized world wide. He has students from all over the globe who come to his home in Keller, Texas to study with him. He is, by far, one of the most knowledgeable steel guitar players in the world. His instructional methods are heralded by hundreds. He continues to produce his teaching materials, certainly at a reasonable price, to all who wish them. He has developed new and innovative teaching methods and materials, that rival any and surpass most in the industry. His methods and teaching capability is not limited to beginners, or daily players; many professionals utilize his services frequently. His accessibility to everyone is a marvel. I have never heard one individual who spoke to him via telephone or in person say one derogatory thing about his not being candid, open, and willing to help anyone. He has conducted music seminars all over the world, promoting the steel guitar at each and every meeting. In 1963, Maurice Anderson, in the company of two other individuals started the MSA Steel Guitar manufacturing business. One of the individuals, now a member of the SGHOF, decided to make another path for himself and the other gentleman passed onto a better place. Maurice remained as the President of the company from it's inception until it's demise in 1983. For almost 20 years MSA was the major manufacturer of the Pedal Steel Guitar in the world, making more instruments than nearly all the other makers combined. At one time the peak output was 2626 guitars per annum. That's over 218 guitars per month. The MSA staff, headed by Maurice, developed a computer controlled machine shop that enabled them to meet this contracted number. The MSA factory in East Dallas was the prime innovator of such machinery. This fact alone allowed the MSA guitars to be built with a quality assurance surpassed by none. Thousands of these guitars are still being played by professionals and amateurs alike. Proof is in the pudding, they did a good job, but Maurice Anderson was the mainstay in the organization. Maurice Anderson never released the MSA Name and the company is now back in business, making an instrument that is the cutting edge of the carbon fiber technology. The new MSA Millennium sales are increasing daily and the guitar is very functional, overcoming several of the disadvantages of a floor played instrument. The new guitar is very light, flexible and is being played all over the world. Maurice was instrumental in the engineering design, logistics procurement, and manufacture of this new instrument. Maurice Anderson is a stalwart in the Pedal Steel Guitar world. Some of his efforts leading to all of the items in article 7 follow: As is readily apparent to the most casual observer and even to the unknowledgeable in our field, this letter should be indicative of this man's accomplishments and capability. They are well documented, and verifiable. Maurice Anderson is a highly qualified candidate to be a part of the SGHOF and would bring nothing but credit to the organization. I urge your selection of this man to this prestigious position in our music field. Respectfully,
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David L. Donald Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand |
![]() I have never tried to "bash" the board members, though I will admit to being overly ironic in another thread, after reading a most likely incomplete but very large list of Reece's acomplishments. 2 points 2. The Baseball HOF inducts multiple applicants. Why not the STGHOF also? [This message was edited by David L. Donald on 01 August 2003 at 02:13 AM.] |
Reece Anderson Member From: Keller Texas USA |
![]() Jody C....Your well meaning, kind and considerate comments are appreciated and most certainly warrant a response. Should you care to extend me the courtesy of contacting me at my personal email address shown on the MSA website, I will be glad to immediately and respectfully respond. |
Mike Perlowin Member From: Los Angeles CA |
![]() Reece's induction is indeed long overdue. Now that the controversy surroundiong the demise of the first MSA company is being resolved, perhaps he will finally get the honor he deserves.
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Jody Carver Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever |
![]() Will someone post the MSA website. Thank You. |
Jim Vogan Member From: Ohio City, Ohio 45874 |
![]() http://www.msapedalsteels.com/ ------------------ |
bob drawbaugh Member From: scottsboro, al. usa |
![]() It is no secret that at least two members of the board has an ax to grind with Reece. At the start of the MSA resolution emails were sent by these to me and for what reason I don't know. Since I have no input on the resolution nor do I have any personal relationship with Reece. So until these are replaced on the board I have no faith in the board or the process. I can't vote for the Inductee but I can vote not to support the ISGHF or The ISGC. That's my vote, and just like the board can change in the future so can my vote.;( |
Myron Labelle unregistered |
![]() A question has been asked."Why hasn't Reece responded"? Well in some sense,Why??? I don't believe Reece is fighting anyone or that he should be to gain entrance.His recorded and documented history and what he has meant to the Steel Guitar stands out way above a good percentage of some who hang on the "wall". When accomplishments speak for themselves ,what else can be said? I truly believe in Scotty's integrety,I can't say the same for all who sit on the committee. A perfect scnerio would be to have the attendees who pay the bucks each year to support the ISGA, nominate and vote on it's nominees at each convention. Is that not what the reason for "a Convention". To gather and elec officers,and inductions.Other than that it is just totally an excuse to bring in $$$$$ each year. Is there actually a membership? Dues ect.Can anyone join as in the NTSGA.(one example) Where members are allowed to vote in it's Officers. Where treasury ballances are openly published as are the minutes of any meeting.When the Committee meets at this Convention are the people who pay and travel great distances to convent allowed to attend?? These questions are not meant to put down all the great work the "Convention" has and is doing to further the growth of the Steel Guitar.A lot of Countries and all states are most certainly in attendance each year.St Louis is always a big winner labor day weekend. ------------------ |
