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Ed Naylor
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From: portsmouth.ohio usa

posted 13 December 2003 09:05 AM     profile   send email     edit
Of all the years of non-pedal Steel production there were many different "Styles" Shapes" etc. used.Some were Wood- Some painted and some "Mother of Toilet Seat"Which would win the " Style-Appearance" award. ????? Ed Naylor Steel Guitar Works
Ray Montee
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From: Portland, OR, USA

posted 13 December 2003 09:20 AM     profile   send email     edit
WEll Ed, altho' I had wanted a beautiful Gibson dbl neck console......when I first saw that little dark brown, high gloss, triple-8 Fender, I was captured! I've always felt that little guitar had everything right; right size, right proportion; right lay-out; everything that appeals to the eye........it was there.
When I look at many of the early lap steel designs, aside from the Rick Bakelite models,
I find them to be "dinky" or "cheapie" looking by comparison. Just a personal thing
Russ Young
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From: Seattle, Washington, USA

posted 13 December 2003 09:29 AM     profile   send email     edit
In terms of appearance alone, I think the National New Yorker and the Gibson Ultratone are the most eye-catching designs that ever made it into production.

But my all-around favorite is still a "Panda" -- a Rick Model B with white plates. I considered buying one years ago solely for its aesthetic appeal ... but wouldn't let myself have one until I learned to play it.

Travis Bernhardt
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From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

posted 13 December 2003 10:16 AM     profile   send email     edit
Sunburst EH-150 (I THINK that's the right model number...).

-Travis

C Dixon
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From: Duluth, GA USA

posted 13 December 2003 01:15 PM     profile   send email     edit
Toss between the pre-war Rick Bakelite and the 40's National New Yorker.

If I had to choose between the two, it would be the NNY.

carl

CrowBear Schmitt
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From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France

posted 13 December 2003 02:02 PM     profile   send email     edit
that D7/8 EH150 that HowardR posted here http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum2/HTML/004241.html
Chuck Fisher
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From: Santa Cruz, California, USA

posted 13 December 2003 02:56 PM     profile   send email     edit
ditto on Howard's dual-neck eh-150

I always thought these were nice, I'm not a MOTS guy but...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2366123213&category=2384

Ricky Davis
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posted 13 December 2003 03:00 PM     profile   send email     edit

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HowardR
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posted 13 December 2003 04:36 PM     profile   send email     edit
quote:
but wouldn't let myself have one until I learned to play it.

That never stopped me...

Russ Young
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From: Seattle, Washington, USA

posted 13 December 2003 05:20 PM     profile   send email     edit
Oh, did you think I've let myself buy one yet?
Rick Aiello
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posted 13 December 2003 07:16 PM     profile   send email     edit
Ricky Silver Hawaiian

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Brad Bechtel
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posted 13 December 2003 08:09 PM     profile   send email     edit
Assuming we're talking electric lap steel, I think Joseph Yanuziello is making some of the most beautiful instruments being made today.
This is sort of like asking "who's the most beautiful woman" - everyone has their own opinion, and only mine is the right one!

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Loni Specter
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From: West Hills, CA, USA

posted 13 December 2003 10:42 PM     profile   send email     edit
New Yorker! (I was born in The Bronx)
Steinar Gregertsen
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posted 14 December 2003 04:00 AM     profile     edit
I'll throw in a penny or two for the George Boards 8-strings. There's a Koa model on eBay right now that is threatening to make this a very special Christmas.........

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Andy Volk
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From: Boston, MA

posted 14 December 2003 04:19 AM     profile   send email     edit
This is dodging the question but IMHO nothing in the steel realm is as beautiful as some of Jimmy D'Aqusto's last guitars ...
http://www.seriousacoustics.com/daquisto-2.html

... and some of the blue guitars that Scott Chinnery commissioned.
http://www.seriousacoustics.com/monteleone-4.html

I'd love to see that translucent blue/green finish on an EH-150.

HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 14 December 2003 07:20 AM     profile   send email     edit
I don't have an opinion of best, but I feel that these three were innovative with regard to visual appeal, as far as vintage goes.

Ah, the 50s....modern times. I think I have a vaccuum cleaner somewhere that looks like one of these.

My vote for MOT guitars goes to the Iolana as shown in one of the above posts.

[This message was edited by HowardR on 14 December 2003 at 07:28 AM.]

Andy Volk
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From: Boston, MA

posted 14 December 2003 07:31 AM     profile   send email     edit
My grandmother had a stove that looked a lot like that National, Howard. Preheat to 250 then play Hula Blues, basting every 30 minutes.
Russ Young
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From: Seattle, Washington, USA

posted 14 December 2003 07:42 AM     profile   send email     edit
The Chinery Collection? Big deal ... we get to see examples from the Reinlieb Repository!

I thought of mentioning the National Dynamic, but the Airline Deluxe Pro makes it look pretty bland.

HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 14 December 2003 08:10 AM     profile   send email     edit
Russ, you're getting to be quite the maven on these vintage babies. It's all great info.

Andy, the "Rocket" seems to me, to be Flash Gordon inspired. I can't help thinking about Emperor Ming whenever I look at it. I really like the fact that these steels were based on a theme, even if loosely based.

As far as the bottom line goes, the Ultra Tone looks better than it sounds, the New Yorker (it has 2 pups w blend control) is one fine sounding steel, and the Rocket really wails when cranked & overdriven...great for blues/rock.

Oh, and Russ, it's a good thing my last name doesn't begin with an "S". That would be a real bummer...

[This message was edited by HowardR on 14 December 2003 at 08:17 AM.]

Russ Young
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From: Seattle, Washington, USA

posted 14 December 2003 08:23 AM     profile   send email     edit
Howard, I just knew you couldn't pass up "repository."

Rimshot!

John Bushouse
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posted 14 December 2003 09:56 AM     profile   send email     edit
I'm a sucker for the guitar I just bought:

But I think that the most beautiful is the Gibson EH series. Guitar Player put out a couple of magazines back in 1993-1994 that had gorgeous shots of vintage instruments. They had a series of EH-150s, including a rare 10-string.

The shape, plus those beautiful maple sunburst tops, are the bees knees.

David L. Donald
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From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand

posted 14 December 2003 10:25 AM     profile   send email     edit
Ricky's sure looks sweet, but I think the National New Yorker has that wonderfull art deco look.
And those in the trio above are real sweet too.
I want all three!
HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 14 December 2003 11:06 AM     profile   send email     edit
John, in another thread, you stated that the groove in the nut for the 7th string, was for a lighter guage string.

I have the same 7 string NYKR as you, and yes, the nut is set up the same way. I will read your other thread and continue there.

I don't want Ed to think we're hijacking him....

And John, good thing you don't fish for bass....

[This message was edited by HowardR on 14 December 2003 at 11:28 AM.]

Ed Naylor
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From: portsmouth.ohio usa

posted 14 December 2003 12:36 PM     profile   send email     edit
I have 75-100 Steels in my collection and some are really neat and a few are "Ugly" My first real steel was a Regal I got in 1948. I still have it. I have a 7 st Ricky I have had over 50 years and used while in Italy in the Army doing SPECIAL SERVICE shows at various places.My point is -would people buy because of looks or "Sound" ????? Ed
Chris Scruggs
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From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA

posted 14 December 2003 11:34 PM     profile   send email     edit
1.A triple or four neck Fender Stringmaster, but an EARLY long scale one, with the lolly-pop tuners and chrome pickup covers(preferably blond).

I saw a great picture of of Johnny Cash standing next to Bob Foster's early model blond triple Stringmaster at the Opry last week. Man, those are good lookin' guitars! But I think the long scale makes the double neck look to long and thin, so that's why I'm saying only the triple's and four's.

Asthetically(and that's what this thread is all about) I don't really care for the later, black pickup covers, or the oval shaped Kluson tuners.

