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Jack Solomon Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA |
posted 21 August 2006 10:08 PM
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Smiley Roberts Member From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075 |
posted 21 August 2006 11:28 PM
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Well,the singer is Buck Owens,but I'll be damned if I know who the steeler is. I know it AIN'T Ralph Mooney,Jay McDonald,Tom Brumley,or Jerry Brightman. Since this looks like one of those old "hillbilly parks",& the time period being 1961,it could've been the "house band" steeler. Perhaps Buck had not formed the traveling "Buckaroos" yet. Who knows,maybe he was still travlling under the pseudonym,"Corky Jones".  ------------------ |
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Brett Anderson Member From: Arizona, USA |
posted 21 August 2006 11:55 PM
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It kinda looks like Johnny Paycheck. |
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Smiley Roberts Member From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075 |
posted 22 August 2006 12:10 AM
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Brett, I never thought of that but,yer right,it does kinda resemble J.P. I remember him always being a fair steeler. I did a short tour w/ him,back in the late 60's,& he always did wanna pick on my steel. How 'bout it Jack? Would dat be J.P.,a/k/a/ Donny Young? ------------------ |
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Herb Steiner Member From: Cedar Valley, Travis County TX |
posted 22 August 2006 02:33 AM
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I know one thing: That's an ElectroVoice 664 microphone Buck's singing into!  I had a couple, you could hammer a nail into the stage with one, then put it on the stand and sing through it. ------------------ |
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Jack Solomon Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA |
posted 22 August 2006 10:59 AM
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Smiles, I'm ashamed of you.Of all people I thought you would know. It is Donny Young, AKA Johnny Paycheck. |
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Jack Solomon Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA |
posted 22 August 2006 11:26 AM
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This pic was taken around the time Buck had no band. Donny and I and sometimes Jim Crawford worked the Ohio area pre Jones. Adams Bros.period. I have some other pics I'll post if I can, with Buck, Don Rich, D young, J crawford and myself at Frontier Ranch. |
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Gary Steele Member From: Orient, Ohio, USA |
posted 22 August 2006 11:29 AM
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Jack, I havent seen you for a long time. Good to see your name. Gary Steele. Columbus Ohio. |
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Bob Blair Member From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada |
posted 22 August 2006 11:39 AM
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That picture is a real treasure! Thanks for sharing it. |
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Joe Casey Member From: Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9) |
posted 22 August 2006 11:45 AM
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I think its pete Duhart and the place is Mountain park in Holyoke Mass ------------------ |
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Jack Solomon Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA |
posted 22 August 2006 01:11 PM
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Thanks Gary, It has been a while. |
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Jack Solomon Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA |
posted 22 August 2006 01:13 PM
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Joe, It is Donny Young J. Patcheck somewhere in Indiana |
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Al Marcus Member From: Cedar Springs,MI USA |
posted 22 August 2006 01:32 PM
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I believe that our Jerry Hendrix was playing with Buck Owens in Bakersfield around that time. He is Still at it, playing very fine steel guitar...al  ------------------ |
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Randy Mason Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA |
posted 22 August 2006 01:47 PM
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That fooled me too. I thought it was Fuzzy Owen. He played steel in tose days. |
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Jon Light Member From: Brooklyn, NY |
posted 22 August 2006 01:49 PM
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quote: Please do! Great stuff! Thanks for posting it. |
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Al Udeen Member From: maple grove mn usa |
posted 22 August 2006 03:03 PM
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No one mentioned the steel he was playing? sure looks like a Fender 400 I worked some shows with Buck in 1960 when I was living in Tucson Az. I was playing my 1957 Sho-Bud at the time, Donny Young borrowed my guitar in 1958 when he played the the Flame Cafe in Minneapolis with George Jones! Al Udeen |
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Jack Solomon Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA |
posted 22 August 2006 07:58 PM
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 Here is Donny Buck Don and Jim Crawford after a show we played at Frontier Ranch Aug. 61. I took the pic so I'm not in it. |
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Steve Hinson Member From: Hendersonville Tn USA |
posted 22 August 2006 08:02 PM
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Great Donny Young pictures,Jack...hey to Miss Melba... ------------------ |
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Jack Solomon Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA |
posted 22 August 2006 08:09 PM
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 Here is Buck and I. I guess you could call |
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Jack Solomon Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA |
posted 22 August 2006 08:30 PM
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Thanks Steve, Melba says Hi back.She's even wavin' her hand. |
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Joe Casey Member From: Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9) |
posted 22 August 2006 08:46 PM
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I stand corrected I guess the year also would have made me wrong. ------------------ |
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Steve Hinson Member From: Hendersonville Tn USA |
posted 22 August 2006 09:24 PM
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I'm wavin'my hand too...last time I saw her I asked her about"They Bought the House Next Door"...was that Hal Rugg? ------------------ |
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Tommy M Member From: Indiana |
posted 23 August 2006 05:26 AM
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I'm not sure, but the stage in Jack's first picture looks like one I recall that was located in Anderson, Indiana....Mockingbird Hill,..Park...something. Great pics! Tommy Minniear |
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Cody Campbell Member From: Kentucky, USA |
posted 23 August 2006 08:10 AM
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Steve H., Listening to the last part of that steel intro, I'd swear it was Lloyd. I'm interested to know if I thought wrong. |
