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Tony Palmer Member From: Lincoln, RI USA |
posted 21 May 2005 04:05 AM
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I notice a lot of steelers mention they play for church services, sometimes remarking they ONLY play in church. I'm not familiar with that here in New England (although I do know one steeler from CT who does this) and I would think this to be the most difficult gig I could imagine! The church I attend is extremely quiet and I can't imagine playing steel in there with every single note being heard loud and clear....I would be afraid of playing wrong notes! Isn't that the case? |
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Rick Garrett Member From: Tyler, Texas |
posted 21 May 2005 04:23 AM
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Down here in the south church's aren't all that quiet. Folks clap and shout Amen and plus there's usually at least one other guitar player and probably more, keyboard, piana, bass, drums, sometimes horns and of course the singing. Rick |
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Erv Niehaus Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA |
posted 21 May 2005 07:50 AM
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Tony, When I play in church, I like to have some backup to share the blame. Usually this consists of some tracks made with the help of BIAB. However, in a couple of weeks I will be doing a duet together with my daughter. I will be playing dobro and my daughter on autoharp. The last time she played, people commented about not being able to hear her so I have a stick on pickup coming from Elderly's so I can amplify the autoharp. Erv PS: When you are playing the Lord's music, the Holy Spirit steps in and helps you out! [This message was edited by Erv Niehaus on 21 May 2005 at 07:52 AM.] |
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Darvin Willhoite Member From: Leander, Tx. USA |
posted 21 May 2005 08:18 AM
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I play steel in the Praise and Worship band at Christian Life Church in Austin, Tx. and we are sure not quiet. We believe if people can get excited and emotional about things such as sports, why not get excited about Church. We play mostly more modern praise songs, but occasionally we do some Country flavored stuff. Our Pastor sang a Randy Travis song for Mothers Day, this year and it was "git down, hardcore Country". The steel guitar fits right in with the other instruments. I use effects quite often, such as chorus, and distortion, and also play some C6th on some of the songs. My day job keeps interfering with playing anywhere else, but I'm at church anyway on Sunday and Wednesday, so thats my "gig". Here's a picture of part of the group, the guy singing, usually plays electric guitar, and we have an acoustic guitar player, organ, and a second keyboard for strings etc. Of course we have drums too that are not shown. ------------------ |
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Ken Thompson Member From: Great Falls, Montana, USA |
posted 21 May 2005 08:28 AM
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I occassionally play steel in a very contemporary church, sometimes with only a couple hours of sleep after a two hour drive from a club date. Iusually play the bass in church. Three members of our band play sporadically in the church as well and all are members. Fortunately, we drink seldom if at all, so that is not a problem. I play everything from modern country songs that have a Christian message to pop/rock Christian songs. I never fail to get very favorable comments from the congregation on how much they love the steel. Even from those that don't know what it is. The steel actually goes with most songs. You just have to play it a little differently and adjust to the style. |
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Charles Curtis Member From: Bethesda, Maryland, USA |
posted 21 May 2005 09:26 AM
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I used to play a dobro in a small church in a suburb of Houston many years ago. Loved it. |
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Gene Jones Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA |
posted 21 May 2005 09:56 AM
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* [This message was edited by Gene Jones on 21 May 2005 at 01:41 PM.] |
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Farris Currie Member From: Ona, Florida, USA |
posted 21 May 2005 10:46 AM
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I can't believe this!!i have played in churchs all over,FL.GA.TENN,and never had no complaints.and played sho-buds tooooooo. I always had request for AMAZING GRACE,LIFES RAILWAY TO HEAVEN,and on and on. IF i wasn't excepted with a 10string inst.i be on down the road quick. What about drums,all that noise!!no harm meant guys,just dont get it. farris |
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Curt Langston Member From: ***In the shadows of Tulsa at Bixby, USA*** |
posted 21 May 2005 12:01 PM
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Hey tony, some of the BEST playing times are in church. When a group of people come together to glorify God, it is truly amazing! I have seen people who are really not that good on their instrument,(me being one of them) come into a new realm when the Spirit of God moves, and sound fantastic.  |
