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Author | Topic: A New "Music City"?? |
Theresa Galbraith Member From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA |
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Eric West Member From: Portland, Oregon, USA |
![]() Gene.. You mean there's a "Lost Cause" that I Missed...? Can't let that happen... EJL |
Theresa Galbraith Member From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA |
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Leigh Howell Member From: Holly Ridge, NC, USA |
![]() I think longing for the old days is a normal thing. The older I get I find myself longing for the days when I used to fish with a safety pin for a hook! Ran barefoot thru thru the hills etc. I feel the same about country music. It wont ever be as I remember it when I was younger. No more than I will ever run barefoot thru the hills again. But I can still remember how it was, and enjoy the old songs that I have in my collection, and enjoy other kinds of music as well.And as someone said there are many young folks enjoying, and playing traditional country as well.I dont think it will ever disappear. And I dont think there's a conspiracy to get rid of it. |
Theresa Galbraith Member From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA |
![]() I guess it's like being compared to an ex-wife or ex-husband. It was in the past. |
John Steele Member From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada |
![]() I've spent alot of time pondering this, and come to this disappointing conclusion; If you play traditional country, then you play "period music". And I'm not talking about this period either. Add yourself to the list of artists interested in something that's been pressed into a historical frame, never to be "new" again, but beautiful nonetheless. Yup. Swing players, classical players, singers of Gregorian Chants... we're all in it together. -John ------------------ |
Kenny Dail Member From: Kinston, N.C. 28504 |
![]() I haven't heard of a country station yet that would take requests. They are all playing the programs that they have "subscribed to." There maybe an occaisional "Indy" that only has about a 1000 watts to push their signal that has the guts enough to take a request. And if they were a subscriber to the NCS format, they would not take requests either. In fact I don't know of a country station...period. ------------------ |
Eric West Member From: Portland, Oregon, USA |
![]() Gene, and others. A letter I read from Mr Schmit put me on to a "Theory" His equation he said was passed on to him was stunningly simple. A=Audience I was about to let it go until I remembered MY initial immersion with Live Music. The Old SHows, like Billy Walker, Hank Snow and the like were almost Supernatural in their imprinting on me. This was WAY before any casual drug use. Later the times I spent listening to Bud Charleton and the String Dusters, at Hunters Lodge, and Don West at the Village Barn similarly left me permamantly imprinted. They had done their jobs RIGHT. At many times since, I have passed on Concert Tickets, as I still regularly do, and the only reason is because I've "Seen The Best" and it really was "enough". All I have to do to see HS and the Rainbow Ranch Boys sparkling under the carbon arc lights, or Bud Charleton and the String Dusters taking my breath away with "Thunder Road" is to just close my eyes and remember. They did their jobs That Well I think of My 'Career' playing for audiences. Such as it has been. Every time I do, I make an effort to go out and talk to people. I feel this sincere urge to tell them, especially if they drink too much, that if anything I want to inspire them, and they'll be able to live their lives without a constant "empty feeling" for "entertainment". I always tell them to "come back with friends", but I get this feeling that I get when I'm lying to somebody. I DO mean it when I tell them to "Drive Careful", and I note the difference between the sincerity of the two. It's dawned on me that with many of us, that it is our aim to somehow impart things to them that help their "souls" and make them less deficient to the point where they're out there "carousing". I know it's kind of stupid, and I don't claim to be a rocket scientist, but let's consider maybe that instead of people not liking "our music" being the reason that Austin has now about 10% of the "live country music" that Portland had twenty years ago, maybe it's because Our Music, and live performance of it, has done what we, in our better moments, have wanted it to do. In short, maybe it's made people feel more "whole". You don't see that many idiots with chicken feathers in their hats 'looking for love' anymore. Maybe we helped them find it, or at least stop looking for it "in all the wrong places." Maybe if we'd "known that" we'd have "choked up a little".... I know it's a stupid thought, but sometimes the best of them are just "stupid thoughts" that no one else thought of before.. SSM as they say... ( .... music plays in the background...,. " (Hello I'm a Jukebox)....... "Tonite the jukebox......")