Buck Grantham Member From: Denham Springs, LA. USA |
![]() I think he should be in the Hall of Fame if any one is. |
Dave A. Burley Member From: Franklin, In. USA |
![]() I was visiting Henry Ade in late 75 when Henry put on a reel to reel tape for me to listen to. This was during the period that I was researching steel guitar to pick the players that I wanted on the Cavalcade Of Guitars recorded in Dallas, Texas in 76. I started to listen and was blown away. I had never heard this playing before. Henry told me that it was himself. I just couldn't believe it and I told Henry that, although he wasn't a name steel player, he was going to have to be one the the steel players on the session in Dallas, Henry finally told me that it was Maurice Anderson. That was my introduction to Maurice. He was contacted to be on the Dallas concert which he did oblige. One of my very favorites and a big favorite of the jazz guitarists that were also on the session. My vote is in for Maurice's introduction in the SGHOF. Thanks, Dave A. Burley |
Jody Carver Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever |
![]() Jim Vogan Thank you. Bob D. Fred S. David L.D Mike P. Bob D. Myron L. Buck G.Dave Dave A.B I couldn't agree more whole heartedly with your comments. My comments were meant to help Fred S. I thought that I was the king of long posts but we are tied for that title Thank you all for your support of Maurice and again try to understand my logic. I hope this resolves itself the way you wish and what is due the person who deserves this
David Donald, Gil Hodges the greatest first baseman to ever play for the Brooklyn Dodgers and then manage the New York Mets to its first ever World Championshipin 1969 has to this day been ignored by those who nominate the players that are indcuted in the HOF in Cooperstown NY. Gil has set and broken many records during his illustrious career,he passed away at age 47 in 1972,and to this day I wonder why he has been ignored. Those who have ignored this man who was a star player and a dedicated family man on and off the field is still not recognized by those who have control. I am a baseball fanatic and your comments are Good point there my friend,and thank you for "Play Ball" Edited to say. I played shortstop. Thank you. bOb you can bench me, but dont trade me. On second thought If you traded me [This message was edited by Jody Carver on 01 August 2003 at 12:02 PM.] |
Bobby Lee Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA |
![]() Fred Shannon wrote: quote:That pretty much answers my question. I don't understand these folks who are equating the convention (ISGC) with the hall of fame (SGHOF). Boycotting the convention because you disagree with the SGHOF doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. There is no real connection between the two - they are separate things. One is a large event sponsored by Scotty and the steel guitar business community. The other is a small, non-profit organization that meets once a year. Money gained or lost by the ISGC does not affect the SGHOF. If you don't go to St. Louis, you're just missing out on the greatest steel guitar show on the planet. Your decision not to attend has zero impact on the SGHOF. ------------------ |
Fred Shannon Member From: Rocking "S" Ranch, Comancheria, Texas |
![]() b0b I hope that you in no way can read anything into my part of this topic about any boycotting of anything. That is not the way to solve any problems. The SGHOF factor was and will always be my only rhetoric. The Convention itself never even entered my mind. If I wasn't working those days I would be seated on the front row and visiting every room. I'm also very proud of most of the posters who have kept most of the flames out of this topic. I plead that all opinions can be expressed fully without any animosity generated between anyone. But one has to admit, this has been very educational with regards to the SGHOF operation--to me at least. Fred ------------------ |
Jody Carver Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever |
![]() Edited..My posts are long enough without my double posting..Sorry "Double Play" 4 to 6 to 3....thats baseball talk for short to second to first. "Yer Out". I mean I'm out,, [This message was edited by Jody Carver on 01 August 2003 at 12:44 PM.] |
Joey Ace Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada |
![]() quote: That's true, but since 2001 they have decided it's better kept secret until the announcement at the convention. b0b is respecting Scotty's wishes by asking it not be leaked here. I don't agree with the decission to keep it secret, but I do agree that we should respect Scotty's request. |
Mac Bellingrath Member From: Pine Bluff, Arkansas, USA |
![]() I am a relatively new steel player, and I would feel remiss not to say that I was surprised to learn last year that Reece had not already been inducted. I have known his name for many years, both for his playing and the MSA guitar. The Millenium model is just one more of the many reasons why Reece should be in the Hall of Fame. I was privileged to have a lesson with Reece the Monday after the TSGA show earlier this year. What an eye-opener it was for me! And how modest this master musician is! When it comes to the highest steel guitar recognition being conveyed to Reece, count me in as one who believes he is richly deserving. -- Mac Bellingrath |
Craig A Davidson Member From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA |
![]() Without a lengthy post this is all that has to be said;" Reece deserves to be in The Steel Guitar Hall Of Fame, and that's that." ------------------ |
kbdrost Member From: Barrington, IL |