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George Redmon Member From: |
posted 21 May 2005 12:54 PM
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Christians appreciate good music! Sweetie says..if i drag her kicking and screaming to my club dates...she makes sure i play in church normally once a month..but have been lacking off the past few months...There is alot more pressure on church musicians then any other captive audence on earth. Some church's i have played in..clapping, feet stomping and even dancing in the isles..some stone faced, and couldn't wait untill we were through seems like...Try to play an "Alter Call" sometime, when people are crying, yelling, and actually all but crawling to the alter..pressure..you better believe it son...But the most enjoyable time i had in church playing, was at Pastor DePoy's church in Muskegon Michigan..Had LT Zinn playing guitar behind me, and Frank Rogers' Mother Evelyn in the congregation, i think that would be enough pressure for anyone! ------------------ |
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Rick Garrett Member From: Tyler, Texas |
posted 21 May 2005 01:03 PM
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To me there ain't no better reason to play than church. To use the gift of music that God gave us all, whether its singing or playing, to glorify the Lord is what its meant for. Also some of the absolute prettiest music I've ever heard in church had no instruments playing at all. It was awesome! Like Roy Rosetta says, "Music, a gift with many wrappings." Rick |
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Terry Sneed Member From: El Dorado, Arkansas, USA |
posted 21 May 2005 01:15 PM
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Tony, there are some churches that don't beleive in music in church. Church of Christ is one. I've never understood the reasoning behind that. But I'm not knockin their beleif. Our church has a piano player, a bass, a rythem guitar drums and I play my steel most of the time, and sometimes my Strat. yep, we're one of the clappin-foot stompin-shoutin type of churches.  Terry ------------------ |
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Tony Palmer Member From: Lincoln, RI USA |
posted 21 May 2005 01:51 PM
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Wow! These responses have been a real eye opener for me...I never thought of steel playing this exact way before. I guess I had a picture of a steel set up in the back of the church, just playing solo, unaccompanied. I guess the marriage of steel and religion is ....should I say, one made in heaven?! |
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Farris Currie Member From: Ona, Florida, USA |
posted 21 May 2005 05:27 PM
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Once upon a time,i played on sat.night at a club,then sunday in church.GOD showed me quick,you can't stradle the fence,your either for him or against him.MY Kids excepted JESUS,on sat evening,man i never been in such termoil that night, i promised GOD if he get me out of there,never again,and thats been about 30yrs ago.we can't dable in sin and serve GOD. farris |
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James Marlowe Member From: Lakeland, Florida, USA |
posted 21 May 2005 06:47 PM
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What Rick said: To use the gift of music that God gave us all, whether its singing or playing, to glorify the Lord is what its meant for. I don't have a huge gift, but God wants availability, not ability. I always try to do my best for Him and that's all He expects. It's not nearly as nerve wracking as trying to play perfect for a secular crowd! |
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Ted Solesky Member From: Mineral Wells, Texas, USA |
posted 21 May 2005 08:09 PM
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In a way, in church, you're thanking God for the talent he gave you. But what is really a positive benefit, from this, is that the steel guitar is getting good exposure that is much needed. |
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Peter Hart Member From: Massachusetts, USA |
posted 21 May 2005 08:21 PM
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I am new to the SGF. Hello everyone! I have been playing lead guitar in our churches' Wednesday night youth band for about four years now and it is great seeing the teens worship, they are our future. I've also played the steel in church quite a few years ago and actually put it down for the last ten or so. I'm just getting back into it now, a bit rusty! No better use for music than in praising the Lord! |
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Del Ray Grace Member From: Toledo, Ohio, USA |
posted 21 May 2005 08:49 PM
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Hello Tony, I was first introduced to the (Sacred Steel) guitar (as we refer to it)in our church over 30 years ago. It is and has been the lead instrument of praise and worship for over seventy years. It is also considered a Sacred and Anointed instrument and we only use it outside of the church as a ministry tool to share the Gospel of Jesus.Grace & Peace [This message was edited by Del Ray Grace on 21 May 2005 at 08:52 PM.] |
