It's almost as if this tuning was invented for this particular tune.

That is a great tune,,,one of the very first
I learned from my teacher years ago,,,,I think that tune really hooked me on the steel. There are many versions of this as you well know,,,Noel Boggs did it,,but more in a full chord modern feel,,I think this should be played in a more "dreamy style" as Byrd would do it or some Hawaiian oriented
player,,,there are many others ,,My Tane, Song of Old Hawaii,,I love them all. They bring back memories of a time gone by...

I do it but havent tried it for years,,,I used E 6th on almost everything I did back then,,,George thanks for the great hawaiin links you sent,,,Iam enjoying them and listening and thinking of you,,,many thanks
Jody PS had to edit for spelling,,,it's as bad as my playing....

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 14 July 2001 at 01:20 PM.]

Thanks for the suggestion of E6th for a more versatile tuning accommodating the "Paradise Isle" arrangement.

Please let me know:
Do you use a plain string in the G# position on the E6th tuning.

No, I did not suppose that Jerry was the composer of "Paradise Isle". I just like his recording because the organ on that cut is so complimentary to that Hawaiian tune.

Does anyone know if there are lyrics to the tune; if so, who recorded it with vocal?

Thanks, Rick

[This message was edited by Rick Collins on 15 July 2001 at 08:59 AM.]

"Paradise Isle 'neath a tropical moon,
Palm trees sway while lover's swoon.
Come with me to my land of dreams,
My own, my Paradise Isle"

(The above may not be quite accurate, but pretty close)

P.S. Rick...just call me "Keoki" and leave off the "Mr."...ok? Oh, Who sang it ?
I know for sure it was recorded by the legendary Alfred Apaka....plus many others.

[This message was edited by George Keoki Lake on 15 July 2001 at 09:54 AM.]

I'm now about to restring for the E6th tuning, because it will give me more versatility, along with the C6th on the other neck.

This is valuable information and I know reliable, coming from a well experienced source,___again many thanks.

"Drowsy Waters" is another one of my favorites. It's on Jerry's "Hawaiian Beach Party" collection. I play it on the C6th; but it sounds, on the recording, like Jerry might play it on one of the E tunings.

I have an eight-string bakelite (post war) Rick; but for my style of playing, I like my Fender Dual Professional 8-string better.

Rick

[This message was edited by Rick Collins on 16 July 2001 at 04:18 PM.]

Later when I got my double 8 non pedal, back about 1939, I put E6 on the the bottom neck and E7-9 on the top neck. E was always the high note on both necks.

On the bottom neck E6, we still got the C#minor on 1-2-4 string.The slant was a little more stretch but it worked.

On the top neck we had Emaj, E7th, E9th, Bminor6 and Bdim all open tuned. The 2nd string was a D, but to get the 13th, I just dropped that D to a C# for some songs. Changed the whole sound of the tuning.

Jody---- we are beginning to show our age- We both used a lot of E6th way back when...

top neck
E
Dor C#
B
G#
F#
D
B
G#
bottom neck
E
C#
B
G#
E
C#
B
G#

later on players were putting a A on the 7th string and F# or E on the 8th string. Almost like the C6 of today without the top 2 strings.

One good thing about E6 is you play a lot on the lower frets. I hardly ever went past the 15th fret. The tone was better down there. Those were the days-----al

[This message was edited by Al Marcus on 18 July 2001 at 10:02 PM.]

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[This message was edited by Andy Volk on 20 July 2001 at 03:26 PM.]

Maybe Warner Baxter was the "guy singin the lead,,,,bak up group was comprised of Peter Lorre, James Cagney, Humphrey Bogart,,and the leader and steel player was Sidney Greenstreet,,,,,,correct me if im wrong,,,forgot ,,it was Boris Karloff on Bass
and Bela Lugosi on Ukelele....what a group..

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 23 July 2001 at 07:40 AM.]

And everyone knows Sidney Greenstreet played violin from the time he was 39. I don't think the steel guitar was invented yet when he came on the scene. But I do recall Peter Lorre. He had a record about a witch where they put the mike in the toilet and flushed it. It used his cackling laugh all the way thru the recording. What a witch he must have been !!

BTW....I'm told that James Cagney used to record under another name like Hank Wms and Luke the Drifter did. They may have even got the idea from Cagney. The alias he used was Jimmy Dorsey !! Paul

[This message was edited by Paul Graupp on 23 July 2001 at 10:08 AM.]

My early love of Hawaiian sounds came off my father's zither. I found the chimes first and then the slide, with a flashlight battery. And here I am, 56 years later listening to Jody playing beautiful chime passages on The Third Man Theme; originally played on a zither. What can I say. I'm lost for words; the music is so pretty !!
I'm a kid again back on the green hills of eastern Pennsylvania. He is such a sentimental old friend !

Regards, Paul

[This message was edited by Paul Graupp on 24 July 2001 at 08:57 AM.]

Appreciate your nice comments,,,Paul I hould be 1/10th as good as the fellow who played with Jimmy Bryant,,,he was great. Now I have 3 people on this Forum who liked what I did back then,,,the two of you and David Van Allen who resurected(spell right?) that old
long deleted LP,,,,Thanks anway....but I am far from being in a class as Jimmy Bryants
partner...Im more like a Bela Lugosi type..I have to get get into my "tweed Fender case" by sunup.....Thanks anyway,,,,

[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 24 July 2001 at 11:02 AM.]

And I have heard him do string clicks here and there but never whole extended passages and on top of that, in harmony too. What is the word they use when violin players pluck the strings instead of bowing them ? Pitzicado (sp??). That is what you were doing and I don't know of anyone else who does that.

I think the whole Forum knows I'm a Jerry Byrd Fan. But your version of Limehouse Blues brought out the goose bumps and gave me an entire new outlook on the song.

And the other guy never used the tone control as well as you. Did you have a Fender foot volume/tone pedal ? Even if you did, I don't see how you could do it so fast.

Nawwwww Jody Carver..... You Da Man !!

Regards, Paul

[This message was edited by Paul Graupp on 24 July 2001 at 11:57 AM.]

I have made tapes for you and you will hear the machine gun again,,,not as rapid fire as it was then,,,but pretty close..

Thank you as well George I appreciate your compliments,,I dont get many these days.

I'm trying to develope my own style of playing,___Jerry Byrd touch with a higher staccato sound. It's a long road ahead, I know, and I probably will not get there; but I'm enjoying the ride.

I think however it was Edward G.Robinson that played uke on the original sound track of Moon Of Manakoora.
His big cigar caused many problems as the cigar smoke got into Treachers eyes,,,and then they wrote" Smoke gets In Your Eyes"

Arthur quit the steel ,,,went to work with Merv Griffin and then opened all those Fish and Chips "franchises" is that what you wanted to know??? Thought I would fill you in.