EJL [This message was edited by Eric West on 12 January 2004 at 01:35 AM.] |
David L. Donald Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand |
![]() Damir I have to agree with Bob Hoffner. NYC is the best music place on the planet. If you think there is one brilliant guitarist in a million poaple, then there are at minimum 7-10 in NYC and environs. I have seen more of the best music in my 5 years there than anywhere. I have been debating coming back to the USA, but couldn't think where. I love NYC, but the cost of putting a studio there is prohibitive. Oh yeah I had a bluegrass band in NYC, [This message was edited by David L. Donald on 12 January 2004 at 02:42 AM.] |
Gene Jones Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA |
![]() ......Maybe it's just the Cops and the MAD Mothers! Eric...... That may very well be the primary reason! The fans of the country music era that used to be, were totally involved in their quest...as the current outing was winding down they were already making plans with their friends where to go "next" weekend! But, the enjoyment of those events always included the liberal consumption of "spirits", either from a discrete bottle from the bootlegger during prohibition days, or the legal liquor of the later "Club" days.....and of course the biggest fan base of country music MAY have been the weekend crowds around a Juke Box with the volumn maxed in thousands of beer joints all over the USA. But all those folks had to get in their cars and find their way home after those fun outings, and the days of the police "looking the other way" as long as a driver could still walk without staggering, eventually ended. Driving under the influence citations began to severely penalize violators with substantial fines, and many began to see "jail" time. The fun crowd stopped going out on weekends for fear of getting caught in a road-block with alcohol on their breath, and having to face the Boss on Monday morning and the possible loss of their job. I'm not unhappy about having fewer drunk drivers to avoid on our streets and highways.....strict traffic enforcement and MAD has given the public a safer environment and undoubtedly saved many lives. My hypothesis: Was the public's enjoyment of country music during the golden era because they were loyal fans of the music....or was it primarily because of the "party environment" that accompanied it? I dunno....I only know that it's gone, and Eric only needed one line to say everything I've said! [This message was edited by Gene Jones on 12 January 2004 at 06:17 AM.] |
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![]() I think Nashville comes in third for diversity to NY and LA. If your center is Jazz, NY. If its Pop, LA, If its Country, Nashville. Paul |
Lawrence Lupkin Member From: Brooklyn, New York, USA |
![]() Hey Howard, how about an opera about a dead dog? |
C Dixon Member From: Duluth, GA USA |
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Dave Birkett Member From: Oxnard, CA, USA |
![]() Guys, it ain't the Nashville record companies; it's the conglomeration of radio stations. You should the TV ads for country radio here in SoCal. They all show young suburban women enjoying themselves without a hint, visually speaking, of anything country: nary a Stetson or a boot. If radio wanted to reach a different demographic and play what we would call country music, Nashville would be more than happy to supply the recordings. |
Bob Hoffnar Member From: Brooklyn, NY |
![]() One thing I should make clear is that in my experience NYC is the greatest and most diverse musical scene on the planet. But the country scene is weak at best. Country music is mostly a shtick in NY. The real guys are in Nashville and Texas. Country is a living and breathing part of the culture there and nowhere else comes close. Also in NYC there are no great steel players. There are a couple guys that can hold there own with what they chose to play but we are all cheap hacks compared to guys like John Hughey, Reece Anderson, Gary Carpenter, Paul, Buddy and about 200 other Nashville and Texas pickers. The last guy to live in NYC that could really play was Gib Warton. (Robert Randolph lives over in Jersey so I'm not counting him.) The only place I've been where the general quality of musicians was up there with NYC is Nashville. Because NYC has so many different and thriving musical scenes I give it the edge. I've been spending a fair amount of time in LA these days but I still don't understand the scene there. For you guys that get your culture from big radio and tv you are way out of touch. Thinking that the world of music is limited to what you hear on the San Antonio controlled mass market radio is the same as thinking that the only food in the world comes from either McDonald's or Wendy's. Bob [This message was edited by Bob Hoffnar on 12 January 2004 at 05:39 PM.] |
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