2.A Fender Dual Professional or Custom. Preferably a blond double and a walnut triple(don't ask me why, just my preferance). For some reason, the Deluxe from that era is a little awkward looking to me. I like it, but it just doesn't grab my eye like it's double and triple necked cousins.

3.A six string Rickenbacker with chrome covers. Now, I would rather PLAY a seven string, but visually, the six looks more balanced.

4.A late fifties/early sixties Fender Champ. I don't care for the sound of these student models, but they look so cool. I think the asthetics of this guitar are responsible for it's recent price inflation. Three years ago I saw them everywhere for $300.00. Now everybody wants $600.00 for them .

I also like Bigsby's and Gibsons, but the exotic woods always look a little too fancy for my taste(But I do really like my friend's 1948 Gibson BR-4).

But it's really about the sound(well, on a record, anyways ),

Chris Scruggs


Michael Johnstone
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From: Sylmar,Ca. USA

posted 15 December 2003 12:26 AM     profile   send email     edit
The art deco stuff is fascinating and I do have a 60s 22" 8-string black & white Supro Comet on 3 legs which looks and sounds lovely - especially for Hawaiian stuff.
But I think Stringmasters get the nod for me and not just because I play a nicely yellowed near mint 1965 24" D-8 w/the creamiest tone you ever heard. They have just the right combination of style and function and their 50s modern design reminds me of surfboards,Stratocasters and 55 Chevys.They look great from any angle and nothing else has that stringy,hollow twang.Having said that,I'd also say my 51 Ricky 8-string G-Deluxe looks and sounds equally fine in it's own way. -MJ-
CrowBear Schmitt
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From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France

posted 15 December 2003 07:53 AM     profile   send email     edit
did'nt Chas Smith have a D8 Bigsby ?
he posted a pic here a couple of years ago
that was a beautyfull baby
Rick Collins
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From: Claremont , CA USA

posted 15 December 2003 09:21 PM     profile   send email     edit
As for asthetics, Chris Scruggs seems to have the most "polished" taste. I own a triple long-scale blonde Stringmaster (original, B+ to A-), a blonde Fender Dual-Eight Professional (restored), and a bakelite Rickenbacher eight string with chrome plates (like new).

I also own the "best looking" pedal steel guitar ever made, a nine pedal blonde Fender 1000 with the polished almag frame. It is restored,___simply better than new.

Jody Carver
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From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed. Dodger Blue Forever

posted 15 December 2003 09:43 PM     profile     edit
Howard
Do you have Roy Smecks guitar in your collection?
HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 16 December 2003 02:07 PM     profile   send email     edit
I wish I did Jody. The higher end Roy Smeck models were white Gibsons with matching amps.

He lived only 10 blocks from me and I remember seeing his ads in The Village Voice for lessons back in the 80s.

I was only into bluegrass dobro then.

Shoulda, woulda, coulda.....

Chuck Fisher
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From: Santa Cruz, California, USA

posted 16 December 2003 09:47 PM     profile   send email     edit
Well, not hearing from Bill Leff, I gotta chime in, the Asher Ben Harper guitar is a very very impressive piece, the workmanship is impeccable, its understated. And sounds awesome.

Asthetically a real impressive (limited)production lap steel, maybe Mr Bill will share a pic with us.

Jeff Au Hoy
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From: Honolulu, Hawai'i

posted 17 December 2003 05:19 AM     profile   send email     edit
I'll cast a vote for those metal-bodied Dobro/National "poorman's frypan" thingies.
Kerry Wood
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From: Tucson, Arizona, USA

posted 18 December 2003 01:50 PM     profile   send email     edit
I think this one is absolutely wild.
http://www.gbase.com/gearlist/guitar_picture.asp?guitar=507121
HowardR
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From: N.Y.C.,N.Y.

posted 18 December 2003 03:08 PM     profile   send email     edit
cast a vote for the aluminum frypans.....very clever Jeff..

[This message was edited by HowardR on 18 December 2003 at 06:48 PM.]