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jim milewski Member From: stowe, vermont |
posted 22 May 2005 03:37 AM
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Farris, you make a good point, I once heard a good ole preacher say, "Satan owns the fence" |
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Joey Gaskins Member From: Newbern, North Carolina, USA |
posted 22 May 2005 05:09 AM
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An instrument of 10 strings is mentioned at least 3 times in the bible. Read Psalms 33-2. Steel is always welcomed in our church. |
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Ernie Pollock Member From: Mt Savage, Md USA |
posted 22 May 2005 05:45 AM
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Gee, seems like down at the Methodist Church is the only place I get to play anymore!! We have a little group that we use to raise money for folks in need, and we play for most of the church special days. The folks at my church just love the steel guitar and I just love playing it for them. I do play there once in awhile by myself with just my tracks - thats a bit nerve racking, but they seem to enjoy it a lot. I play quite a few instruments with tracks. If you have not tried it in your church, ask your Minister, bet they would love to have YOU play!! Ernie ------------------ |
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Winston Street Member From: Laurel, Mississippi, USA |
posted 22 May 2005 07:03 AM
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What did David say? "Make a joyful noise unto the Lord on an instrument of ten strings?". Or something like that.. I love playing in church, as one post says He doesn't want ability, He wants availabilty. I guarantee you, He'll improve your playing. Hope one day to see Him bringing sparks from his picks!!!!! Ever thought about that???? Wouldn't that be awsome..... The only ticket you need to that show is to accept Him as your Savior, the tickets are already bought and paid for. |
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Daryl Stogner Member From: Yuma, AZ (next to nowhere and north of been there) |
posted 22 May 2005 07:32 AM
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I've been playing in our church band for about 3 years now. Started out playing bass, but then have been working with a young guy that wanted to learn to play bass. Now he can play pretty well, so I will break out my ShoBud and play it too, well do my best to play it! Usually our Lutheran church is full of statues in the pews, but the contemporary services have been packed and people are coming alive. So much so they are adding another service at 1pm. We're splitting the band into two bands, as the work load is pretty demanding. Me, I could play in both bands and have a blast. We played old country hymns, contemporary Christian music. It's alot of fun playing the new rock like Christian songs. Many of them are way better than the country stuff they are releasing today...sounds even more country than country. Our Pastor does not like C&W music and I hear comments all of the time about that, but he knows what the congregation likes too, so we will let loose with some old stuff from time to time. This morning I open services with a song that we converted to a more gospel sound, it's a blast singing it. Then we go right into a more rock song that we changed from the original it will get them moving in the pews. It's such a hoot doing this, I look forward to it! Somethings up when people request us to play at their funerals! hahaha |
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Paul King Member From: Gainesville, Texas, USA |
posted 22 May 2005 08:50 AM
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I have for the better part of the last 26 years played in church. I was also blessed to travel with a Christian Country band and played many churches and concerts around this great country. That job was by far the most enjoyable job I ever had and the best music I have ever played with as far as a good quality band. This year I have cut way back and no longer play on a consistent basis. There have been many positive comments but I have found playing the steel in church has beeen like many other things in life. There comes a point when it is taken for granted and not appreciated. I remember several years ago as a young man no one would ask me to go with the youth when they went out of town to eat or go see other friends from other churches. When they got ready to sing and play I was the first one they called. Time has taken care of the ill feelings and friendships over the years are not the same as they were. In my local church now it is nice to sit and listen and worship without giving in music every service. There are some who miss the steel, including my wife who complains the music is not the same but also it is in her way here at the house. I personally feel like I have done my fair share and I am not obligated to play in church. Right now it just does not mean to me what it has in the past. Maybe with a fresh band the spark may be renewed. |
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Farris Currie Member From: Ona, Florida, USA |