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Steve Hinson Member From: Hendersonville Tn USA |
posted 23 August 2006 08:20 AM
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Cody-do you have that record?I have a REALLY bad mp3 of it...the record must have been in terrible condition!I'd sure love to have a good clean mp3 of it...I asked Melba who it was...she told me she had"Buddy on some things,Hal on some things..."it is DEFINITELY a Sho~Bud,and features the'broken-glass tone' that I love so much from that era...Lloyd could get that tone too,though...maybe he'll see this and enlighten us...regardless of who played steel,I believe that is about the most high-powered girl-singing I have ever heard!What label was that record on anyway? ------------------ [This message was edited by Steve Hinson on 23 August 2006 at 08:22 AM.] [This message was edited by Steve Hinson on 23 August 2006 at 08:26 AM.] |
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Henning Antonsen Member From: Langmyrv. 9, 2335 Stange, Norway |
posted 23 August 2006 08:39 AM
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Steve, please check your e-mail. ------------------ |
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Steve Hinson Member From: Hendersonville Tn USA |
posted 23 August 2006 08:47 AM
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Henning-I didn't get your e-mail...did you try stevehinson@comcast.net?Thanks-Steve ------------------ |
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Steve Hinson Member From: Hendersonville Tn USA |
posted 23 August 2006 10:43 AM
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Cody-Henning says he thinks it was Hal,too...whoever it was,it's one of my favorite records... ------------------ |
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Jack Solomon Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA |
posted 23 August 2006 12:45 PM
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Tommy M, You are right it was at mockingbird hill. My memory failed me. Thanks for refreshing it |
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Jack Solomon Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA |
posted 23 August 2006 12:49 PM
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Cody, Melba can't remember so I'll try and dig it out if she still has a copy.She thinks it was on UA records. I know it wasn't Loyd cause he didn't play on her stuff til 68 or later. |
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Cody Campbell Member From: Kentucky, USA |
posted 23 August 2006 02:34 PM
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Jack... I guess I was wrong then. (But I'd a sworn those licks at the end of the intro were 'signature Lloyd'). Steve... I have a pretty good mp3 of the the song, on my iTunes. The thing is I'm not on my home computer today, and can't put it up right now. I'll be sure to add a link here tomorrow afternoon. . Speaking of Johnny (Donny)... There a recent release on Koch records of Paycheck's early hits. The title is something like: JOHNNY PAYCHECK: "BEGINNINGS", The little darlin sounds of johnny paycheck. Record producer Aubrey Mayhew writes an insane account of how he 'discovered' Paycheck during a fan fair week in the early 60's. It's a great CD. But the steel tone is just bizzare! The most toppy I've ever heard. But great playing for sure, and great songs. (Pick it up if you haven't yet). [This message was edited by Cody Campbell on 23 August 2006 at 02:40 PM.] |
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Jack Solomon Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA |
posted 23 August 2006 02:58 PM
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Cody, Aubrey was insane. There was no fanfare in early 60's. it was DJ week aka Opry celebration then CMA. Some of those Early cuts of JP had Sonny Curtiss and the Jones boys. Pre my becoming Jones boy |
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Cody Campbell Member From: Kentucky, USA |
posted 23 August 2006 04:51 PM
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Oh yeah, you're right, Jack. It was the DJ convention. That is what I meant to say. According to what I've heard, it was a young Lloyd on the early Paycheck recordings. . Speaking of Paycheck with the Jones boys. Didn't he sing harmony on several of George Jones' songs. (Like the "The Love Bug"?) Since I've heard the early paycheck stuff now, I've gone back and heard 'love bug' again, and it sounds just like him on harmony vocals. Anyone happen to know which of those old songs (if any) that had JP on harmony? [This message was edited by Cody Campbell on 23 August 2006 at 04:54 PM.] |
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Jack Solomon Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA |
posted 23 August 2006 06:54 PM
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JP sang harmony on a lot Jones's songs til Don Adams came along, Then Don sang on about everything after that even when he wasn't working for him. After the Billy Sherril era I'm not so sure. I only recorded on two albums with George in 67 and Don was brought in for the sessions. George Riddle did some early stuff,but you can pretty well tell his stuff.DA had a super smooth voice and you can distinguish him as well. JP might be on The Race is on and You comb Her Hair and some others. I'll have to listen and research.He sang on quite a few |
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Cody Campbell Member From: Kentucky, USA |
posted 24 August 2006 03:11 PM
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Here is a decent copy of "They bought the house next door". It might take a few minutes to load. |
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Mike Wheeler Member From: Columbus, Ohio, USA |
posted 24 August 2006 05:42 PM
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Jack, I'd love to see those Frontier Ranch pics if you find them. I knew the place really well since my Dad, Tex Wheeler, used to MC a lot of the shows back then. I got to meet and pick steel on-stage with some of the greats back then. Special memories, for sure. (the backstage were pretty wild) |
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Roger Edgington Member From: San Antonio, Texas USA |
posted 24 August 2006 06:00 PM
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Jack,Mike, I would also like to see some of those Frontier Ranch pictures. I started playing bass there when Crawford was playing steel and switched to steel after he left. Mike,I remember your dad very well. He was a good man and a good friend. I bought my Fender 1000 out there from Gene Hoover, lead guitarist for Howdy Kemp. Roger |
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Jack Solomon Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA |
posted 24 August 2006 06:51 PM
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 Roger, Mike Pic#1 Me Donny Young Gary Adams #2Donny Don Rich # 3 D Rich Buck #4 D Young Buck D Rich and me in background playing Les paul. PS I rememember Tex very. Is he still with us? |
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Jack Solomon Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA |
posted 24 August 2006 07:06 PM
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Here are some more for you guys.You can pick out the people for yourselves |
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Jack Solomon Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA |
posted 24 August 2006 07:55 PM
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 Here are some more. I hope tese are ok. The last one I did photobucket sent the wrong one. I tested so I hope this one is OK.You can figure who they are. If you need help I'll help |
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