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Bob Smith Member From: Allentown, New Jersey, USA |
posted 17 February 2004 12:02 PM
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Just wonderin here? Has there ever been a band that included two steel players? Ive seen bands with 2 drummers, 2 or 3 or 4 six string players, 2 fiddles , multiple horns, and so on. 2 steel guitars ive never seen. Bob |
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Earnest Bovine Member From: Los Angeles CA USA |
posted 17 February 2004 12:12 PM
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Re Winkler hired 3 steel players at once, but he told us all to play other instruments and leave our steel guitars at home. |
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Billy Wilson Member From: El Cerrito, California, USA |
posted 17 February 2004 12:14 PM
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Here's a story about an accidental 2 steel gig. Band leader for western swing band Lost Weekend, Don Burnham, calls me to come and play snare drum and brushes for his regular Wednesday gig a at Paul's Saloon in San Francisco. When I get there it turns out Don has accidentaly booked Bobby Black and Vance Terry to play the gig on Steel. So Don says "What the heck, why don't you both play". At no point during that evening did I hear one iota of ego coming from either side of me just fabulous steel guitar playing. At the end of it my girlfriend said I played georguos drums so I went home a very happy camper. BW |
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Jerry Hayes Member From: Virginia Beach, Va. |
posted 17 February 2004 12:38 PM
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A couple of Sundays ago a friend of mine who's a bass player asked me to bring my steel to their big jam session and play. Unknown to me, the acoustic guitar player had asked another player (Rick Mann) to come also. Rick and I are good friends so we set up our steels on both sides of the bandstand and proceeded to have one of the best times ever. We did twin versions of Steel Guitar Rag, Sleepwalk, and a couple of others requests. It was a great night and we're going to do it again soon....Have a good 'un...JH ------------------ |
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Ray Jenkins Member From: Gold Canyon Az. Pinal U.S.A. |
posted 17 February 2004 01:16 PM
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Louie Thompson and I played steels together in the Canyon Country Band here in ApacheJunction Az. He has since moved back to Michg. Ray ------------------ |
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Dale Bennett Member From: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, USA |
posted 17 February 2004 01:52 PM
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In Hank Thompsons early years he carried 2 steel players. I think that Pee Wee Withewing was one of them. I hope I'm right. db |
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Dale Bennett Member From: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, USA |
posted 17 February 2004 01:54 PM
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Sorry I misspelled Whitewing. sorry,db |
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Bobby Boggs Member From: Pendleton SC |
posted 17 February 2004 02:06 PM
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And Bobby White was the other.They played some cool stuff.Red Skin Gal comes to mind.Several others........bb |
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Dean Neeley Member From: SC USA |
posted 17 February 2004 02:07 PM
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You are right about that Dale, the other was was the late Bob White. Dean Neeley |
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Reece Anderson Member From: Keller Texas USA |
posted 17 February 2004 02:20 PM
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The late great Gene Crownover and I both played steel guitar with Bob Wills at the same time. |
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Vernon Hester Member From: Cayce,SC USA |
posted 17 February 2004 02:34 PM
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I got to see both Emmons and Day with Ray Price some years ago in Charlotte NC. I had went over to vist with Ray Crisp (Fiddle) as he and I use to do The Cousin Wilbur TV show. after the show Emmons was trying out a black Emmons guitar.The were using Sho-Buds during the show. Vern |
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Dale Bennett Member From: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, USA |
posted 17 February 2004 02:37 PM
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Reece,did you ever know a guy named Fred Gamble? He sang with Wills. Anyway, he had a little club here in OKC, it was an after hours club then. He would have some of the the old pickers come and do an all nite jam. I got to know Crownvoer and Famous Amos Hedricks and a lot of the guys. We would go over after our gigs and just sit in awe listening to those guys and getting to pick with them.I sure do miss Fred and the guys,God rest thier souls. Hope to meet you someday. db |
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Al Michalczak Member From: San Antonio, Texas, USA |
posted 17 February 2004 02:50 PM
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When there was room on the stage at the Jake Hooker show (before Dicky Overbey got sick), Bobby Flores would set up his 65 wrap next to Dickys 66 bolt and they worked up some pretty cool twin stuff. Hope Dicky will be back soon to do it again. Al |