posted 22 May 2005 09:00 AM
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Paul,been there,done that,spent 2 yrs.with the Harmonetts out of Dalton GA.man so many great services.finally burned out,i paid my own way,even to the hambugars i ate.they got the money,and it was out pleasure to go along.yep,some times things just don't seem quiet right.but i got the blessing huh. don't give up bro. keep looking to God. farris |
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Larry King Member From: Watts, Oklahoma, USA |
posted 22 May 2005 01:03 PM
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I'm encouraged at the responses to this thread. My belief is that if you have a 'gift', no matter how it is wrapped,it was given to you to bring honor to God...I'm reminded of Matt 25:25..the parable of the talents and the results of placing the talent in 'safe keeping'...it didn't work for him and it won't work for you..not always. I DO believe in time out and if that's where God has you right now, I'm cool with that. Darvin's work on the CLC praise and worship C D's was VERY complimentary to the songs and supported that project extremely well..yes folks, God does enjoy music and yes, he can make a better picker out of you..we call it "the anointing" and I've seen it/heard it happen to my hero JB several times..once at a funeral. Finally, let's not forget some scripture..the gifts and callings of God are without repentance....and to whom much is given, much is required. Remember this, God does not call the qualified, he qualifies the called. God bless. |
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Hal Higgins Member From: Denham Springs, LA |
posted 22 May 2005 01:15 PM
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Playing in church is a way of life for me. I now go out and do evangelism (now that I'm not pastoring) using my abilities as a steel-guitarist and vocalist to encourage and lift up the "body of Christ" in various denominations....I use tracks, some that I have made myself, and then some others that I have gathered through the years. I'm presently writing this response from Leesville, LA where I'm again ministering to a church family and friends here. I also play with the Chrisitan Country group called "Philadelpheia". Next week, (Memorial Day Weekend) we will be at Wyatt Drive Baptist Church in White Settlment, TX (close to Ft. Worth). Bro. Jack White is the pastor. We love doing this and spreading the message of the unconditional love of Our Father to a world who really needs to know and hear this. I also do some steel guitar shows in the southeast part of the country, and hope to do some in other parts of the country before too much longer. BTW Terry Sneed.....Philadelpheia is going to be in El Dorado, AR on the 9th and 10th of July, and as soon as I find out where, I'll post it.....would love to meet you and get to talk with you some.....and also see some of the folks I've known from there.......'til then keep playing and praying........HAL ------------------ |
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Jimmie Martin Member From: Ohio, USA |
posted 22 May 2005 02:29 PM
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i like your posts farris. you are so right. its either one side or the other. you guys keep playing and praying. thers a shout in steel |
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Darvin Willhoite Member From: Leander, Tx. USA |
posted 22 May 2005 05:16 PM
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Larry, thank you very much for the compliment. I have a great time playing with this group of great musicians and singers. I'll find you in Tulsa, and shake your hand. ------------------ |
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Kevin Mincke Member From: Farmington, MN (Twin Cities-South Metro) USA |
posted 22 May 2005 09:07 PM
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Thanks to Tony for starting this thread! I have read each post and can relate to most all of them. I currently play pedal steel/mandolin on our praise & worship band at www.bereanbaptist.com. Looking at the posts, I think any of us could sit in with another church's worship band/team and feel right at home! |
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KENNY KRUPNICK Member From: Grove City,Ohio |
posted 23 May 2005 10:31 AM
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I play at church,and with a group,"The Murphys",on the road on the weekends when booked locally,or semi-locally. |
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Tony Rankin Member From: Miamisburg, OH USA |
posted 23 May 2005 06:53 PM
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I play in a church somewhere nearly every weekend and have been doing so since 1998. I play for a local southern gospel quartet. The band also includes piano, bass, and rhythm guitar. It has been a wonderful experience for me in many ways. Tony Rankin |
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Tony Palmer Member From: Lincoln, RI USA |
posted 24 May 2005 07:50 AM
