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Author | Topic: Sugarland Steel? |
Stu Schulman Member From: anchorage,alaska |
![]() Sugarland is playing in Anchorage Mon.night...do they have a steel guitar player? |
Gaylon Mathews Member From: Jasper, Georgia |
![]() nope ------------------ Gretchen Wilson |
Stu Schulman Member From: anchorage,alaska |
![]() Gaylon,Thanks for the info...That figures I finaly get to go to a concert and just my luck no steel guitar! |
Michael Breid Member From: Eureka Springs, Arkansas, USA |
![]() Probably a steel guitar would make them sound tooooooo country, and Lord, knows we can't have that!!! |
Eric West Member From: Portland, Oregon, USA |
![]() Yeah, and maybe a steel player that used one of those exotic tuning systems would make their singing sound in tune.... EJL [This message was edited by Eric West on 15 October 2006 at 08:47 PM.] |
Stu Schulman Member From: anchorage,alaska |
![]() Hey guys thanks for all of your help,The reason that I asked was because I heard one of their songs at my gig last night and there was some steel on it.A friend of mine runs the sound system and is sneaking me in. |
Eric West Member From: Portland, Oregon, USA |
![]() Well Stu, let us know if you feel you were overcharged.. EJL |
Barry Blackwood Member From: elk grove, CA |
![]() Do they deserve a steel? |
Brett Day Member From: Greer, SC, USA |
![]() Mark Van Allen used to be Sugarland's steel player before their first record came out, but now they don't have steel in the band. Brett, Emmons S-10, Morrell lapsteel, GFI Ultra D-10-aka "Redgold Beauty" |
Jerry Roller Member From: Van Buren, Arkansas USA |
![]() I saw and heard a video of them and and asked my wife if the words in the song were actually what I thought I heard and she said they were. There is no place in country or any kind of music for such crude words. Just my opinion of course. I am certainly not a fan of Sugarland for that reason. Jerry |
chris ivey Member From: sacramento, ca. usa |
![]() i don't enjoy male or female voices that sound contrived......one song she sings in a video irritates me. |
Stu Schulman Member From: anchorage,alaska |
![]() Eric:You're Killin' me! I will give you an honest report after the show...Maybe I'll get my no money back.I saw them on T.V. a while ago with Jon BonJovi and the girl from Sugarland was discussing the way that they pounced their words differently,maybe a few months in the South Bronx would help? |
Jerry Hayes Member From: Virginia Beach, Va. |
![]() Sugarland use to have a heavy set girl playing an acoustic guitar but she's not on their latest video. What happened to her?..........JH in Va. ------------------ |
Bo Borland Member From: Cowtown NJ |
![]() I think "creative differences" would probably cover the disappearance of the female guitar player. If I was the "guy" in Sugarland, I would be writing as many songs as I could. My prediction is Jennifer Nettles is a solo act before spring. There is no doubt the girl has serious vocal chops and can flat out sing, but there is nothing else in the band that can't be replaced by a couple of good pickers. The only thing I don't like about Sugarland is that the producers obviously have her over-do the southern accent. Not that that's a bad thang... |
Barry Blackwood Member From: elk grove, CA |
![]() Jerry, her girdle broke and that let her out! |
T. C. Furlong Member From: Vernon Hills, Illinois, USA |
![]() I had the pleasure of working with Sugarland in my audio engineer/designer gig. I mixed them for a TV show and they were really good. No steel player for the show but they did have session ace Rob Hajacos on fiddle. Interesting side note about the guy in the group. His name is Christian Bush and we have all consumed his family's famous products. The story I heard is that he took his share of some family money and invested in his group Sugarland. And that's the real beans on the band. |
Eric West Member From: Portland, Oregon, USA |
![]() Yeah I've probably consumed more than my share... EJL [This message was edited by Eric West on 16 October 2006 at 06:48 PM.] |
David Cobb Member From: Chanute, Kansas, USA |
![]() Last night I believe I heard the same song that Jerry refers to in what appeared to be a live concert video, courtesy of GAC. It had some very tasty steel and I too am curious who the player was. |
Larry Bell Member From: Englewood, Florida |
![]() Probably Dan Dugmore. ------------------ |
Mark van Allen Member From: loganville, Ga. USA |
![]() I love the rumor mill... For those interested, a couple of background notes on Sugarland:
Indeed, things are rarely what they seem. I've spent many years around people who live and breathe country music, and would crawl through broken glass for an inside shot in Nashville, and it's amazing to watch a group of "indie rockers" decide to "go country", and ... pull it off. It was great music for a steel player, and I think it's a shame they're not using one. |
Stu Schulman Member From: anchorage,alaska |
![]() Well I went to the concert and was blown away,Not what I was expecting.I wouldn't call it a country band?To me they sounded like Tom Petty's band with great backround vocals and country overtones .The girl singer "Jennifer"din't miss a lick,and her pitch was dead on.The keyboard player played some great B-3 stuff..Booker T style.Jennifer's southern accent was very strong...but she also talks that way,and as a former New Yawker I have no room to talk about thick accents.What I saw tonight was a group of players who seem to love what they do for a living. |