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HowardR Member From: N.Y.C.,N.Y. |
posted 17 February 2004 03:58 PM
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The Jivemasters in Portland, OR. |
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Scott Henderson Member From: Eldon, Missouri, USA |
posted 17 February 2004 04:00 PM
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Gene crownover there's a blast from the past. what a great guy... back in november I got the great fortune to set side by side with one of the best E9 players i ever heard. his name is Pat Heller we started off the night playing the intro to way to survive in harmony WITH CHIMES!!!!!!! I think I peed a little..great night of pickin. ------------------ |
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Jeff Coffell Member From: Killeen Texas |
posted 17 February 2004 05:47 PM
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PLUMB COUNTRY carries 2 steel players. Well, O K, 1 and a 1/4. Skeeter Black and myself most nights. We are often joined by the great BILL DEARMORE from Belton TX. Bill used to run the road with or friend Gene Watson. Jeff |
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P Perry Member From: Waynesville, OH, USA |
posted 17 February 2004 06:26 PM
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I have been told that at one point Jimmy Crawford and Smiley Roberts both toured with Tommy Overstreet. |
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Bob Smith Member From: Allentown, New Jersey, USA |
posted 17 February 2004 07:10 PM
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Well there ya go, I figured somebody must have pulled it off before, Im sure it works great! bob |
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Jody Sanders Member From: Magnolia,Texas |
posted 17 February 2004 08:11 PM
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Buddy Emmons and Bobby Garrett both set their steels on stage when they were with Ernest Tubb, When Ernest came out, Buddy switched to lead guitar. Jody. |
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R. E. Klaus Member From: Montana, USA |
posted 17 February 2004 09:56 PM
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Sometime about '74, Jim Ed Brown had two steel players for a short time. It was just before Hank Corwin left to pursue session work. As I remember it (and I sometimes remember incorrectly) the new steel player was Mike Smith. R.E. [This message was edited by R. E. Klaus on 17 February 2004 at 11:31 PM.] |
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Billy Wilson Member From: El Cerrito, California, USA |
posted 18 February 2004 01:03 AM
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Fairly recently there was a reunion of the the Shorty Joe band which included Bobby Black and Pee Wee Whitewing at the Saramento Western Swing Society monthly dance. I was not able to be there myself but I was told that Bobby and Pee Wee were able to play dual steel ensemble parts that they had had together 50 years earlier from memory!!!! Shouldn't somebody make this happen at least one more time? Morrrell? DeWitt? BW |
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George Plemons Member From: Corsicana, Texas, USA |
posted 18 February 2004 12:15 PM
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The best I ever heard was a band called MoonShine that was playing in Seven Points Texas when I heard them..two amateurs by the name of Junior Knight and Gary Hogue were both steel players in that band and I believe the legendary Donnie McDuff was on guitar among other greats in the Dallas area. Partner that was some kinda cool. |
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Bob Miano Member From: Bergenfield, N.J. (home of "some" country music) |
posted 18 February 2004 12:33 PM
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I think Linda Ronstadt used 2 steels (maybe just for one night/one song) Silver Threads & Golden Needles was the song. Steel Players were......... I'm guessing Dan Dugmore and ???? I may have a copy of that somewhere; will have to look around. Bob |
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Jesse Harris Member From: Los Angeles, California, USA |
posted 18 February 2004 12:59 PM
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Bob are you sure that was 2 steels, or was that one steel and good ole Bob Warford on bender tele? |
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Stu Schulman Member From: anchorage,alaska |
posted 18 February 2004 01:08 PM
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I saw Linda Ronstadt at the Armadillo in Austin in about 1976 she had Dan Dugmore,and Ed Black. |
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Reece Anderson Member From: Keller Texas USA |
posted 18 February 2004 01:45 PM
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Dale B....To my recollection I never had the pleasure of meeting Fred Gamble, but I certainly heard about him. Joe Andrews, Roy Claybourn and Luke Wills were singing with Bob Wills when I was with him. I of course know famous Amos Hedrick, what a great fiddle player. I too hope we have the opportunity to meet in the near future. |
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Arty Passes Member From: Austin, TX |
posted 18 February 2004 08:11 PM
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John Macy and Ed Steeves in Boston in the mid 70s were a great inspiration to me.....