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OK...now I get it! When I read about all you guys that play in church, I just thought it was a solo performance, as in taking the place of the church organ. Now I know you play with full groups, or at least with accompaniament, so it takes on a whole new dimension....one that I see is very enthusiastically received. So what are some of the songs you play? |
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Larry King Member From: Watts, Oklahoma, USA |
posted 24 May 2005 08:25 AM
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Tony.....although I'm not a steel player, most of these responders are playing "back up" as opposed to solo work and it may be anything from traditional hymnal songs to praise and worship songs. Praise and Worship basically defines a contemporary style and typically consists more of what you would call a "chorus"...this material is not written with three verses and a bridge...and much of it is scripture based and some of it is taken from the book of Psalms. On the other hand, if you were going to learn a solo, most of these players will know "What A Friend We Have In Jesus", "Just A Closer Walk With Thee" , "It Is No Secret" etc. Then there's a song that Doug really shines on.."Majesty" If you're totally unfamiliar with these tunes, I'd suggest getting Gene Crain's Gospel C D...John Hughey has some great stuff out. The one C D that I'm expecting to challenge all players is the new Randy Beavers project. Just knowing his ability and also hearing him do "Jesu, Joy Of Man's Desire" (acapella thank God) tells me that there's some great material on it. If you need more info, email me . [This message was edited by Larry King on 24 May 2005 at 08:26 AM.] |
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Rick Garrett Member From: Tyler, Texas |
posted 24 May 2005 09:10 AM
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I play a little acoustic in a little church band now and I enjoy it a whole lot BUT, I'm looking forward to the point where I feel I'm good enough on steel to play in that little country church. I bet a steel will sound nearly alive in there. Someday soon I hope. Rick |
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Farris Currie Member From: Ona, Florida, USA |
posted 24 May 2005 09:20 AM
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Hardest thing for me to adapt to was the cords gospel music uses!!number one learn your fret board good!so much gospel music is played in B flat,E flat,Csharp,A flat ect.no different on steel,except takes some getting use tooooo. also learn your minors and where they are. farris |
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Terry Sneed Member From: El Dorado, Arkansas, USA |
posted 24 May 2005 11:13 AM
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Tony, our church is old fashion and we like the old church hymns like "Power In The Blood" "When We All Get To Heaven" etc. but we also play a few simi-contemporary chourses(sp) Thanks Hal. I'll be watchin for your post as to where ya'll will be playin. I want to be there to hear ya'll and meet and talk to you. Terry ------------------ [This message was edited by Terry Sneed on 24 May 2005 at 11:19 AM.] |
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Sam Lewis Member From: Conway, Arkansas, USA |
posted 24 May 2005 12:01 PM
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Terry, I just finished doing the music for 3 revivals in a row and I use my steel guitar in every one I do. God has blessed me far more than I have any right to expect. I played in clubs , etc., for a long time helping to put food on the table for my wife and children but that was long ago and I might add, never more. I always use the church musicians whenever I can but for the most part I use sound tracks for solos and steel - most of which I make myself. Let me add that reading this post,and the replies, has made my day. All I can add is Praise the Lord for steel guitars, and lead guitars, and pianos, and drums, and basses, and fiddles, and....... Sam |
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Mike Bowles Member From: Mullens, West Virginia, USA |
posted 28 May 2005 10:01 AM
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God has this special way of taking music and sending it where it needs to go and making it sound the way it needs to sound if you play to glorify God it will not sound bad God always knows what we need to hear |
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Terry Sneed Member From: El Dorado, Arkansas, USA |
posted 28 May 2005 01:08 PM
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Hey Sam. Glad to see another Arkie on here that plays God's music.I would love to use my tracks to play instrumentals at church, but our system don't accept CDs, just cassetts. There's been several times somebody has requested a steel instrumental, and I do my best with the musicians at church, but we never get to practice so I know it don't sound to good. But, playin from the heart is what counts. I also play for a Gospel Trio "From The Heart". We're not to far apart. I think Conway is about 150 miles from where I live. Are you goin to Ronnie's steel show the 10th and 11th of next month? I hope me and my wife can make it one night. If you can make it maybe we'll see you there. Terry ------------------ [This message was edited by Terry Sneed on 28 May 2005 at 01:14 PM.] |
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