![]() I guess I can only agree with Craig. I admit that I am not aware of the full story surrounding the old MSA; however, I know enough to know that it does not even approach by lightyears the sordid saga of other business failures, past and present. I also know that, whatever happened cannot detract from the undeniable merit that this gentleman has demonstrated under any criteria by which he is judged, including those listed by Mr. Winston. I also would hope, for the sake of the integrity of this institution, that his induction is not barred a technicality related to the lack of a "current" nomination. If that is the case, then I sympathize completely with those who would boycott this institution and anything remotely associated with it, including the convention. I've seen Reece play several times, most recently in Dallas this spring. He never ceases to amaze me with his innovation and creativity. Without taking anything away from current inductees, there are lesser men already admitted. It is time to give Reece his due. ------------------ |
George Keoki Lake Member From: Edmonton, AB., Canada |
![]() There is not a doubt in my mind that Reece deserves the HOF. His credentials speak for themself. And you know, there is one other pioneer right here amongst us, (on the Forum), who richly deserves the recognition also. He is a fantastic musician, speaks his mind, makes a hell of a lot of sense and, whenever told how great he is, he is the first to play it down. Everyone on the Forum should know of whom I am referring...it doesn't take a rocket scientist. Just go back into the history of the Fender steel guitar and his name is there for all to see. |
David L. Donald Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand |
![]() George that's a good idea to.. and he's too modest to boot. Gil Hodges & Reece Anderson for All Star teams... works for me. Jody I remember accidentally being in NYC, before I lived there, when the Mets played Boston for the series. Standing in line at the Blue Note listening to the game on a mini TV on a car roof, I was asked where I was from.. I said Philadelphia... seemed safer at the time. I will be at the convention, and don't equate going there with perpetuating an untenable situation in the HOF. If I bump into a board member, I then have a chance to nicely have my say. |
Johan Jansen Member From: Europe |
![]() Reece should be there! If not this year, I hope one of the next! Johan |
J D Sauser Member From: Traveling, currently in Switzerland, soon to be either back in the States or on the Eastern part of Hispaniola Island |
![]() I have just finished my re-sub letter of nomination for Maurice to be sent directly from the States to the SG-HOF board upon my arrival on my next trip to Florida in mid August. As it may not get into the hands of the board in time to be considered at this year's meeting (for next year's inductions), I hope many of those who have voiced their "vote" and "count me in" here, will find the time to put up a couple of extra minutes for Maurice and write up their nomination to the SG-HOF board, in acordance with their rules as posted on their site (click here and scroll to bottom). Click here to read my letter of nomination for 2000 / 2001 Thanks! ... J-D [This message was edited by J D Sauser on 02 August 2003 at 11:41 AM.] |
Damir Besic Member From: La Vergne,TN |
![]() well,maybe Reece doesn`t wont to be in there...possible?...maybe he really don`t care about being in SGHOF?...what would that bring to him that he doesn`t have already ,money?respect?,he has all of that already and without SGHOF.Maybe it`s SGHOF just something he doesn`t care too much about. ------------------ |
Myron Labelle unregistered |
![]() For two organizations that are supposed to be separate from each other it seems to me like they get in the same bed with each other.In that case why is the Steel Guitar HOF in of all places a St. Louis Hotel cellar that changes names more than Elizabeth Taylor changed husbands? ------------------ |
Reece Anderson Member From: Keller Texas USA |
![]() I want to express my most sincere appreciation for the very the kind words expressed. I also extend my heart felt thanks to those of you who have maintained your faith in me while supporting my efforts over the years. In addition to the posts, I have received many emails, and each post and email has been very meaningful to me, for both their positive message, and for continually reminding me of how blessed I truly am to have such great friends and supporters. |
David L. Donald Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand |
![]() As usual Reece what you have to say is very well phrased. And diplomatic to a fault. I don't really see you as someone who would lobby for induction into the SGHOF. Jody noted the concept of peer preasure. I should think the voices of many different players of greatly varied backgrounds, abilities and styles, all resonating on the same point should be a valid input to the board. I do know that whom ever is chosen this year I will buy one of their CDs toute de suite. [This message was edited by David L. Donald on 03 August 2003 at 04:36 PM.] |
KENNY KRUPNICK Member From: Grove City,Ohio |
![]() Hi Reece!!You have my vote for sure. Thank you for being there. Kenny Krupnick |
Al Marcus Member From: Cedar Springs,MI USA |
![]() Everyone knows how I feel about Reece and the SGHOF. I have been posting my feelings on it for years. I said it before and I will say it again- "If not Reece", Who? And Why not?...al ------------------ [This message was edited by Al Marcus on 03 August 2003 at 10:21 PM.] |
Fred Shannon Member From: Rocking "S" Ranch, Comancheria, Texas |
![]() This post is made, not to jump the subject back to the front of the topic, but to let you know that Scotty, at the busiest time of his year took the time to forward the following to me..It is a cut and pasted text from an email I received from him this day, at 2:18 AM this morning: "Dear Mr. Shannon, 'Nuff said' FRED ------------------ |
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