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Garth Highsmith Member From: |
posted 18 February 2004 08:45 PM
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. [This message was edited by Garth Highsmith on 12 January 2006 at 09:33 AM.] |
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Mylos Sonka Member From: Larkspur CA USA |
posted 19 February 2004 12:14 AM
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Hey Longhead-- I was the lucky guy on rhythm guitar sitting next to Pee Wee and Bobby on that Sacramento show. What a thrill. Mylos |
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c c johnson Member From: killeen,tx usa |
posted 19 February 2004 04:51 AM
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I was in a 5 piece band and all played steel. The others played various instruments. People would say to me it must feel great to be the best and play steel while the others had to move to different ibstruments. The truth was that I was the worst but since I could didn't have enough smart to learn another instrument I had to play steel by default. Reece, Jerry told me that years ago you, Tom Morrell, Bud Carter, and I believe one other steeler were in the same band and every little flub on steel was met with a loud "BOO". |
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George Keoki Lake Member From: Edmonton, AB., Canada |
posted 19 February 2004 07:36 AM
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Being the Hawaiian buff that I am, I will digress this subject from country/western to the field I know best. Probably one of the longest running shows in radio history was "Hawai'i Calls"....1936-1974 (plus the revival years into the mid eighties after Webley Edwards had passed on). Now, as I understand the story, Webley Edwards for many years depended upon the great David Keli'i on steel guitar. Later, when David left the show, Webley hired a replacement to David. Apparently, Webley was faced with the problem of an ill steel guitarist at one point and had to act fast. From that time onwards, Webley always used TWO steel guitarists on this memorable radio show. The last two being Barney Isaacs and Joe Custino if I am correct.  [This message was edited by George Keoki Lake on 19 February 2004 at 07:37 AM.] |
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John Floyd Member From: Somewhere between Camden County , NC and Saluda S.C. |
posted 19 February 2004 08:48 AM
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quote: That was probably the Late Gary Boggs, Earl Erb would know for sure, He was the Bandleader. |
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Dan Tyack Member From: Seattle, WA USA |
posted 24 February 2004 11:21 PM
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I played a number of dates with a country band in CA with Bobby Black. As well as a forgettable night with the New Riders of the Purple Sage. ------------------ |
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Bob Miano Member From: Bergenfield, N.J. (home of "some" country music) |
posted 26 February 2004 11:29 AM
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Thanks Stu, That's it. ED BLACK and DAN DUGMORE. Bob Miano |
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Mark van Allen Member From: loganville, Ga. USA |
posted 26 February 2004 04:53 PM
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I shared steel space in my first band with Tom Stolaski, which was a big help to me as he was 9 months or a year ahead of me. He just recently sent me a CD of our circa '75 noodlings and it's fascinating how different our styles were right from the beginning. I still sound exactly the same, unfortunately... ------------------ |
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Wally Giffin Member From: Tacoma, Wa USA |
posted 27 February 2004 02:28 PM
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My wife, Judy Kuneman-Giffin, said to me a few years before she passed away from colon cancer that her hearts desire was to be on the bandstand with just two steel pickers, a drummer and her playing bass and singing. I told her she had mentioned that to the wrong person, so---- On the Saturday night dance we had for the last Northwest Pedal Steel Jam we picked seven of the best steel pickers in the area plus eight of the best vocalists who were available that night. We also were lucky enough to have David Wright come up here as well, along with several vendors, including Carter, Tom Bradshaw, Sierra and more. So two good steel pickers, two good singers, a bass and drums, for each of the four sets. And we only had 15 min breaks between them. We even had a lead picker on standby just in case---BUT he did not get to pick very much. What wonderful music that 20 string cheese cutter can put out and it doesn't make any difference that it is backup or lead or what type or kind of music it is. That night was devoted to stricktly backup--Something many closet steel pickers never get to hear live. I would like to try that again sometime, except that it would much better to have more than 93 folks come in the door when you've paid $500 bucks just for the room for one day. Some of you guys might try it that way sometime. Won't make any money, but you'll get to hear the best of the best. |
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Dan Tyack Member From: Seattle, WA USA |
posted 27 February 2004 07:16 PM
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That was a great idea, Wally, and it was an amazing night. I loved playing with Larry Behm, but my only regret was not playing with you and Judy. BUt I have done that before and since, so I guess I have no complaints... - ------------------ |
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Bill Plemmons Member From: Simpsonville, SC |
posted 28 February 2004 07:30 AM
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Had the pleasure of hearing Reece Anderson and I believe, Gene Crownover with Bob Wills at the NCO Club, Clinton Sherman AFB OK in the early 1960's. What a night!! That's when I really got hooked on steel guitar. Reece was playing a single neck guitar that night with more pedals and strings than I had ever seen. And I might add played it well. |
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Eric West Member From: Portland, Oregon, USA |
posted 29 February 2004 02:40 PM
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Here's a FINE example of our local "Emmons Contingent". I could never understand it myself, but I guess they only made so many Sho~Buds.... Harley James, my personal local idol, sitting in in Doug Jones' (Larry Jeff's) Band Renta.. er Renegade, with the incredible DJ, and Larry Jeffers and Judy Lynn singing their hearts out on the BEST shuffles (and Horseshoes (for the dancers)) that I know of around here. Incidentally Larry has been a stable bass player for our local Steel Conventions in the years I can remember, and I think it's about getting to be time for one here again ( hint hint...). Pictured also is someone I haven't seen MANY Years, Dana Kelly, the not so young protege of the Late Richard Edge. Last time I'd seen him was around 20 years ago blasting out telecaster and fiddle through the world's hottest Princeton next to Little Richard in Amarillo in 87. I hope to see more if him when I fill in for Doug later in March. All in all a FINE show, and if they'd have caught me slipping in, I'd have gladly paid the cover charge. Not many outfits I'd do that for where the acts wear clothes. EJL [This message was edited by Eric West on 29 February 2004 at 02:41 PM.] |
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Bobby Lee Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA |
posted 29 February 2004 05:05 PM
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I have some LPs of "The New Hawaiian Band" that include Jerry Byrd and Barney Isaacs Jr. playing together. I'm not sure if it was ever a performing act, though. ------------------ |
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