John Bechtel
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posted 20 December 2003 12:09 AM     profile   send email     edit
If you check my website, you'll see my favorite design. That's why I own it. http://community.webtv.net/KeoniNui/BigJohnBechtels

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Ian McLatchie
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From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

posted 20 December 2003 06:23 AM     profile   send email     edit
Aesthetically, I'm a much bigger fan of the classic guitar-shaped instruments than the asymmetrical styles, and of lap steels more than table steels. I'm lucky enough to own examples of what I think are the three great beauties of the pre-war era, namely a dark sunburst EH-150 with split-diamond peghead inlay, a Silver Hawaiian and a pair of bakelites, both with chrome plates, 1'1/2" pickup and no fret marker outlines (the addition of the white outlines and that ghastly pickup housing-tailpiece seriously damaged the bakelites' visual appeal, in my estimation). All three designs are so beautiful and so utterly distinctive that I'd be hard picked to choose a favorite, but in a pinch would probably take the bakelite.

I also really miss having a New Yorker anymore, particularly as the one I had was such a beautiful example of my favorite of the many variations Valco made of that instrument: ivory-colored top panels, shield logo and black metal fretboard with multi-colored Roman numeral markers. There were lots of other beautiful Valco instruments too, especially the early Dynamic with stairstep fretboard design and multi-colored markers, the Supro Airline and the National Triplex Chord Changer.

Thanks for posting the pictures of the Vega, Kerry. I haven't seen one of those in some time. Vega made several extremely beautiful steels, most fairly rare.

As for the three Yanuziello instruments Brad posted, I've had the chance to play all of those, and can attest that they're not only even more beautiful than the photos suggest, but wonderful sounding as well. Those are Joe's personal instruments and were all made well over a decade ago. He's made only a couple of laps since then, and I'm told they're even more beautiful than these.

Okay, so there are so many gorgeous non-pedal steels that one can go on forever proposing which is the fairest of all, but here's another question: what's the UGLIEST lap steel of all time? My vote goes to the Blue Star Lapmaster. Gawd, that thing's ugly!
http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/LM-PURP.htm


[This message was edited by Ian McLatchie on 20 December 2003 at 06:29 AM.]

Russ Young
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From: Seattle, Washington, USA

posted 20 December 2003 06:27 AM     profile   send email     edit
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My vote goes to the Blue Star. Gawd, that thing's ugly!"

I couldn't say it any better, Ian. Make that two votes for the Blue Star ...

[This message was edited by Russ Young on 20 December 2003 at 06:29 AM.]

Ian McLatchie
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From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

posted 21 December 2003 05:32 AM     profile   send email     edit
Thanks for joining me in this great campaign, Russ. The Lapmaster is actually a pretty good starter instrument, but I don't suppose good looks should have to boost the price. I mean, can they at least lose the industrial carpet in the tuner pan, if not the back and sides? Yuck! I look at this thing and I think of what Moms Mabley used to say about her husband: "He's so ugly he hurts my feelings."

Some other front runners in the homely contest include the brown-on-brown Harmony with stairstep body and built-in cord, and of course the incomparable Twang, the ultimate plank-with-a-pickup. That's quite literally what the Twang is, a 30 inch length of 1 by 8, as I recall, with control panel, bridge, pickup and nut set at various intervals and the fretboard floating like a piece of debris in the vast sea between them. For those who haven't had the pleasure to actually hold a Twang in their hands, there's a picture of one on page 136 of Lorene Ruymer's book.

[This message was edited by Ian McLatchie on 21 December 2003 at 05:33 AM.]

Jeff Au Hoy
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From: Honolulu, Hawai'i

posted 21 December 2003 12:01 PM     profile   send email     edit
And there are those (I suppose) that find the Blue Star Lapmaster the most beautiful steel they've ever laid eyes on.

Cruel world.

Mike D
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From: Phx, Az

posted 21 December 2003 03:58 PM     profile   send email     edit
Is it bad form to vote for your own stuff? (and non electric to boot) http://maricopaguitarco.com/Weissad.jpg

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