Bill Hatcher Member From: Atlanta Ga. USA |
![]() MVA. Is Scott Patton still with the band?? |
Steve Howard Member From: High Ridge, Missouri, USA |
![]() Mark, that is great stuff. So Clay Cook originally worked with John Mayer? Was he ever credited with any of the music? John is one of my all time favorites so I would be curious to know. As far as the rubbish about "questionable lyrics". Come on guys. You really think they would put a song on conservetive country radio stations if they really thought the line "you'll remember what your knees are for" was talking about something sexually explicit? The whole context of that verse was about praying and keeping your faith when you are down. Your knees are for praying. I saw them live as well. To pay an incredibly talented vocalist like Jennifer, a great songwriter, and a goofy guy equal shares, you have to slack off with the band I guess. I wish they carried a steel player too. Dan did some tasteful stuff on their first album |
Jerry Roller Member From: Van Buren, Arkansas USA |
![]() Come on Steve, the lyrics I was referring to had nothing to do with knees or praying. They were crude enough that I choose not to put them in print. Check out the song about "Going to Mississippi And Up To No Good" and if I am hearing it wrong I would love to know. I can't think of many female singers who would sing that in public. Jerry |
chris ivey Member From: sacramento, ca. usa |
![]() thnx mark...once again, my intuitive gut instincts ring true. |
Steve Howard Member From: High Ridge, Missouri, USA |
![]() Jerry, sorry for confusing your reference. That is the only one I hear people talking about as possibly being questionable. As far as Down in Mississippi, it is refering to going to the casinos for a night out with her girlfriends to get away from there husbands/boyfriends whatever. Am I shockingly too immune to the immoralties of life? |
Jerry Roller Member From: Van Buren, Arkansas USA |
![]() "Other Than That", I find nothing offensive either, just "that". We play an Oprey show every Saturday night and I promise you most of our audience would be shocked and not pleased if someone sang a song with those lyrics in it. Some folks might like that stuff but I would never buy it and don't care to listen to it. Jerry |
Steve Howard Member From: High Ridge, Missouri, USA |
![]() gotcha. I don't endorse it, but compared to other forms of secular music, country has always been pretty PG rated. That wouldn't even be on the radar screen as offensive in the Hip Hop world. Still doesn't mean it is right. [This message was edited by Steve Howard on 17 October 2006 at 12:15 PM.] |
Wayne Carver Member From: Martinez, Georgia, USA |
![]() Jennifer Nettles is from my hometown of Douglas, Georgia and that's the way they talk down there. It's about four hours from Atlanta and nothing like Atlanta. I think she sings very good, reminds me of Allison Moorer. I don't think either of those two are country though. I remember a lot of reviews on Amazon about her fake accent. Even real country singers like Sara Evans turn pop once they reach Nashville. |
Larry Bell Member From: Englewood, Florida |
![]() Funny what happens when someone sees a check with 7 digits, eh? You dance with the one that bought you that $12M house and your Jag. ------------------ |
Tommy R. Butler Member From: Nashville TN. |
![]() Guy named Sasha from Bering Straits was playing some dates with them. |
Steve Howard Member From: High Ridge, Missouri, USA |
![]() wow, I thought they fell off the face of the earth. Good he is still playing. They had a good group of musicians and I liked the sound of their first album, but I don't think any of them could write their own stuff very well and they got ate up by the Nashville pop-machine not being able to produce any real winning songs for those guys. Sasha is a descent player. But Bearing Strait's old guitar player Ilya was incredible lead player and banjo picker. |
Marlin Smoot Member From: Atlanta,Georgia, USA |
![]() Mark Van Allen is one of the good guys in our industry and loved his inside comments. I don't know...maybe the less "country" the act is or sounds...the better their chances are at getting signed out of Nashville? What comes around goes round meaning; Traditional Country Music will come back around again and seem all fresh and new. No one knows when that day will come. Kinda like when Country Music got real sappy then Ricky Skaggs, Clint Black, George Strait, Rand Travis and some others helped make it good again. I just hope its in my lifetime. |
Tommy R. Butler Member From: Nashville TN. |
![]() Mark the lead player is in a band with a buddy of mine. The artist is from Va. He has a deal. The bass player is playing also with a label act. Not sure about anyone else. Sasha was doing some dates with Pam Tillis and a few shows at the Wild Horse Saloon w someone. Thats all I know ... Sasha is supposed to be getting married. Guys daughter is a friend of mine. Later Tommy |
John McClung Member From: Los Angeles, CA, USA |
![]() Barely on topic: the fiddler mentioned way up in this thread, Rob Hajacos...how the heck is his last name prounounced? I like his style, you can always tell it's him with that pronounced vibrato. Doesn't seem like I hear him on all the hits like I used to. Oh, right, L.A. doesn't have a country station anymore, I forgot! And now for the KZLA tangent... :/ ------------------ |
Mike Bagwell Member From: Greenville, SC, USA |
![]() John, I've heard it pronounced, hay-jake-us. Mike |
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